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  • USF11
    C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
    • Jun 2003
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    #16
    Re: 1080p not good for Gaming?

    Before this interview I was considering spending the extra money to get a 1080p DLP. Guess I will go cheaper.
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    • ODogg
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      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #17
      Re: 1080p not good for Gaming?

      I remember when I used to get excited cuz I was the only guy around who had EGA whereas all my friends had CGA. I'm sure most of you young pups won't know what i'm talking about but most of you older cats will!!
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      • koolbubbaice
        MVP
        • May 2004
        • 2236

        #18
        Re: 1080p not good for Gaming?

        Originally posted by USF11
        Before this interview I was considering spending the extra money to get a 1080p DLP. Guess I will go cheaper.
        Maybe you should get another opinion.. Tyler was wrong on some accounts.. He stated ABC/Fox use 720p cause it's better for sports..Um,No.. The truth is, 1080i takes up more bandwidth so those stations went with 720p..& if 720p was truly best for sports, why would CBS broadcast the NFL & NCAA BB in 1080i over the superior 720p?
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        • koolbubbaice
          MVP
          • May 2004
          • 2236

          #19
          Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

          Originally posted by USF11
          It depends on the Frame Per Second the game is playing at. If its under 30 1080i will look better the 720p. Anything over 30, and 720p will look better.
          Actually 720p is 60FPS
          1080i 30FPS
          1080 24FPS

          If you can actually see the added benefit of 60FPS over 30FPS, watching a sports game in 720p & 1080i, then you have better eyes then I do..Technically, what Tyler said about the FPS, lines, are true, but in practice you don't notice it..I have a CRT (1080i) & LCD (720p) & I can't tell the difference when watching sports..
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          • Klocker
            MVP
            • Jul 2003
            • 3239

            #20
            Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

            There is most likely going to be way too much slow down (in games) at 1080p on the PS3 hardware (for most games). That power can be used by Devs in other ways while running at a stunning 720p/1080i.

            The number of games using 1080p effectively, will probably be counted on 1 hand during the duration of the PS3 life and probably be 1st party IMO.

            the 1080P rhetoric was to one-up MS (720p) at E3 and was mostly aimed at movies on Blu-Ray while misleading gamers that it would be used extensively for games.

            The PS3 is just not THAT much more powerful.

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            • USF11
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              • Jun 2003
              • 4245

              #21
              Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

              Originally posted by Klocker
              There is most likely going to be way too much slow down (in games) at 1080p on the PS3 hardware (for most games). That power can be used by Devs in other ways while running at a stunning 720p/1080i.

              The number of games using 1080p effectively, will probably be counted on 1 hand during the duration of the PS3 life and probably be 1st party IMO.

              the 1080P rhetoric was to one-up MS (720p) at E3 and was mostly aimed at movies on Blu-Ray while misleading gamers that it would be used extensively for games.

              The PS3 is just not THAT much more powerful.
              I agree 100% on this. Thats why I will be paying over $500 to play Metal Gear.
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              • bigfnjoe96
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 11410

                #22
                Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

                KBI, you are 100% correct when you mentioned Microsoft's Agenda for pushing 720p. That Agenda is the partnership they have with Samsung, which is the leader in DLP Technology, which runs 720p.. As for 1080p. It's all hype since there is NO-CONTENT out there right now that can produce a pure 1080p resolution. 1080p is even an approved resolution if you want to get technical. Is it the resolution of the future. More than likely, the question is when????

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                • Spongedaddy
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                  • Feb 2006
                  • 2030

                  #23
                  Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

                  My TV can only do 1080i and I have noticed no slowdown. Has anyone who has played in both 180 and 720 really noticed a difference?

                  I really think the jury is out on 1080p since we have yet to see finalized content running on it. I do think that at a certain point the human eye is not going to pick up on huge differences anyway.
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                  • koolbubbaice
                    MVP
                    • May 2004
                    • 2236

                    #24
                    Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

                    Originally posted by Spongedaddy
                    My TV can only do 1080i and I have noticed no slowdown. Has anyone who has played in both 180 and 720 really noticed a difference?

                    I really think the jury is out on 1080p since we have yet to see finalized content running on it. I do think that at a certain point the human eye is not going to pick up on huge differences anyway.
                    Yes..No difference..
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                    • koolbubbaice
                      MVP
                      • May 2004
                      • 2236

                      #25
                      Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

                      Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                      KBI, you are 100% correct when you mentioned Microsoft's Agenda for pushing 720p. That Agenda is the partnership they have with Samsung, which is the leader in DLP Technology, which runs 720p.. As for 1080p. It's all hype since there is NO-CONTENT out there right now that can produce a pure 1080p resolution. 1080p is even an approved resolution if you want to get technical. Is it the resolution of the future. More than likely, the question is when????
                      TY.. I'm glad you can see it too..Its the same with Sony pushing 1080p..There is 1080p content online, but is scarse..But gaming in 1080p is awesome though.. Thereare panels that can produce a pure 1080p resolution..The Westy comes to mind.. & you are correct. 1080p isn't a standard HD resolution..Only 720p/1080i.. I doubt 1080p will be mainstream anytime soon. Maybe 10 yrs from now..Too much bandwidth comsuption..
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                      • dave360
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 4081

                        #26
                        Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

                        Originally posted by koolbubbaice
                        TY.. I'm glad you can see it too..Its the same with Sony pushing 1080p..There is 1080p content online, but is scarse..But gaming in 1080p is awesome though.. Thereare panels that can produce a pure 1080p resolution..The Westy comes to mind.. & you are correct. 1080p isn't a standard HD resolution..Only 720p/1080i.. I doubt 1080p will be mainstream anytime soon. Maybe 10 yrs from now..Too much bandwidth comsuption..
                        I would gather that unless it's a new network with a new install, you won't see 1080p for quite a long time if ever on broadcast television. The cost of the equipment is signifigantly more than both 480p, 720p, and 1080i for broadcast stations. Unless the FCC forces ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox to start broadcasting in 1080p, you'll probably never see it happen. Remember, old black and white televisions still work because the last time the FCC mandated anything for local tv stations was when they made the switch from black and white to color televisions. The date when stations have to turn in their old channel frequencies isn't coming up until 2008 I believe, and most stations will miss that deadline by a lot. 1080p will be very popular with gamers and DVD viewers I would say, but I'd almost guarantee that you won't see any major broadcast network in 1080p for quite some time.

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                        • burnwood
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                          • May 2003
                          • 2270

                          #27
                          Re: 1080pnot good for Gaming?

                          After reading this thread it sounds like maybe two or three listened to the podcast.

                          All summed up the "HD expert" said that each HD standard isn't necessarily the best standard across the board for all applications. There was mentioned that 720p natively supports 60fps with 720 vertical lines versus 1080i's 540 vertical lines. And with that 720p @ 60fps is currently the best HD standard for video games and sports broadcasts because of the fast moving action.

                          Then there was talk about 1080p (which currently isn't a standard yet). He mentioned that 1080p currently is at 24fps which wouldn't look good for games and sports broadcasts but looks good for stills and film like Discovery Channel HD. 1080p @ 60 fps isn't here yet because production equipment hasn't caught up to the processing requirements and bandwidth required for 1080p @ 60fps. So, any 1080p gaming we will see will be upscaled by the console or TV.

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