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  • Majingir
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    • Apr 2005
    • 47765

    #151
    Re: Big Brother 21

    The veto is all that matters. Nicole or Cliff better win or else voting out Tommy will go down as one of stupidest moves ever.

    I wouldn't say Michie is anything like Russell. Not sure about best comparison, but he seems to be as hated as Paul was in bb19. Paul also played the best game his season, but it was still horrible to see how he acted and how people just gave him his way all the time.

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    • p_rushing
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 14514

      #152
      Re: Big Brother 21

      Originally posted by Majingir
      The veto is all that matters. Nicole or Cliff better win or else voting out Tommy will go down as one of stupidest moves ever.

      I wouldn't say Michie is anything like Russell. Not sure about best comparison, but he seems to be as hated as Paul was in bb19. Paul also played the best game his season, but it was still horrible to see how he acted and how people just gave him his way all the time.
      They should have gotten Holly out. Only 1 person votes and whoever wins the veto controls it. Now they only have a 50% chance of winning veto if everyone has an even chance.

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      • Majingir
        Moderator
        • Apr 2005
        • 47765

        #153
        Re: Big Brother 21

        Originally posted by p_rushing
        They should have gotten Holly out. Only 1 person votes and whoever wins the veto controls it. Now they only have a 50% chance of winning veto if everyone has an even chance.
        Exactly. That's what I'm saying.

        Keep Holly, on paper it's exactly a 50% chance(no more, no less) that Cliff and Nicole end up in f3 together.

        Keep Tommy, it's a 50% chance AT WORST that Cliff and Nicole end up in f3 together.

        Either of those 2 vs Michie or Holly in f2 will lose for sure.


        The way things have gone, just watch Cliff or Nicole win veto, let Michie or Holly end up casting the deciding vote and look stupid (like we saw on bb14)
        Last edited by Majingir; 09-13-2019, 04:04 PM.

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        • l3ulvl
          Hall Of Fame
          • Dec 2009
          • 17264

          #154
          Re: Big Brother 21

          A lot of people gave up on this season early, but down the stretch it's actually been really good
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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47765

            #155
            Re: Big Brother 21

            Feel bad for Tommy during the house meeting. I know people didnt like him because they felt his DRs were over the top, and they hated Christie and then him by association, but I liked him(although I'll admit, his speech to Holly during the fight sounded like some scripted acting delivery).

            Nice that Nicole won HOH, but obviously veto is all that matters. That will determine if voting out Tommy was stupidest move or not.

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            • l3ulvl
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2009
              • 17264

              #156
              Re: Big Brother 21

              Originally posted by Majingir
              Feel bad for Tommy during the house meeting. I know people didnt like him because they felt his DRs were over the top, and they hated Christie and then him by association, but I liked him(although I'll admit, his speech to Holly during the fight sounded like some scripted acting delivery).

              Nice that Nicole won HOH, but obviously veto is all that matters. That will determine if voting out Tommy was stupidest move or not.
              This was such a better Sunday episode than we usually get at the end. The whole drama with Michie tip toe-ing around and hearing Tommy's plea to Cliff and Nicole, then using it against them was brilliant. Diabolical, but brilliant. I felt really bad for Tommy during that whole scene, Michie is a tremendous liar, and he knows it, he even stepped over Holly so she wouldn't talk and screw up his lies.

              I wonder if this is gonna be bitter jury territory or not, but Michie, as unlikeable as he is, deserves it at this point.

              Also, Nicole was wise to the lie, she read it correctly, it wasn't until Cliff convinced her to shift her vote that she finally waivered.

              That was one of my favorite episodes of BB in awhile, not just this season, but for the past few years.

              And that doesn't even account for Holly making the deal to throw it like Tommy did, then realizing "I can win this", but Michie convincing her to drop anyway. That would've been amazing if Holly heel turned and hung on to win

              like I mentioned in a previous post, a slow season got really good at the end
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47765

                #157
                Re: Big Brother 21

                Cliff has such horrible strategies. He blew everything for his alliance. Cliffs Angel's could've been better, him and Nicole and Tommy could've been f3.

                Instead he let's Michie and Holly know they're voting Holly out, end up keeping her, makes a f2 deal with Michie, only to tell Michie he's not honoring that deal, and then wants to give Holly permission to not throw veto if she keeps him if she wins.

                Been a slow build but sadly we've come to the end of the downhill spiral of Cliff. Nicole better win in f2, but I doubt she would if she gets there, which probably doesn't happen either.

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                • l3ulvl
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 17264

                  #158
                  Re: Big Brother 21

                  Originally posted by Majingir
                  Cliff has such horrible strategies. He blew everything for his alliance. Cliffs Angel's could've been better, him and Nicole and Tommy could've been f3.

                  Instead he let's Michie and Holly know they're voting Holly out, end up keeping her, makes a f2 deal with Michie, only to tell Michie he's not honoring that deal, and then wants to give Holly permission to not throw veto if she keeps him if she wins.

                  Been a slow build but sadly we've come to the end of the downhill spiral of Cliff. Nicole better win in f2, but I doubt she would if she gets there, which probably doesn't happen either.
                  Yeah Cliff completely fell apart, he thought he was setting himself up perfectly by making final deals with everyone, like no matter what he was gold. He really self destructed at the end. He's a likable guy but totally blew it. And it sucks for Nicole, because she trusted him, and allowed him to sway her away from voting Holly out, because he trusts Michie's word

                  Then Michie, who won again (shocker) and then won again (shocker), seems pretty unlikable but also totally deserving of winning.

                  Keeping Holly over Tommy was a game losing decision for Nicole, barring a miracle
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                  • JayhawkerStL
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 3644

                    #159
                    Re: Big Brother 21

                    I’m glad Cliff is going home. **** this season.

                    Hoping Nicole pulls this out, but I would rather Miche win than that doddering fool. Bragging about what he could get people that would promise anything to agree to?

                    The best players understand that at this late stage of the game, starting at Final Five, all that matters is winning and acting in your own best interest. Nicole saw it, explained it, and it was clear that regardless of who was lying, Taking Tommy was 100% the decision. There is a reason duos are targeted, and it is exactly what Nicole faces now. Had they kept Tommy, a Tommy or Miche win in veto is at least 50% they don’t automatically take each other. Miche and Holly do.

                    Just like Cliff and Nicole realized the benefit of going back on their deal, everyone does that. Why would anyone just tank their game because of a promise, in a game that requires deception. What Cliff expected from Holly was ridiculous.

                    Just a terrible ending to a terrible season. The *******s won, not just because they played better (no matter how gross of a person Miche is, his gameplay is among the best ever), but because Cliff took their position of advantage that Nicole’s wins gave them and handed that advantage back to the showmance.

                    Cliff deserves a hard kick to the junk from Nicole.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47765

                      #160
                      Re: Big Brother 21

                      Biggest surprise of this episode, they actually showed a producer asking a question (to Nick in jury house)! Talk about breaking the 4th wall.

                      Kat and Nick though.....

                      Just give her Brett already and let her play a season without thinking about hooking up.

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                      • l3ulvl
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 17264

                        #161
                        Re: Big Brother 21

                        Originally posted by Majingir
                        Biggest surprise of this episode, they actually showed a producer asking a question (to Nick in jury house)! Talk about breaking the 4th wall.

                        Kat and Nick though.....

                        Just give her Brett already and let her play a season without thinking about hooking up.
                        Yeah that was odd, supposedly Nick was so smitten with Bella, and yet he's hooking up with Kat in the jury house? Yikes
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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #162
                          Re: Big Brother 21

                          Originally posted by l3ulvl
                          Yeah that was odd, supposedly Nick was so smitten with Bella, and yet he's hooking up with Kat in the jury house? Yikes
                          Nick has tried to hook up with all the women except Jess, Holly (Jackson was already there), and maybe Nicole. Then add Tommy and that stuff crossed the line big time as he didn't want it.

                          Bella already said they were done.

                          I think Nick was one of the Love Island rejects.

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                          • l3ulvl
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 17264

                            #163
                            Re: Big Brother 21

                            Originally posted by p_rushing
                            Nick has tried to hook up with all the women except Jess, Holly (Jackson was already there), and maybe Nicole. Then add Tommy and that stuff crossed the line big time as he didn't want it.

                            Bella already said they were done.

                            I think Nick was one of the Love Island rejects.

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                            Yeah based on the caliber of dudes picked for Love Island I can easily see him being rejected

                            edit: not to insult him but it seemed like they wanted guys who spent 5 hours a day in the gym
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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47765

                              #164
                              Re: Big Brother 21

                              I'm sure theres a few people on this cast who were love Island rejects.

                              As much as I like her, I think Kat was one of them.

                              Wouldn't be surprised if Holly was too.

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                              • Majingir
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 47765

                                #165
                                Re: Big Brother 21

                                That BB20 interview seemed rushed and edited. For all the hype Julie gave on Thursday, they did this segment in 3 minutes!

                                I guess this season sucked so bad that they didn't even want Michie or Holly doing the traditional BB scripted season reflection they always have for the final 3?

                                Longshot, but would be nice if on Wednesday Julie announces the winter BB is all star season.

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