Big Brother 20

**l3ulvl** · 08-08-2018, 05:01 PM

Re: Big Brother 20

I mean more like digging up the lives of the houseguests outside the show, like finding their real occupations or past relationships or whatever. I'm all for being interested in the 24/7 stuff of the show, but going through their lives outside show annoys me a little.

I didn't read the spoilers but I'm wondering if it's the thing my gossip girl friend messaged me the other day

**Majingir** · 08-08-2018, 05:20 PM

Re: Big Brother 20

Originally posted by Marino

Guys, I am a live feeder for this show, and I won't spoil anything, but OMG tomorrow's episode is going to be crazy.

I've (unintentionally) had the veto ceremony result spoiled(but not who won it)) but nothing else, so from that alone I know it'll be a crazy episode. Lets hope they don't waste an entire segment on something stupid again. We only get 40 minutes of stuff an episode, don't waste 5-10 minutes on something that didn't happen in the house.

Originally posted by l3ulvl

I mean more like digging up the lives of the houseguests outside the show, like finding their real occupations or past relationships or whatever. I'm all for being interested in the 24/7 stuff of the show, but going through their lives outside show annoys me a little.

You'll be surprised how far people go. You think this celebrity social media digging is something, imagine that happening to normal people. Because that's what happens to HGs. Hardcore BB fans do crazy amount of digging into peoples lives. They'll find mugshots, old tweets, try seeing if the HG is a user on any Big Brother forum and so on. Probably more digging done by BB fans than BB casting people.

That part is definitely extreme. People treat BB and Survivor people like celebrities in a bad way. If you're a celebrity, you at least understand the cons of fame and probably have people to help you deal with fans. A reality show person is just a regular person whose name just becomes public and open to be attacked by anyone, and whose family can be tracked by crazy people too.

**p_rushing** · 08-08-2018, 06:31 PM

Re: Big Brother 20

Originally posted by l3ulvl

I mean more like digging up the lives of the houseguests outside the show, like finding their real occupations or past relationships or whatever. I'm all for being interested in the 24/7 stuff of the show, but going through their lives outside show annoys me a little.

I didn't read the spoilers but I'm wondering if it's the thing my gossip girl friend messaged me the other day

Generally and in the beginning it went overboard. At this point though, BB has caused this because of all the recruiting they do. You have too many people wanting to use this to get famous. You have BB lying to the audience about jobs, not saying who actually applied, etc.

I didn't care, but as the production interference and preference has gotten so bad, it has made me care. I don't do any research on my own, but I do read what people have found.

**Majingir** · 08-08-2018, 06:40 PM

Re: Big Brother 20

Originally posted by p_rushing

Generally and in the beginning it went overboard. At this point though, BB has caused this because of all the recruiting they do. You have too many people wanting to use this to get famous. You have BB lying to the audience about jobs, not saying who actually applied, etc.

I didn't care, but as the production interference and preference has gotten so bad, it has made me care. I don't do any research on my own, but I do read what people have found.

That's part of it too. By recruiting, you're also getting people who aren't in it to play and win the game. People literally admitted on the feeds last year that they just want to make jury, and that they have no problem finishing 2nd to Paul.

It's easier for Survivor to weed out these people because who wants to live on an island with bugs,rats,little food? If you want to be on Survivor, you'll put up with it, and if you don't, then you'll suffer and possibly quit. BB, it's a paid vacation where you don't have to pay for food or anything.

As I mentioned, Survivor got rid of their casting person, so if BB can as well, we'd have different casing process altogether. No instagram recruits!

Speaking of production interference, it might've happened in the Hackers comp(as mentioned by Jokers https://twitter.com/JokersBBUpdates/...67497336528896)

**Majingir** · 08-09-2018, 12:06 AM

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Everything was what I expected after finding out about the veto decision. I guess tomorrow is a double eviction then lol.

Talk about the invisible edit all people want, but Angela has quietly had the 2nd best game so far. Lets not forget that in week 1, she won the first part of the HOH comp and almost won HOH that week. Despite that, she flew so far under the radar in week 2-5, and the moment Rachel left the house and Angelas goodbye message aired, she's completely turned around and dominated, going full villain mode in the process (her goodbye message to Rachel, and then the veto speech to the "hacker").

I'm still confused by the veto. If Scottie traded with Angela, she gets 5k, Tyler trades with Scottie, saves himself, and that's it. Instead, Angela wants the veto, Scottie keeps the 5k, Tyler trades with Brett, and Angela saves Tyler....Doesn't that raise more suspicion?

And here is the big moment that Marino mentioned(it for sure gets shown tomorrow, but probably not in its entirety. This video as long as it's up on youtube is the big part)

Spoiler

**p_rushing** · 08-09-2018, 02:20 AM

Re: Big Brother 20

The real Angela is finally coming out. She shut up for the most part since her talking to by production.

As good as the season has been, most of them are crazy.

I was hoping Angela would start realizing Tyler needs to go soon, but she just doesn't see it.

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**l3ulvl** · 08-09-2018, 03:57 AM

Re: Big Brother 20

I can't take Angela serious when she has this supposedly scathing speech about knowing who the hacker was from day 1, while being wrong the whole time, and chastising Bayleigh erroneously

**IlliniM1ke** · 08-09-2018, 09:37 AM

Re: Big Brother 20

Originally posted by l3ulvl

I can't take Angela serious when she has this supposedly scathing speech about knowing who the hacker was from day 1, while being wrong the whole time, and chastising Bayleigh erroneously

She didn't really care who the hacker was, yeah they assumed it was Bayleigh but Bayleigh was 100% going on the block either way, the hacker just gave her the excuse of paranoia to put her up on the block rather than flat out saying the promise she wasn't a target earlier in the week was a lie.

**Majingir** · 08-09-2018, 10:11 AM

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It's easy for us to judge since we knew who it was but lets be fair, at the time, NOBODY knew who the hacker was. Haleigh didn't even tell anyone in her alliance.

All Angela had to go on is that Tyler told Bayleigh that Scottie was his closest friend in the game. Tyler voted the opposite of what she wanted, and what happens, Scottie gets pulled and Tyler is his replacement. And then Angela and Kaycee suggest to Bayleigh that Kaycee should be the person the hacker chooses to play in the veto. What happens...the hacker chooses Kaycee to play.

Speaking of which, does Bayleigh have a right to be mad? Her biggest argument is that Tyler said to put up Angela. What seems to be lost in all of this is that Tyler never told her to put up Angela. Bayleigh said Angela was someone she'd consider putting up, so Tyler basically just said what Bayleigh said back to Bayleigh just to confirm that. He never told her to put up Angela, or wanted her up, he was playing Bayleigh and trying to trick her.

Similarly with Bayleigh being mad about going up. Sure, Angela might've told her that she's safe, but what's wrong with that? Bayleigh has a power literally made for a situation in which the app holder will use it if they don't feel safe. What does she expect, Angela to be like "I know you have a power to replace my nominations, so just letting you know, you might go up, but don't use your power to save yourself."

**JayhawkerStL** · 08-09-2018, 11:13 AM

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I think Tyler could have done more to calm Bay down, instead of agitating her. He's not in the wrong, but when he is sitting pretty, and Bay is on the block, he doesn't have to rub it in.

I think what gets lost on us watching is how social the game really is. I mean, it is really just an elaborate poker game, where you intent is to knock everyone else out. to do that, you show your hand when you can, to show you are to be trusted. But that just sets up the bluff. But this is also real day to day living, and the pressure that every moment of everyday you are playing a game, and you are being lied to, and are expected to lie and hide information can really screw with your head.

Bay has played a horrible game because she is completely unable to view the game through anyone else's eyes. My wife and I were laughing last night because during the Veto competition, the it transported should have created massive red flags for Bay and everyone on that side of the house. That particular style of reward and punishment style is so good at revealing alliances and true motives, but she ignored all the signs.

She also told Rachel everything about her power, which was asinine. Bay thinks that builds trust. Instead, that is like a poker player showing his cards, you seeing the obvious weakness in their hand, and then bluffing that you have a better hand. Why would she not think that rachel would tell Angela? She handed Angela the incentive and the process in which to get Bay out before she could use her power.

Everything about Bay's game is terrible. Her relationship with Swaggy, the way she treated her own alliance, the diva crap, and her inability to understand that other people want to win as much as she does. Her meltdown was just emblematic of all of her poor gameplay.

But she's in the noose already. Tyler had no problem lying to her to make sure she left herself vulnerable, which was smart gameplay. He could lie to her now, just to ease some of the very real pain she is feeling. She may have made her bed, but she's just human dealing with a massively stressful situation. He doesn't need to tell her she's safe, but he could have tried apologizing for the manner in which he got her on the block. No, it's not that he did anything wrong, but it could keep her from having to be in this much pain. It's basic empathy.

And I don't think Angela's villain mode has come off well, at all. I also don't think it will serve her well going forward. It's not any different than Sam's sudden need to morally judge everyone else in the house. It just makes them easier to target and get out because their actions makes it easier to get the numbers.

But watching Hay last night, all excited for how dumb Tyler was, without ever thinking, "Hey, what if Angela and Tyler are playing us?" Of course, because Bay was too dumb and never told anyone in her own alliance that she had the power, it set Hayleigh up. And Bay revealing the power to Tyler and Rachel just sealed her fate.

And with Rachel, she ended up doing L6 a favor, because Rachel flipped out and became the obvious weak link for L6. They lost a member, but it still felt like they got a win that week.

Basically, Tyler, Angela, and Kaycee understand the game, and are just making solid, smart moves. The other side is so oblivious. I've never seen one alliance get blindsided four times in a row. Sure, a couple of times it was between two L6 members, but they still could not get the person the wanted out. After four weeks, you would think they would get a clue.

**Majingir** · 08-09-2018, 05:05 PM

Re: Big Brother 20

Tonight's HOH comp will be

Spoiler

**Majingir** · 08-09-2018, 11:29 PM

Re: Big Brother 20

Originally posted by Majingir

Speaking of production interference, it might've happened in the Hackers comp(as mentioned by Jokers https://twitter.com/JokersBBUpdates/...67497336528896)

Seeing who won this weeks HOH, just makes you wonder.....

Bayleighs interview was interesting. The way she worded things when talking about her relationship with Swaggy (and one comment to Julie, which sounded like Bayleigh was going "Come on Julie, you know what REALLY happening"), perhaps those rumors are true. And turns out Sams vote to keep Bayleigh was her being mad at BB (sounds like Sam wants to quit. She didn't even want to vote right before live show began, sounds like BB talked her into not quitting).

Sucks Haleigh won the HOH comp. The 1 person who would for sure want Tyler out is now in power the week after her plan to get him out with the Hacker twist failed. Tyler now is probably like:

His power really sucks now. Sams power 99% guaranteed you'd return. Bayleighs power replaces 2 nominees, Tylers power saves him for 1 CEREMONY. Meaning if he uses it at nominations, he could still be put up in hacker nominee, or veto. If I were him, I'd save it for veto. Haleigh wouldn't want to give him an extra chance to play, and nobody knows Tyler has any power.

**l3ulvl** · 08-10-2018, 12:33 AM

Re: Big Brother 20

You guys built this up too much lol, I was expecting way worse

**Majingir** · 08-10-2018, 12:43 AM

Re: Big Brother 20

Originally posted by l3ulvl

You guys built this up too much lol, I was expecting way worse

Bayleigh went crazier in the living room. But still, has anyone ever blown up as much as Bayleigh did in that fight? Literally screamed so much her mouth was bleeding. And when was last time you can think of a BB fight like this?

It's a house meeting that impacts future week(s) in this season too.

**p_rushing** · 08-10-2018, 12:57 AM

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The hacker comp last week was basically an easier version of the HOH comp. The same person won. This one did allow you to guess though.

Not sure what is going to happen, but she should put Tyler and Angela up. Then you have Brett, JC, and Kaycee to put up.

About Sam, spoiled as wasn't shown

Spoiler

This season is on the way down and it is probably going to end terribly. There are very few people left playing the game. I would say Hayleigh, Angela, and Tyler. Maybe Scottie. Everyone else is just floating or just in an alliance.

Julie says congratulations on making jury. They need to stop that being a goal and reward.

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