Gamespot: PS3 specs vs X360 specs

[Tha_Kid]

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ummm... I know at first they said that best-selling xbox games would be compatible, but that was just what they had acheived at that point. Xbox 360 will be completely backwards compatible with xbox games...

[Lintyfresh85]

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I would like some links for that...I've only seen the very top games will be compatable...

[luv_mist]

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Still nobody knows how to answer my questions? I am yearning for the knowledge and wisdom of electronics and technology. Someone help me out please. Thanks.

The fact you have lasted this long on these forums is amazing.... Time to put someone on the ignore list....

Ironically, the fact that you'd think I wouldn't be on these boards for "this long" amazes me. Since when has it been against board rules to speak my mind in a respectful manner? It's cool that you want to ignore me. I won't do it to you because I respect your words enough to care AND respond to them. For those others who are a little more inclined to make friends, feel free to speak. I'm all screen

[Flawless]

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1. Is the graphics core clock speed in any way related to the cell processor on the PS3? What does that 550 MHz mean or tell us compared to the 500 MHz from the 360's standpoint?

No. Minor advantage for PS3, but will nVidia meet this target, as the GPU for the Xbox went from 300 MHz to 233 MHz.

2. What does the embedded video memory do exactly? Will the absense of the EVM in the PS3 (for now since they're holding a few numbers/spec?) do something to hurt their performance compared to the 360?

Acts as the framebuffer, but is different than ordinary eDRAM. From hardocp article - It can provide 4X Multisampling Antialiasing at or above 1280x720 resolution without impacting the GPU. Can also compute Z depths, occlusion culling, and stencil shadows. Yes, it will imapct the performance of the PS3. How much? I don't know enough to answer that, as alot is still unknown about the RSX.

3. Integrated communications for the PS3 only has the B/G while the one for XBOX has A/B/G (ready). That doesn't really matter too much does it?

Honestly, I have no idea what this is , but i'm sure it's meaningless.

4. What is the significance of the Cache? Will the MB of the 360 be a significant factor over the PS3's 512 KB

Possible advantage in favor of the Xbox 360, but to early to answer this, as still unsure exactly how the cache in the PS3 works. Also don't think it needs as big of a cache.

5. Can one of you break down the Memory Bandwidth? I see the different numbers and it looks like Sony has the upperhand there except that there's a number in the XBOX 360 joint that really doesn't click in my common sense on this stuff: 256 GB/s to eDRAM.

Maybe slight edge to the PS3, but that's without factoring in the 10MB of embedded DRAM at 256 GB/s. That's when things start to get complicated. Basically it's a wash.

Xenos (Xbox 360 GPU) is a two core chip, the 256 GB/s is the bus rate between the Parent die (GPU) and the daughter die (eDRAM). About 3x faster than high end RAM of today.

[luv_mist]

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Now that's what I was looking for. Maybe nextime I'll just pm you and then copy and paste to a board for those interested like me. Yeah, from what I'm seeing, it's sounding like it's a close tie between the two. This is interesting me more. My friend and I were talking about the wireless network in church yesterday somewhat. I got a good understanding of what those things might mean. I think it has something to do with the amount of information swapped between the network and the console. He told me about some laptops having 2 of the three and therefore hindering their speed of collecting the information as quickly. Still, it is a little unfamiliar. Flawless, you're too darn smart man. Looking all that stuff up. I was lost after the first response. I'm better off now though which is great. I am determined to understand.

[tenth]

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He told me about some laptops having 2 of the three and therefore hindering their speed of collecting the information as quickly.

Nah, that's not really it. A, B, and G are all different wireless standards that function differently and at different speeds. Your wireless card will only function on 1 standard. G is the most popular format now because of it's relatively fast speed (~55mbps) while maintaining a cheap cost. A (55mbps) and B (~11mbps) are older standards, with B being the more popular of the 2 due to its inexpensive cost. A was significantly more expensive, and never really took off in the consumer market as a result. G has made both A and B standards obsolete now.

The exclusion of support for A from 1 of the consoles will only make a difference to an extremely small amount of people, and even then, if I remember right, a lot of the wireless routers supporting A also supported the cheaper B format. For all intents and purposes, it's meaningless.

http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/wireless80211/a/aa80211standard.htm

I may have gotten a few details above wrong, but that's the general idea.

[Sleeper]

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I guess I'm the only one who doesn't really care about specs anymore. They'll all be monsters, just show me some interesting games.

My sentiments exactly. The way I see it, both systems are going to have great graphics.

The only thing that worries me about the next generation is how much longer will development be for these games. Right now it takes companies 2-3 years to come out with something. And if you're one that likes a particular series, that's like an eternity. Will it get longer? If so... *cries*

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I'll take longer for the first wave of games to develope and go gold, but the waves of games after that, dev. time should be significantly shorter since they'll get use to the systems and shortcuts, etc.

[pk500]

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I would like some links for that...I've only seen the very top games will be compatable...

I've never understood the screaming over backward compatibility. If it's so important to you, then just keep your Xbox or PS2 and don't buy a new system. Or -- gasp! -- wait to buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 until you see how the first generation of software pans out and continue to play your old Xbox games to your heart's desire.

I just don't understand people who want the newest and best system available on the market on launch day b*tching about backward compatibility. It's an oxymoron: You want the newest and best right away, yet you can't let go of the past.

Otherwise, sell the Xbox and PS2 games and console, using the proceeds to help you climb into the future of gaming. That's what I'll do when I decide to move to the next gen.

If you have such a big collection of Xbox games that lack of backward compatibility is a big issue, then you probably are so into gaming that owning an Xbox and Xbox 360 shouldn't be a problem for you.

Take care,
PK

[Fresh Tendrils]

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The one thing I wouldn't mind would be using Xbox controllers on the 360. Extra controllers are expensive. I don't care about backwards compatibility. I might have played one PS1 game on my PS2, but after playing with the new gen stuff, you can't go back really.

[luv_mist]

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My sentiments exactly. The way I see it, both systems are going to have great graphics.

The only thing that worries me about the next generation is how much longer will development be for these games. Right now it takes companies 2-3 years to come out with something. And if you're one that likes a particular series, that's like an eternity. Will it get longer? If so... *cries*

One thing that I believe might have been a factor is the lack of being able to put in a lot of things they wanted to due to the lack of space that wasn't "enough". I could be wrong but I think that's why a few games held back from drastic additions. Just a thought though. Maybe the games will come out less buggy and quicker. Hopefully whatever happens, the games will be on a greater level than we excpect. So ready to see what it's looking like. Then when both are full functional consoles..... I feel cream in my pants.

[jmood88]

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I've never understood the screaming over backward compatibility. If it's so important to you, then just keep your Xbox or PS2 and don't buy a new system. Or -- gasp! -- wait to buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 until you see how the first generation of software pans out and continue to play your old Xbox games to your heart's desire.

I just don't understand people who want the newest and best system available on the market on launch day b*tching about backward compatibility. It's an oxymoron: You want the newest and best right away, yet you can't let go of the past.

Otherwise, sell the Xbox and PS2 games and console, using the proceeds to help you climb into the future of gaming. That's what I'll do when I decide to move to the next gen.

If you have such a big collection of Xbox games that lack of backward compatibility is a big issue, then you probably are so into gaming that owning an Xbox and Xbox 360 shouldn't be a problem for you.

Take care,
PK

Exactly. I have never understood why this is such a huge issue. People might use it around the launch of the new systems but they'll eventually forget all about it. I'm still keeping my xbox so if I just have to play an old game then I'll play it.

[jmood88]

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The one thing I wouldn't mind would be using Xbox controllers on the 360. Extra controllers are expensive. I don't care about backwards compatibility. I might have played one PS1 game on my PS2, but after playing with the new gen stuff, you can't go back really.

Yeah that's something that would be nice. I wish I would be able to use my wireless xbox controllers on the 360 cause those things are really expensive. Hopefully the 360 comes with 2 controllers out of the box.

[luv_mist]

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Yeah that's something that would be nice. I wish I would be able to use my wireless xbox controllers on the 360 cause those things are really expensive. Hopefully the 360 comes with 2 controllers out of the box.

Speaking of wireless, you think any ole controllers would work that are XBOX 360 compatible or a special type?? Definitely might be very expensive on the real. Dang, more money