Blu-Ray Already Ripped on PS3

[CaptainZombie]

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Couldn't someone just take the downloaded movie off of their hard drive and then download the update without messing up the system?

Not necessarily, since they would have had to of modded their PS3 or used some kind of homebrew software. The firmware upgrade detects foreign software on the system that doesn't belong there like the PSP, and then you get....................................BRICK!

If Sony is smart, they will make it to where their PS3 games upon release require the latest Firmware upgrade before they can work. This way you can't play the latest game without having the latest firmware upgrade on your system + it helps cut down on the piracy. There will be people that will find a way around it, like they did for the PSP, but it requires some work everytime you want to play the latest game. I have no problems with companies like Sony or MS bricking systems that pirates are using illegally.

[Kashanova]

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once bd-ram's come out and people can burn ps3 games, then i will say it's the begining of the end

[bkfount]

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I totally forgot how great all the PS2 launch games were compared to the DC. Piracy was the main factor. If 10 people bought a DC and only 2 had original copies of games it was not good at all. There were a lot of factors why the PS2 was more popular then the DC and that's another place and another useless zombie conversation.

3rd party support was better for the ps2 than dreamcast. Hell, 3rd party support was even better for the ps1. The playstation already had a user base who was waiting for the ps2. Games were already annouced for the ps2 launch that the dreamcast never got. That kills systems, while piracy is not a huge factor as you want it to be.

They got owned in both marketing hype and delivered goods. The dreamcast is a great system, and I loved it. But it's mostly arcade games and stuff that wasn't considered as mainstream as a Madden 2001 was, making it a niche system in a mainstream market. It also wasn't a cheap DVD player for the day.

I see your name and laugh, as I was also a loyal sega fan, owning consoles from the genesis to the dreamcast. They just died off man, let it go. They died off due to many of their poor buisiness decisions and saying piracy is the main reason is letting them off easy. They did after all have like 3 or 4 failures previous to the dreamcast as well.

So can you provide proof that SONY made it impossible to run BD images? The PS3 acts like a PS2, has a HDD (ugly things happen when people are able to modify game save files), and seems to be as hackable as the PSP (which seem to run the same GUI...not good at all). Let’s not even get into impossible and doubts here. Nothing is impossible nowadays.

no, I don't have a link. And honestly, won't look the stuff I read back up, as it was reported like over a week ago. Anyways, from what I understand the ps3 can be made to emulate old systems/homebrew kinda easily through putting linux on it, as Sony allowed. I said there is almost no way for a iso to run inside linux because linux doesn't have access to the required hardware to run the PS3 image. The RSX graphics cards is blocked off from use when not running the original ps3 OS. I can see the appeal in it though, as IBM and Sony are basically daring people to try, otherwise they wouldn't have allowed the use of linux.

It'll take a while to get the piracy going on the ps3, which is fine, as most consoles have it happen eventually. The xbox piracy was huge, yet it didn't seem to hurt that console much. I just wouldn't proclaim the ps3 dead because of this news, as it isn't really anywhere near being cracked yet. When BD burners become cheaper and the disks don't cost $20, perhaps people can make a mod chip then.

[bkfount]

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once bd-ram's come out and people can burn ps3 games, then i will say it's the begining of the end

please...

Even without assuming that sony at least considered this and made the same restrictions they do now with the blocking of playing DVDR's with games on it, piracy is almost always present in some form for consoles. If you wanted, you can pirate almost every game for the ps2 by using a standard internal HDD and a high speed internet connection. This has yet to come anywhere close to killing the ps2. The xbox also had a nice little scene going for itself, and yet a game called Halo 2 owned in sales.

Having checks in place like requiring physical disks and original hardware to play online keeps it in line. You can't play online with a ps2 modded in the way I mentioned above.

[thelwig14]

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Videogame piracy is one of the most overstated, overblown topics I can think of in the entertainment industry. It has been and is now only a ripple in the general scheme of things.

[HMcCoy]

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I'm not to sharp on the tech of the machine, but a hardcore pirate buddy who told me Sony has left a pretty big doorway for mods through the PS3's design...and that he puts full system rippage at about 6 months. Based on whats going on already, 6 mos looks may be conservative.

No internet + no authentic games being used = no updates, and lets be honest...Sony's online isn't all that compelling. Sony better figure out something quickly.

[AI_Franchise]

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Videogame piracy is one of the most overstated, overblown topics I can think of in the entertainment industry. It has been and is now only a ripple in the general scheme of things.

Agreed. Who's to say piracy actually doesn't help sell systems? It does.

[ComfortablyLomb]

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Agreed. Who's to say piracy actually doesn't help sell systems? It does.

It might sell systems but a lot more profit comes from games than consoles...

...especially when you're losing $200 on every console you make.

[Rodster]

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It might sell systems but a lot more profit comes from games than consoles...

...especially when you're losing $200 on every console you make.

I read it costs Sony $840 to build the PS3.

[DaveDQ]

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I'm not well informed about such things, but do you think this is one of the main reasons why the 360's HD-DVD player is external?

[SLAYER]

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Probably, dQbell. HD-DVD has supposedly better anti-piracy technology.

But you know the deal: the more "hacker-proof" a product is claimed to be, the greater effort to crack it...

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/11/8303/

[Rodster]

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I'm not well informed about such things, but do you think this is one of the main reasons why the 360's HD-DVD player is external?

Microsoft wanted to keep costs down and allow you the choice whether you wanted to buy it or not.

[DaveDQ]

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Microsoft wanted to keep costs down and allow you the choice whether you wanted to buy it or not.

Yes, I know....but what did they really mean? lol

[Rodster]

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Yes, I know....but what did they really mean? lol

LOL, I guess that went over my head.

[bkfount]

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Yes, I know....but what did they really mean? lol

it means they wanted to keep production costs down and leave the ultimate choice up to the user, which is what sony should have done. MS is actually sitting on the fence and admitted that they'd support bluray if it won too.

Why would making a HD-DVD drive external matter for piracy when DVDs are already able to be ripped and burned.