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  • ExtremeGamer
    Extra Life 11/3/18
    • Jul 2002
    • 35299

    #16
    Re: Next gen Disc space

    Originally posted by backbreaker
    Damn, I'm thirsty. The following is in capitals for those with bad eye sight.

    MS, WENT THE 2 SKU ROUTE BECAUSE OF HARD DRIVES!!!!

    Sony will not release a harddrive with their product, Blu-ray will be availble with every unit from the get go.
    Thanks Mr. Kurtagi, I'm glad you broke the release info on OS.

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    • Beantown
      #DoYourJob
      • Feb 2005
      • 31523

      #17
      Re: Next gen Disc space

      Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
      Thanks Mr. Kurtagi, I'm glad you broke the release info on OS.


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      • dagger55
        No end in sight...
        • Jul 2004
        • 7907

        #18
        Re: Next gen Disc space

        Originally posted by backbreaker
        I remember seeing a thread on we don't need blu-ray or hd-dvd for games, because it doesn't take up disc space, dvd 9 is just fine, well riddle me this? Taken from the 2k sports developer Q & A

        San Franpsycho: Thank you very much for taking the time to answer our questions, I really appreciate this. This is a two-part question:

        A. As one's GM Career and/or Franchise mode goes on, does the Inside Edge feature change as the seasons go by?

        For example, let's say David Wright of the Mets has his own Inside Edge report right now based on his short career. He will/should definitely progress to be an amazing hitter in just a couple of seasons. So will Inside Edge change as he progresses to the better hitter he will become, or will his IE report be the same as it was during the first season?

        B. On a similar note, how are the Inside Edge reports determined for future rookies and created players? Will we be able to fill out a basic form on how the Inside Edge report should be on certain players? For example, I know a lot about Giants minor league players and if I created them, I'd be able to come out with some realistic IE reports for them as I created them, if there were some kind of simple form to fill out while creating the player (ex. Aggressive early in counts, loves hitting fastballs, chases breaking balls behind in the count, etc.).

        Thanks again.

        Answer: Unfortunately, a player's Inside Edge tendencies do not "update" as a season progresses. We had wanted to do this and are planning on doing so for the future but the amount of Inside Edge data we are putting into the game takes up a lot of disk space. Making it update throughout a season is just too memory intensive at this time and we probably could have done it at the expense of having stick player models. Lots of tradeoffs have to be made in this business! We all want what you want but there are ALWAYS limitations (be they memory, time, or legal) to what we can and cannot do.
        ok for the bold part. it doesnt say that it takes up TOO much space, it just says it takes up ALOT of space.

        for the underline. memory does not equal disk space. i believe he is saying that currently, they dont have good enough code to streamline the process, but in the future they could

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        • backbreaker
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3991

          #19
          Re: Next gen Disc space

          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
          Thanks Mr. Kurtagi, I'm glad you broke the release info on OS.
          You forgot the -san Kutaragi-san, and the ish is chess not checkers. The art of war, read and believe, once you undersand asian culture, you will realize that they are humble in the arrogance, all the while seeing how you respond to their "percieved(sp) arrogance. Believe they have learned and are ready too lose profit, for market share. Its tried and true, datsun was dumped on the american shores, toyota, was dumped on the american shores, hyundai was dumped on american shores. You see a lost short term is nothing, its traditionally expected for market share.

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          • backbreaker
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 3991

            #20
            Re: Next gen Disc space

            Originally posted by dagger55
            ok for the bold part. it doesnt say that it takes up TOO much space, it just says it takes up ALOT of space.

            for the underline. memory does not equal disk space. i believe he is saying that currently, they dont have good enough code to streamline the process, but in the future they could
            What The....put the blunt down.

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            • dagger55
              No end in sight...
              • Jul 2004
              • 7907

              #21
              Re: Next gen Disc space

              Originally posted by backbreaker
              What The....put the blunt down.
              the title of this thread says Next Gen Disc Space...

              which i figured means Blu-Ray vs DVD9...

              but im saying that article has nothing to do with Blu Ray or DVD9... its talking about MEMORY

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              • backbreaker
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 3991

                #22
                Re: Next gen Disc space

                Originally posted by dagger55
                the title of this thread says Next Gen Disc Space...

                which i figured means Blu-Ray vs DVD9...

                but im saying that article has nothing to do with Blu Ray or DVD9... its talking about MEMORY
                So do you think todays games especially one as graphic heavy and text heavy as 2k baseball game is on anything less than DVD-9? don't forget normall mapping is the standard on Xbox as far as VC is concerned(sp)

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                • dagger55
                  No end in sight...
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 7907

                  #23
                  Re: Next gen Disc space

                  Originally posted by backbreaker
                  So do you think todays games especially one as graphic heavy and text heavy as 2k baseball game is on anything less than DVD-9? don't forget normall mapping is the standard on Xbox as far as VC is concerned(sp)
                  im just simply pointing out that he did not say disc space was a problem. he said he was having memory issues. two different things

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                  • backbreaker
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3991

                    #24
                    Re: Next gen Disc space

                    Originally posted by dagger55
                    im just simply pointing out that he did not say disc space was a problem. he said he was having memory issues. two different things
                    Dude, space is "Memory.

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                    • dagger55
                      No end in sight...
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 7907

                      #25
                      Re: Next gen Disc space

                      Originally posted by backbreaker
                      Dude, space is "Memory.
                      Dude, not the way he used the word.

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                      • ExtremeGamer
                        Extra Life 11/3/18
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 35299

                        #26
                        Re: Next gen Disc space

                        Just give it up Dagger, anytime he can find a way to slam the 360 he will. It's a lost cause. Hmm, where did I hear that earlier today.

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                        • dagger55
                          No end in sight...
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 7907

                          #27
                          Re: Next gen Disc space

                          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                          Just give it up Dagger, anytime he can find a way to slam the 360 he will. It's a lost cause. Hmm, where did I hear that earlier today.
                          lol
                          ya but i can try

                          maybe i can make him understand.

                          he said the process was to "memory intensive"

                          i can 100% garauntee that he is not referring to disc space.

                          he is most likey refering to RAM, because not every console will have a harddrive this time around....

                          So as simple as i can put it, the team was having trouble streamlining the process to the RAM, and they couldnt come up with any solutions for this years version, but in the future, they will come up with new tricks and gimmicks to get the info to the RAM without bogging down anything else.

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                          • backbreaker
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3991

                            #28
                            Re: Next gen Disc space

                            Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                            Just give it up Dagger, anytime he can find a way to slam the 360 he will. It's a lost cause. Hmm, where did I hear that earlier today.

                            Its called balance, this site used too be balanced, and now I don't what too say about you guys. Its comical and disheartning(sp) at the same time. Most of you cats have MS, DNA in your mouth and its sad.

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                            • dagger55
                              No end in sight...
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 7907

                              #29
                              Re: Next gen Disc space

                              Originally posted by backbreaker
                              Its called balance, this site used too be balanced, and now I don't what too say about you guys. Its comical and disheartning(sp) at the same time. Most of you cats have MS, DNA in your mouth and its sad.
                              im just trying to inform you on what that article was talking about, because you misunderstood it.

                              ive not made an anti MS statement or an anti Sony statement

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                              • sdrotar
                                OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 1055

                                #30
                                Re: Next gen Disc space

                                Originally posted by backbreaker
                                Its called balance, this site used too be balanced, and now I don't what too say about you guys. Its comical and disheartning(sp) at the same time. Most of you cats have MS, DNA in your mouth and its sad.
                                Backbreaker - first, prove you're balanced before calling anybody else out.
                                Otherwise, you're the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.

                                And Dagger is correct - "memory" never refers to disk space. Never.
                                Shawn Drotar
                                Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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