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  • Jimplication
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    • Aug 2004
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    Largest profits coming from older consoles

    Older Consoles Lift Game Publishers
    Sony PS2 and Nintendo DS
    Drive Sales as Newer Models
    Get Set for Holiday Launch

    By NICK WINGFIELD
    October 31, 2006; Page B3

    The buzz in videogames is all about new hardware, including the imminent launch of Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Co.'s Wii consoles, along with the prospects for Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 in its sophomore holiday season.

    The biggest money in games, though, is coming from older, less sexy machines such as Sony's PlayStation 2, which has been out for six years, and the Nintendo DS portable console, which has been out for two years. That should become apparent Thursday when Electronic Arts Inc., the world's largest publisher of computer games by sales, reports financial results for the quarter. After a rough patch for publishers, Wall Street analysts have become more bullish on the videogame sector in recent months because of unexpectedly strong sales of software for older consoles.

    "I would say PS2 has been one of the two major surprises of this year, the other being how strong DS has been," said John Taylor, an analyst at Arcadia Investment Corp. in Portland, Ore.

    Many publishers posted weak sales and profits late last year and early this year, a side effect of the transition to new consoles. Often these shifts, which take place every five or six years, cause consumers to curb spending on games until they get their hands on new machines.

    The Xbox 360 came out this past November, but it was difficult to find on store shelves. Microsoft has sold more than six million Xbox 360s, but there aren't enough in homes to give the game industry a boost. The PS3 and Wii go on sale in mid-November, and they also are expected to be in short supply.

    Consumers are spending more on games for older hardware than analysts expected, giving a lift to publishers such as EA. Mr. Taylor said the Redwood City, Calif., company saw strong sales last quarter of the PS2 version of its flagship football product, Madden NFL.

    Previously, analysts were predicting no growth or a slight decline in sales in EA's most recent quarter, from $675 million in the same period a year ago. But earlier this month, analysts bumped up their revenue estimates for EA following the release of strong game-sales figures from NPD Group Inc., a firm that tracks U.S. retail trends.

    Evan Wilson, of Pacific Crest Securities, raised his revenue estimate for EA to $725 million, or 7.4% growth from a year before. Analysts still predict a decline in EA earnings for its most recent quarter, in large part because of the investments the publisher is making in developing titles for the latest consoles.

    One reason PS2 game sales are doing so well is price. Sony earlier this year dropped the price of the console to $129 from $149, a move that appears to have attracted a lot of new game buyers. In fact, the PS2 is outselling the Xbox 360, even though it is a far less advanced machine. Mr. Taylor, citing NPD data, said Sony has sold 2.4 million units in the U.S. this year, compared with 2.1 million units for the Xbox 360.

    The trend has helped strengthen the PS2's position as the dominant videogame console, with more than 106 million shipped world-wide.
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  • spankdatazz22
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    • May 2003
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    Re: Largest profits coming from older consoles

    I think this should be expected, and good for us that the average consumer doesn't cave as easily as hardcore gamers do. I think most people are still balking at the price of the next gen consoles and games. $400+ a console and $60+ for a single game is more an investment than a casual purchase for most. Also throw in that most people don't have hi-def tvs, which also have to be factored into the equation somewhat. And the software in next gen hasn't differentiated itself enough from the current gen for most people to warrant people taking the plunge. There's plenty of great next-gen games out and/or coming in the next few months, but I know friends that see no reason to purchase a 360 or PS3 right now
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    • Stu
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      • Jun 2004
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      Re: Largest profits coming from older consoles

      My problem, as somebody who doesnt follow gaming as much as I used to, is that alot of the next gen games don't have the same features as current gen. This may not always be the case but I've seen a lot of complaints about how games like FIFA 07 have a lot more leagues, stadiums, etc in the current gen game than the next gen. Why do I want to pay all the money to go next gen to play a stripped down version of the game?
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      • Fresh Tendrils
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        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

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        Re: Largest profits coming from older consoles

        I know the PS3 are expected to be in short supply, but is the Wii really going to be limited? Hasn't Nintendo provided an adequate number of systems in the past to prevent them from being in short supply?



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        • pk500
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          • Jul 2002
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          Re: Largest profits coming from older consoles

          Originally posted by camulos
          My problem, as somebody who doesnt follow gaming as much as I used to, is that alot of the next gen games don't have the same features as current gen. This may not always be the case but I've seen a lot of complaints about how games like FIFA 07 have a lot more leagues, stadiums, etc in the current gen game than the next gen. Why do I want to pay all the money to go next gen to play a stripped down version of the game?
          Simple: Graphics whores are everywhere.

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          • Stu
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            • Jun 2004
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            Re: Largest profits coming from older consoles

            Originally posted by pk500
            Simple: Graphics whores are everywhere.

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            Makes sense. I guess I'm going the other way on that one since I'm getting into a lot more text based games. OOTP, FM, BBCF, FOF, etc.
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            • rudyjuly2
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              • Aug 2002
              • 14815

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              Re: Largest profits coming from older consoles

              Originally posted by pk500
              Simple: Graphics whores are everywhere.

              Take care,
              PK
              Very true but the graphic leaps in systems aren't as big as past years. People are still generally happy with current gen and don't want to drop a ton of cash on the new systems. This report is a reflection on the high price and slow beginning of next gen and should worry Sony and MS. We've talked before about how the games are the major selling feature and why the DS is kicking the PSP's butt.

              I'm still generally happy with the PS2 graphics. I saw Madden 360 running in EB and from the gameplay camera (not closeups), it didn't blow me away where I wanted to run out and get the system. The PS2 version in 2000 blew me away compared to the PS1 and I had to get a PS2.

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