Street Fighter IV/Super SF IV/SSF IV: Arcade Edition (360/PS3/PC)

[Pared]

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That's what I used to use as well... when I was good on an arcade stick, many moons ago.

Been getting into this game recently... with the upcoming SSF4, I'm actually more excited about this than Super TurboHD! Yeah, never thought I'd say that.

If they can limit some of the mid move throws, I'm sold. Still pisses me off when you're in the middle of a move and someone can throw you.

[Vast]

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Welcome to the club, kc. I'll add you.

I'm starting to get a feel for things. I didn't realize the transition would be as drastic as it is, where I'd be having trouble with basic things like jumping straight up, blocking, etc. Also finally found a comfortable grip to hold the stick. I'm using sort of a modified wine glass grip, before I was clutching the stick like I was shifting gears.

Im glad it wasn't just me. lol. I had an arcade stick but just wasn't comfortable with it. weeks before SF4 dropped i ordered my fightpad from Amazon it never ever came. So i was forced to learn to use the stick. Took me a while to adapt thats for sure. To this day i think im still probably better on a pad. and its been years since i've used one (not counting my PSP version.)

You know what.... I just decided...... im getting a Fightpad!!!

[kcxiv]

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If i used a fightpad to play, i would rage so hard and end up breaking it. lol Arcade sticks are definately better as you have better access to all the buttons.

Like i said, if anyone is up for some practice. i roll Gen and Sim.

[3rdAnswer]

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If i used a fightpad to play, i would rage so hard and end up breaking it. lol Arcade sticks are definately better as you have better access to all the buttons.

Like i said, if anyone is up for some practice. i roll Gen and Sim.

I could use more practice matching up against each of these characters.

My main characters are M.Bison and Balrog, but I'm still trying to turn the corner with Sakura.

[eDotd]

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Just finished playing a set of about 60 with kc..

Real good games. I think I was able to really make some progress with this stick fighting your Gen. I got stuffed hella times by your jump ins because I was trying to flame kick them and I just wasn't fast enough, but as we moved on my reaction began to speed up a little. There was one match where I flame kicked a jump in and I didn't even realize I did the motion...that's the kind of feeling I had on a pad, the kind I'm trying to get with the stick.

I don't know if it's the way you were playing him or if it's just Gen's skillset but he seems very limited to me. Seems like the only way he can start an offense is with a jump/cross up, or mk. If I stay out of that mk range and punish jump ins I feel like I completely dominate the match. There were times when I would get a health lead and just sit back to see how Gen can start an offense if I didn't come to him. Anybody else who plays with or against Gen feel that way? Also, I don't know what link it was but you have it locked down. Look like hands > s.mk > hands? Crap was annoying the hell out of me.

Your Sim was solid as well. I would try and give you pointers but I absolutely suck with Sim..lol.

Biggest thing I noticed is that you seem to have a LOT of trouble with mix ups. Once I got you in the corner and started using Chicken Wing mix ups it was basically game over.

Overall GGs. If you have any advice for me feel free to post. I know I missed hella links and my Sakura was straight up ***.

[kcxiv]

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Just finished playing a set of about 60 with kc..

Real good games. I think I was able to really make some progress with this stick fighting your Gen. I got stuffed hella times by your jump ins because I was trying to flame kick them and I just wasn't fast enough, but as we moved on my reaction began to speed up a little. There was one match where I flame kicked a jump in and I didn't even realize I did the motion...that's the kind of feeling I had on a pad, the kind I'm trying to get with the stick.

I don't know if it's the way you were playing him or if it's just Gen's skillset but he seems very limited to me. Seems like the only way he can start an offense is with a jump/cross up, or mk. If I stay out of that mk range and punish jump ins I feel like I completely dominate the match. There were times when I would get a health lead and just sit back to see how Gen can start an offense if I didn't come to him. Anybody else who plays with or against Gen feel that way? Also, I don't know what link it was but you have it locked down. Look like hands > s.mk > hands? Crap was annoying the hell out of me.

Your Sim was solid as well. I would try and give you pointers but I absolutely suck with Sim..lol.

Biggest thing I noticed is that you seem to have a LOT of trouble with mix ups. Once I got you in the corner and started using Chicken Wing mix ups it was basically game over.

Overall GGs. If you have any advice for me feel free to post. I know I missed hella links and my Sakura was straight up ***.

Good games, but ya, as it went on that damn combo you did was killer to me. I couldnt block that or get out of it. One thing i have to learn with Gen is the switch stancing to get out of them corners. Its a pain for me right now. Gen doesnt have many moves. He's limited, but when you do it right, it looks like a thing of beauty. I have problems with being able to switch stances into Oga's. I am a whole lot better then i used to be though. I need to go into training mode and just keep doing it over and over until it becomes more natural to me. I barely started to do them cross up oga's to days ago.

I also have to learn how to focus cancel. I been practicing that a little, but its so hard to do MK, Hands, MK, focus cancel, MP,MK hands or throw. Once i get that down, the damage he does is freaking insane. Its just really really hard to do. I also need to get better at piano'ing Gen's hands so i dont always use my EX meter.

Watch this video. Thats how Gen is supposed to be played. I am learning.lol
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Word has it, he's the hardest character to play.

[3rdAnswer]

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Gen is also the character with the steepest learning curve.

[eDotd]

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Juri info

On Juri

I quickly jumped on the chance to try playing Juri, the first original roster addition announced for the game. Juri hails from Korea and uses Tae Kwon Do as a basis for her attacks. As one might expect from this, her arsenal is heavily geared towards leg attacks with a few light punches thrown in for good measure. What you probably won't expect is most everything else about her. Juri, as it turns out, is a character geared towards competitive players who enjoy screwing with their opponents' minds just as much as they enjoy slugging them in the face.

Juri's attacks are all easy to execute - they're standard quarter-circle motions all around, though there is a slightly more tricky kick maneuver that is executed by a quarter-circle in midair (which can be followed up with additional hits by hitting a kick button repeatedly as it connects). The thing about many of her skills is that they tend to function a bit differently than what you might be used to. She has a projectile, for example: pressing weak kick gives you a low fireball (which can counter Sagat's low Tiger, though it's a bit too slow to win any projectile fights), medium kick gives you a high fireball, and heavy kick shoots a projectile up diagonally. But here's the twist: Juri can execute the fireball motion, but can actually hold the projectile as long as the player keeps the button held down. That's right: you can zip around the field and then fire off that energy you charged seconds earlier in a more strategic position. Sure, you essentially lose all function in that button, but you gain the ability to apply the projectile in a situation you normally wouldn't. You can even charge 3 projectiles with all 3 buttons at once - meaning that some crazy Juri player out there might just take it upon themselves to figure out how to play SFIV with a pinky finger.)

She can also cancel out projectiles with the startup for this attack. However, her EX version of this skill lacks the charge property, so don't expect to be holding your high-powered fireball for half the match.
Another skill Juri has to throw the opponent off guard is a strike that allows her to neutralize an incoming attack and instantly move to a different position on-screen depending on which button was pressed (and an EX version that shoots straight upwards). She doesn't move too far - it's not like the teleportation skills of other characters - but it's fast enough to counter attacks like close-range fireballs and wage a speedy reversal of fortune on an unsuspecting party. I expect to see Juri players trying to "bait" attacks that can be countered to lead into some nasty setups. Her Ultra Combo is more standard fare - though, as you'll see in the clips attached, it's both strong and sultry. Juri does pay a bit of a price for her trickiness, however: the damage her strikes deal is a bit lower than the norm, and she also suffers reduced defense (though not to the degree of Akuma). But after spending time with her, I think I've found my new favorite Street Fighter IV character. (Don't worry, Viper, I still love you. Just maybe not as much as before.)

[thaima1shu]

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I'm debating whether I should try to learn a second character or just stick with Zangief until I get better with him. The drop off when I use any other character is drastic when I switch it up from Gief. Hmm ...

[3rdAnswer]

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I'm debating whether I should try to learn a second character or just stick with Zangief until I get better with him. The drop off when I use any other character is drastic when I switch it up from Gief. Hmm ...

Learning new characters is always fun.

I get bored fighting with the same person over and over. I stick with Bison, Balrog and Sakura

[3rdAnswer]

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http://shoryuken.com/?p=1706

Cody, Guy, Adon, Ibuki join SSF4!

[jmood88]

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I have no idea who those people are.

[LBzrule]

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I have no idea who those people are.

Cody and Guy = old Capcom game Final Fight. The other two I don't know. Scratch that, I think Ibuki was from Street Fighter 3. Let me pull out the Dreamcast real quick.

Edit:
Yes Ibuki is from Street Fighter 3.

[3rdAnswer]

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Cody, Guy and Adon were also all in the Street Fighter Alpha series. Out of these characters, I MIGHT pick up Guy or Cody. Most likely I'll stick with my current mains though.

[Pared]

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Adon was a no-brainer. They had him in Sagat's story.