The Irishman (Netflix Film)

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Lets look at some previous Scorsese movies (according to never wrong Wikipedia):

• The Aviator: budget of 148M adjusted for inflation, made 288M afi.
• Hugo: budget of 183M afi, made 212M afi.
• The Wolf of Wall Street: budget of 110M afi, made 433M afi.
• Silence: budget (40-50M), made 23M.
• The Irishman budget (160M).

Like Blzer alluded to, usually these budget figures do not include the marketing budget which can run up to 100M.

160M is lot of money, unless it is one of those big tent poles films the only director, that quickly comes to mind, that consistently gets that kind of budget is Christopher Nolan and his movies always turn a hefty profit.

So I guess I don't blame the studios? But at the same time, Scorsese has never been about profit, but about prestige.

Much respect to Netflix for putting their money up and they will (probably) get their prestige when The Irishman gets nominated for 10 Oscars or whatever. They will also (probably) claim that the movie was a hit regarding keeping/bringing in new subscribers but that's murkier since we don't get to look closely at those numbers.

I'm just glad this movie got made, Marty is 77 but looks older so I just try to enjoy each film as if is the last one.

[Blzer]

Re: The Irishman (Netflix Film)

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-irishman-us-viewership-data-on-netflix-nielsen-2019-12

About 3.9 million unique US viewers tuned in to watch Martin Scorsese's new Netflix crime drama on its first day on the service, November 27, with an average minute audience — the average number of viewers at any given minute — of 2.6 million viewers, according to Nielsen.

But just 750,000 viewers, or 18%, actually completed the movie on its first day.

That might sound like a low number, but it's on par with Netflix's hit thriller "Bird Box" (18%) and higher than its "Breaking Bad" movie, "El Camino" (11%), which are both two hours long.

According to Nielsen, 17.1 million unique viewers in the US watched "The Irishman" over its first five days, from November 27 to December 1.

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I really liked it.

I know the vogue thing is to trash it for the length, or the CGI makeup technique, or...whatever. But, this was a really good movie. My only regret is that Joe Pesci was so subdued in his role that he didn't even repeatedly stab someone in the neck with a pen. Too bad for that.

[KG]

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I really liked it.

I know the vogue thing is to trash it for the length, or the CGI makeup technique, or...whatever. But, this was a really good movie. My only regret is that Joe Pesci was so subdued in his role that he didn't even repeatedly stab someone in the neck with a pen. Too bad for that.

Yeah during the behind the scenes Scorsese talked about how Deniro and Pesci’s roles were reversed from what we’re accustomed to seeing.

I actually was a little bit sad at the end. Not for the story but for the fact that it made me realize how old these guys are now and how the gangster genre is losing their golden generation.


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So what’s everyone’s thoughts on the Hoffa murder in this movie? There has been a ton of people that have came out and said there is no way that this is how he was killed. Apparently in the book the movie is based on. They say this is possibly how Hoffa was killed.
This link below is just one of a bunch that disputes the book and movie.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/martin-scorseses-the-irishman-is-a-big-lie-heres-what-really-happened-to-jimmy-hoffa

[JayBee74]

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So what’s everyone’s thoughts on the Hoffa murder in this movie? There has been a ton of people that have came out and said there is no way that this is how he was killed. Apparently in the book the movie is based on. They say this is possibly how Hoffa was killed.
This link below is just one of a bunch that disputes the book and movie.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/martin...to-jimmy-hoffa

I didn't really care about how or who was responsible for Hoffa's murder because it's altogether unprovable. If you want to take Sheeran's (De Niro) word for it which is the basis for the movie that's fine but I would give it about a 2% chance of happening the way he described it. The more important point is why Hoffa was killed-despite being well insulated by key mob friends his massive ego and delusions were ultimately his downfall.

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I didn't really care about how or who was responsible for Hoffa's murder because it's altogether unprovable. If you want to take Sheeran's (De Niro) word for it which is the basis for the movie that's fine but I would give it about a 2% chance of happening the way he described it. The more important point is why Hoffa was killed-despite being well insulated by key mob friends his massive ego and delusions were ultimately his downfall.

Same, I could care less about how he died.

Props to Pacino though, he acted his a** off which is extremely rare for him these days.

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The Irishman (Netflix Film)

Ok we are going to watch the flick this week. Been putting it off long enough. Will share my thoughts afterwards.


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[JayBee74]

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Same, I could care less about how he died.

Props to Pacino though, he acted his a** off which is extremely rare for him these days.

LOL, can't comment on Pacino-haven't really seen him in anything recent except this.

[l3ulvl]

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Liked it, didn't love it. Great to see all the old dudes back together again, but trying to have them perform action scenes was cringe worthy.

Spoiler

de niro threw a guy through glass and the glass shattered before the body got there

the after show special was also weird as they acted like it was some revolutionary production, although I will admit it was cool to hear the roundtable discussion

[JayBee74]

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LOL, can't comment on Pacino-haven't really seen him in anything recent except this.

Oops-I take that back. How could I forget? He was great in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Great rapport with Dicaprio.