Guys, I was just wondering what are your thoughts. It seems more and more games that are coming out on next gen is priced 60.00 for the 360 and 60+ for the Ps3. The problem is they are charging more then ever for a game yet they are taking things out of them. Then they turn around and offer those things that are missing via Marketplace or sony's upcoming online attempt for a price. I have to sell my 360 here shortly on ebay because of a second job. But I will definately pick up another down the road. But when I don't have a 360 if I see that this is the normal thing starting again I will think long and hard about buying another next gen console. Lets say I buy a game Madden and buy alternate jerseys I'm not paying 60 for the game I'm paying 70+ depending on what you want. I don't like where they are taking the future. I'm seriously hoping the Wii Doesn't do this.. In the future will you pay 60+ for a game and then have levels, tracks, jerseys, and cars for purchase and ending up paying 70 and way up?? What are your thoughts.
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Its a f***ing shame where gaming is going. It already started with paying for jerseys and other things that THE GAME SHOULD ALREADY COME WITH. If they are not going to give the things that should be there, then they shouldn't charge $60+ for games.
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I've been saying this for awhile and I don't like where console gaming is going.
With that said what use to be the most expensive form of gaming is now looking like the bargain again, and that my friends is called PC Gaming. Console gaming is getting insane. $400+ for a system, $60+ for games and now some are being stripped for hopes the developer cash in on micro transactions. They can have it.
So it's "Back To The Future" for me.
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I'm getting by perfectly fine with a PS2 and classic xbox/cube games. The PS2 in particular has a lineup that stands up to any of the next-gen consoles out this year.Comment
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I don't think the consoles, particularly the 360, are overpriced. The technology that goes into these things is expensive. You realize they take a loss every time they sell one because it costs more to make one than what they sell it for, right?
There's a difference between "overpriced" and "value/worth" to you. You're using "overpriced" when you should be using you don't think the consoles are "worth" the money. "Worth" is subjective. You may feel something is not worth the money while others do. That's what being a consumer is about. If you don't feel something is worth your money you shouldn't buy it.
Same thing with the games. I've passed on many next-gen games because I don't think they offer enough to make them worth the $60.
An important thing to keep in mind is that these games and consoles are entertainment products. They're not necessities and nothing is owed to anyone. It's up to you to make the decisions. EA doesn't *owe* you alternate jerseys just because they slapped a $60 price tag on their game. As long as they don't say on the box it has alternate jerseys, you're not owed anything when you buy it about alternate jerseys. It's up to you yo decide whether or not you then feel the game is worth your $60. If it's that important to you to have alternate jerseys, you can pay extra for them. You don't have to. Again, it's a matter of "worth."
I'm tired of hearing people complain as if they should be giving things away. I've touched on this in another thread, but there's a problem in this culture of entitlement. Everyone thinks they are owed everything they want just because they want it on their terms.Comment
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Fair enought but that's what most of us mean when we say overpriced. You are getting caught up in semantics. The vast majority here at OS realizes that MS and Sony take losses on hardware sales in order to establish market share and profit from software sales and accessories.
Nobody here is asking to get something for nothing but many people think the products are overpriced/not worth it based on the history of pricing in the console market. When people want to just buy a gaming system, these systems are extremely expensive and people ARE excercising their right not to buy it. That's what has MS and Sony scared because they are seeing the PS2 still outselling the 360. The value factor of a PS2 far exceeds the value factor of the 360 and will greatly exceed the PS3 as well. Next generation will be a big disappointment imo and price will be one of the biggest reasons.
"I'm tired of hearing people complain as if they should be giving things away. I've touched on this in another thread, but there's a problem in this culture of entitlement. Everyone thinks they are owed everything they want just because they want it on their terms."
- It has nothing to do with a feeling of entitlement imo. People do want to buy a new system if the price makes sense to them. That is our right period. We have the right to buy it on our terms which means two or three years from now when the cost of a gaming system makes sense to people, we may buy one. Nothing wrong with that or complaining about the price of these new systems.Last edited by rudyjuly2; 09-22-2006, 09:13 AM.Comment
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That is true. People need to remember that games usually drop in price over the life of a console as well. However, buying cars, mascots, race tracks, etc instead of including them in the game like they used to do is a completely new money grab for the console gamer.Comment
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I've seen this scene played out in both the sports cards and comic book industries. Video games are on the same path they both went down, and in the near term it will be a bumpy ride for the consumers.
It starts with a relatively small, or niche entertainment market. At some point this market has a boom period where the consumer abse grows rapidly. At first this results in more product and greater variety for the consumers. All is good in the world until at some point the focus of those producing the product changes from pleasing the customers to trying to find new ways to get even more money out of those customers. Suddenly it's no longer about giving the customer what they want, it about seeing what the customer is willing to put up with.
For the comics industry the turning point came with publishers making "special" editions every other month, or offering up 5 variants of the same book in an effort to get the same people to buy the same book multiple times. The result is that they turn off the the same people who built the industry up to where it was at, and those people begin to turn away in disgust. Now, this did not mean the end of either industry, but they both took a hit, and are mush smaller than they were at their peak.
This is the same thing I see with gaming right now. If i werre a roller coaster, I'd say we had just past the peak and are on the way down. $60 games with less features than the "old school" versions, paying for content that used to be included, $400-$600 consoles, etc.. are all going to bring the industry down over te next few years.
I would love to make the next gen leap, but at this point I don't see any compelling reason to. I expect the next gen to be a couple of steps forward from what I already have. To me it's been one step forward, 2 steps back. Sure, the graphics are improved, but I'd be losing out on features I use (fantasy drafts, challenging calls, roster editing) and content I use (alternate jerseys, lots of courses in racing and golf games).
By the look of the NPD numbers, which show just over 200,000 360s being sold a month, I'd say I'm not alone. Despite what you may thiink of a guy from Sony ripping the 360, the facts are that the PS2 is outselling the 360, and the Xbox was selling better over the same time period than the 360 is.Comment
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