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  • daflyboys
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 18238

    #1

    Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

    Once again Hollywood and the entertainment industry seem to simply be trying to cash in on what was once famous and could be considered infamous.

    Star-Studded 'All in the Family,' 'The Jeffersons' Live Event Set at ABC

    I can't wait for this to just fail miserably. Leave the classics alone.
  • TheMatrix31
    RF
    • Jul 2002
    • 52908

    #2
    Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

    lol as if any of that **** would fly today.

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

      Originally posted by TheMatrix31
      lol as if any of that **** would fly today.
      That **** almost didn't fly back then too. This is Hollywood where they don't like to rock the boat AT ALL. In the case of Archie Bunker I daresay just like back then, there are quite a few Archie Bunkers sitting around in America. It's why he became such a cult character. The character was both a hero to some and a note perfect depiction of the "ugly American" to others.


      The Jeffersons started off as a bit political but a lot of that dissipated and it became more of a social commentary show in terms of race relations and such so an adaptation of that sitcom is not such a crazy idea.


      As for this event, I give it a pass because Norman Lear is involved in it. If this was something done without Lear then i'd be of the same opinion as daflyboys. This is just a one off event and one that I will be tuning into.
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      • daflyboys
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        • May 2003
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        #4
        Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

        Ever consider that Lear might be selling out?

        Saddest thing about the Jeffersons was that Mike Evans didn't stay on as Lionel. I think he continued writing until his early death. Heard he had a lot of personal problems. His interchanges with Archie in the original series were classics.

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        (you can't recreate this...and it's foolish to try)

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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #5
          Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

          Originally posted by daflyboys
          Ever consider that Lear might be selling out?
          Maybe to a degree but it's people that Lear that actually tried to be thought provoking while being humorous as well. The world could use more Norman Lears and Susan Harris' IMO. Both of them were able to bring some critical issues to the table while still putting out funny television.


          As for Lear, it's not like he hasn't tried to bring an AITF type of thing on TV after the fact. In the '90s he tried with 704 Hauser in 1994 which was set in the Bunker house with a black family. They basically tried to recapture the Archie Bunker model but flipping it with John Amos playing the patriarch of a black working class democratic family with a conservative son and his white, jewish girlfriend. I remember show being even MORE political than AITF but it didn't pan out.
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          • daflyboys
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            • May 2003
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            #6
            Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

            Originally posted by SPTO
            Maybe to a degree but it's people that Lear that actually tried to be thought provoking while being humorous as well. The world could use more Norman Lears and Susan Harris' IMO. Both of them were able to bring some critical issues to the table while still putting out funny television.


            As for Lear, it's not like he hasn't tried to bring an AITF type of thing on TV after the fact. In the '90s he tried with 704 Hauser in 1994 which was set in the Bunker house with a black family. They basically tried to recapture the Archie Bunker model but flipping it with John Amos playing the patriarch of a black working class democratic family with a conservative son and his white, jewish girlfriend. I remember show being even MORE political than AITF but it didn't pan out.
            I get that. You created something great. You don't want it to end. So you look for the proper spinoff. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

            But to completely clone something that essentially set a trend and paved a way sounds like a sell out to me.

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #7
              Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

              Originally posted by daflyboys

              But to completely clone something that essentially set a trend and paved a way sounds like a sell out to me.
              I hear you on that. I won't be in town when the special airs but I will let you know what I think of it when I come back if you're interested.
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              • daflyboys
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                • May 2003
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                #8
                Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                I'm gonna try to champion through the 1st half of it. I know I'm going in tainted, but this is the groundwork they're setting. The bar is just too high.

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                • JayBee74
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 22989

                  #9
                  Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  They basically tried to recapture the Archie Bunker model but flipping it with John Amos playing the patriarch of a black working class democratic family with a conservative son and his white, jewish girlfriend. I remember show being even MORE political than AITF but it didn't pan out.
                  What show was that? I remember Amos being fired because he complained about Good Times not dealing with more serious topics in "a comedic way" and how the series devolved into "JJ wearing his chicken hat and saying "DYNAMITE!! every third page." (referencing the script).

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #10
                    Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                    Originally posted by JayBee74
                    What show was that? I remember Amos being fired because he complained about Good Times not dealing with more serious topics in "a comedic way" and how the series devolved into "JJ wearing his chicken hat and saying "DYNAMITE!! every third page." (referencing the script).
                    Like I said, it was called 704 Hauser. The show only made it to 6 episodes.
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                    • Caulfield
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                      • Apr 2011
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                      #11
                      Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                      If they wanted to do something special with these two shows , they should have written a really good script for a feature length motion picture for the big screen and combined them both into one big movie
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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                        Who the **** asked for a Jeffersons Remake?
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #13
                          Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          Who the **** asked for a Jeffersons Remake?
                          could be worse , they could have went with Everybody Loves Raymond & King of Queens lol
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                          • daflyboys
                            Banned
                            • May 2003
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                            #14
                            Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                            Originally posted by Caulfield
                            could be worse , they could have went with Everybody Loves Raymond & King of Queens lol
                            What? Those were practically released yesterday!!

                            Now if they try to remake "The Dick Van **** Show" ..... you know they're reachin'.

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                            • SmashMan
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 9716

                              #15
                              Re: Remakes of All In The Family and The Jeffersons

                              Current actors just reenacting classic episodes? So it's a high school play, basically.

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