Big Brother 20

[Majingir]

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But yeah they do cast the same type of houseguests from season to season, but those archetypes are probably needed so whatever. I'm picking Rachel to win, but as long as the show is good, I don't care who wins.

Those types aren't needed, BB just wants to have them. Why can't it simply be "the 8-10 best men and 8-10 best women", simple as that.

We don't need to have most of the cast being in their 20s, with the typical casting roles like the jock, religious woman, superfan nerd, female model, good looking guy who isn't a model, the "older parent" (a 40 or 50 year old mom and/or dad), outcast girl, gay guy and so on.

Every season basically has all those roles. The fact that those roles happen to feature people who look similar as well is even more proof as to how specific they get on their casting. And it's a guarantee that in the cast introductions on the first episode of the season, you have people pointing out who they think looks hot. BB is in love with the "single and ready to mingle" line. Say that in your casting video while being an attractive person who fits the typical BB role, and you're guaranteed to move on in the casting process.

[l3ulvl]

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I always find it amusing how Maj remembers one season from another so easily (Survivor also). Season 7 was the best, 6 was so-so, season 9 sucked, etc. I can't remember one season from another. Even typing now, I have to think who even won last year. You must have a really good memory

I marvel at his memory, when he does his favorite season rankings I can't remember any of them. It's like my brain forgets almost everything as soon as the season ends

[Majingir]

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I marvel at his memory, when he does his favorite season rankings I can't remember any of them. It's like my brain forgets almost everything as soon as the season ends

Which is a good thing in some cases lol. At times I want to forget stuff just so that whenever I rewatch a season, it seems new/fun to watch. I've done that with Survivor and it makes watching so much better. I still know who won and most of the time who was with them in the finals, but I don't remember much of anything else, so each episode still seems new. In a weird way, it's like watching a season knowing for sure you'll love it, without knowing entirely what happens.


Speaking of past seasons, as they mentioned on the show, the audience was filled with past BB players. Lets see how many HGs people here can name:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgt2IyWX0AMzC9r.jpg

I think it's around 47 or so people on there. Of all those people, assuming I'm right on who they are, there's probably 9 or 10 I can't name (2 guys, the rest women). Surprised that many people we haven't seen in 10 or so years still look about the same, Keesha(BB10) especially (for those who don't know/remember, she's the blonde near the left side in blue)

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Is that Life Coach, Nicole Ritchie in disguise? She reminds me of her so much.

[p_rushing]

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Don't know if I can make it the whole season. Already too many people that have no chance of winning because they think they are smart, athletic, good at manipulating people, etc. Then add this stupid trending, just another way for production to keep players safe and punish ones they don't like.

Looks like this is going to be boring as the emotional players don't look like they will be able to keep their mouth shut. Smart players will just play safe in the background and just help create some drama that will set off the others.

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[Majingir]

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Don't know if I can make it the whole season. Already too many people that have no chance of winning because they think they are smart, athletic, good at manipulating people, etc. Then add this stupid trending, just another way for production to keep players safe and punish ones they don't like.

Looks like this is going to be boring as the emotional players don't look like they will be able to keep their mouth shut. Smart players will just play safe in the background and just help create some drama that will set off the others.

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You'll get similar gameplay with similar types of casts. The trending stuff seems stupid. Sure, fans are voting for certain people, but the questions themselves can steer you into certain directions.


If you ask "Who is the most annoying?", clearly nobody is gonna vote for someone who has barely been featured on TV. So that person won't get many votes. Meanwhile someone on TV alot who fans don't like will get all those votes. Another question I saw this week was "Which houesguest is the funniest". Again, if you weren't on TV, you won't get voted for in that category. If you got funny DRs AND they get shown on TV in that specific episode, people will vote you. Given that they have rewards/punishments for people finishing 1st or last in categories, you can have alot of leading questions impacting the game.

[Majingir]

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Can someone explain why Angela is so mad at Swaggy C? She told him that they both should just save "their 8"(meaning the 8 on the platform), meaning she said she won't be saving him if she won. At the end of the comp, he did tell her she's safe (despite not having to do so), BUT, that was before he knew he wasn't saving 8 individuals, he was saving 2 entry groups.

He told Angela she was safe, not Angela and 3 others. Not to mention he had to save his own group too.

Unless BB changed things up. Because Julie kept on mentioning that whoever wins gets to save 8 people including themselves. However, when Swaggy C had to make his decision, he had to choose 2 groups. So what if he just didn't choose his own group for some reason? I feel more like BB just changed up their own rules. Because how Julie worded it made it just seem like the winner automatically saves themselves and then chooses 7 individuals. If it wasn't automatic(and he could've chosen a group that wasn't his), then why mention the winner saves themself?

[p_rushing]

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Can someone explain why Angela is so mad at Swaggy C? She told him that they both should just save "their 8"(meaning the 8 on the platform), meaning she said she won't be saving him if she won. At the end of the comp, he did tell her she's safe (despite not having to do so), BUT, that was before he knew he wasn't saving 8 individuals, he was saving 2 entry groups.

He told Angela she was safe, not Angela and 3 others. Not to mention he had to save his own group too.

Unless BB changed things up. Because Julie kept on mentioning that whoever wins gets to save 8 people including themselves. However, when Swaggy C had to make his decision, he had to choose 2 groups. So what if he just didn't choose his own group for some reason? I feel more like BB just changed up their own rules. Because how Julie worded it made it just seem like the winner automatically saves themselves and then chooses 7 individuals. If it wasn't automatic(and he could've chosen a group that wasn't his), then why mention the winner saves themself?

Yeah it was weird. I wonder if they changed their minds after the plan was to keep everyone in the 8. They basically broke out as you would predict, so they could quickly lose their stereotype players. If you look at the 4 people groups, they mixed them up well.

So it makes sense to save 2 groups of 4 as they can keep a similar player safe. It doesn't appear like that was the original plan, but it was a good backup plan.

[JayhawkerStL]

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Heart was breaking for Sam last night. I haver to wonder if the BB fix was in to save her. I actually don't mind if that was the case, because this punishment nearly broke who is easily my wife and I's favorite player so far.

Overall, we are pretty meh about the cast this season. Of course, that is often the case, but as stuff plays out you begin to find your peeps. I think the season has a chance to be decent.

Swaggy is looking more and more like a guy that will go early, like the Messiah. The dude seems to have absolutely zero empathy and sympathy for others. He is crazily self-centered. Kinda disappointed that he didn't get the crap app.

I have no idea why Fessy did, but maybe he lacks as much of a social network following? I predicted that the weird party girl was going to be the crap app recipient. It may just be me, but I she rubs me all the wrong ways. She is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

Steve, the former cop, is weak. He doesn't understand the game, or just how out of touch he really is from everyone else. I think he believes his experience as an undercover cop helps, that dude was never going to parties with kids like these.

[l3ulvl]

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I figured the Fessy guy got the crap app because no one knows who he is so no one ever talks about him. I mean the guy is pretty much never on the screen so I understand not much social chatter about him. Gotta say, him getting a ham punishment while being muslim is rough and I hope they find a way to change that up, but it's a little odd he chose that one in the first place. I understand he wasn't aware of what the punishment would actually be, but it was an image of a pig so maybe avoid that one.


Oh and I felt bad for Sam too, she was totally breaking down. She should do voice work for cartoons or something, she sounds so cute

[Majingir]

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Not like anything about Swaggy is surprising. Another one of those typical BB roles. That overconfident guy who'll provide DRs where you're either laughing with him, or at him. He thinks he's in control, a big manipulator, and then gets voted out early on.

The part I'm surprised about is who got both those apps.

The questions this week were:

Which Houseguest is most entertaining to watch?
Which Houseguest is annoying you the most?
Which Houseguest’s gameplay is most fun to watch?
Which Houseguest is the funniest?
Which Houseguest has you screaming at the television?

From all that, who would you think gets the most and least mentions here? I fully expected Swaggy C to be the top trend. They even edited it to make it seem like he was the one who'd get the app, so clearly they knew so many people were voting him. I can't imagine people voting Sam here. And Faysal getting least mentionings I guess makes sense. Don't expect people to be voting for him in any of these categories, though same argument could be made for others as well. He has over 10,000 instagram followers (more than most houseguests). Someone like Steve doesn't have any kind of social following, so how does he get more votes?

Lets just say BB is "scripted reality" lol.

[p_rushing]

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Not like anything about Swaggy is surprising. Another one of those typical BB roles. That overconfident guy who'll provide DRs where you're either laughing with him, or at him. He thinks he's in control, a big manipulator, and then gets voted out early on.

The part I'm surprised about is who got both those apps.

The questions this week were:
From all that, who would you think gets the most and least mentions here? I fully expected Swaggy C to be the top trend. They even edited it to make it seem like he was the one who'd get the app, so clearly they knew so many people were voting him. I can't imagine people voting Sam here. And Faysal getting least mentionings I guess makes sense. Don't expect people to be voting for him in any of these categories, though same argument could be made for others as well. He has over 10,000 instagram followers (more than most houseguests). Someone like Steve doesn't have any kind of social following, so how does he get more votes?

Lets just say BB is "scripted reality" lol.

Yeah they don't even release vote counts, ranking, etc. It's stupid to let outside people interfere with the game, it goes against the game and social experiment.

I'd be fine letting the public vote on competitions for the apps, 1st place gets it, last place gets it. They still have to compete so it isn't handed to them and interference from production.

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[JayhawkerStL]

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Yeah they don't even release vote counts, ranking, etc. It's stupid to let outside people interfere with the game, it goes against the game and social experiment.

I'd be fine letting the public vote on competitions for the apps, 1st place gets it, last place gets it. They still have to compete so it isn't handed to them and interference from production.

In the first season, the public voted on all evictions. All the HOH did was nominate. The audience influencing the show is the original premise.

[Majingir]

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In the first season, the public voted on all evictions. All the HOH did was nominate. The audience influencing the show is the original premise.

You also barely had internet back then for things like message boards. And obviously no social media. Show was also 70 episodes, and heavily criticized. Very little about the show in S1 is similar to BB afterwards. That's why I always consider BB1 to be in a completely different "era" than any other. S2 and 3 is when the BB we know started to take shape with HOH, Alliances, Veto and so on.

[p_rushing]

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In the first season, the public voted on all evictions. All the HOH did was nominate. The audience influencing the show is the original premise.

You also barely had internet back then for things like message boards. And obviously no social media. Show was also 70 episodes, and heavily criticized. Very little about the show in S1 is similar to BB afterwards. That's why I always consider BB1 to be in a completely different "era" than any other. S2 and 3 is when the BB we know started to take shape with HOH, Alliances, Veto and so on.

Those were also the rules ahead of time, not changing all the time. I get wanting twists, but stop doing it with outsiders making the choice.

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