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  • rdelizo35
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    • Jul 2008
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    My thoughts on EA

    First off, let me offer this disclaimer: I am, in no way, starting this thread to complain or bad mouth EA at all, but I just had some thoughts on Electronic Arts, both good and bad, that I wanted to share. So, without further delay, here are my honest, uncensored thoughts:

    Electronic Arts, for all its criticism, has been one of the most successful companies in the video game industry. From Madden to The Sims, Electronic Arts boasts some of the most recognizable titles in gaming history.

    Madden NFL Football, for example, is the company's biggest and most recognized sports franchise. The yearly sales of the EA Sports line alone would make a lesser company literally jump for joy.

    As a longtime gamer, I have had a ton of experience playing EA games, everything from Madden to The Sims and everything in between. Year in and year out, I faithfully bought all my favorite EA franchises like Madden and NBA Live; playing them until my hands had no feeling.

    Along the way, however, something happened to bring my faith in EA crashing down to Earth. The games that I loved playing like Madden and NBA Live, for example, were plagued with glitches, bugs, graphical stutters, etc. In short, I stopped playing EA games altogether because the faults that the games had were getting in the way of my enjoyment. They were always there, of course, but there was a time when I just played the games to see what was wrong with them, instead of actually enjoying the whole experience of playing video games. (Which is why I started playing video games in the first place.)

    Fast forward to 2008. Though I have not touched a Madden game in years, the strides that the game has made has more than rekindled my desire to want to jump back in the series and play some NFL football again. In addition, NBA Live '09 has made some positive strides that could make it one of the best games ever made in the NBA Live series.

    Granted, the innovations, features, and familiarity have kept me playing. However, with that being said, the recent decline in the quality of EA franchises has been maddening (pun intended), disappointing, and frustrating. In short, I want to trust EA to deliver quality games that I will love to play, but, based on their recent track record, I am probably never going to ever have the complete faith in them like I did when I was growing up and thought everything that EA did was the best thing since sliced bread.

    Now that I am much older and a little wiser, I am careful not to put too much faith in EA. However, I also refrain from the inclination to bash them because they have begun to show improvements in their games and a willingness to interact with gamer communities so that they can continue to make the games they put out better.

    In the end, I have realized that every game is going to have its fair share of problems. That being said, however, it is unrealistic for me to want a game to be 100% perfect. I'm sorry, but that's just not going to happen. I've come to accept that as a fact of like just like death and taxes.

    Is EA the best thing since (insert phrase here)? No, they are not. But are they the Anti-Christ or the Evil Empire? No they are not, no matter how much their games continue to impress, excite, frustrate, and annoy me. At the end of the day, the most important lesson I learned was this: Whether you like their games or not, EA is just a video game company. And, although there may be many reasons why people play games like Madden and NBA Live, the best reason to play video games may be because they can be actually fun to play. (Wow, what an epiphany, huh?)

    Note to Mods: If this thread is misplaced, please feel free to move this to the appropriate section as I was unsure where to post this. Thanks!
    Last edited by rdelizo35; 08-21-2008, 10:21 PM.
  • Brian_OS
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    • Jul 2002
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    Re: My thoughts on EA

    Not sure the point of this long post is. If you are coming to OS to inform us that EA has dropped the ball in recent titles, that is not a news flash here. At this point I think most of us do the ole "finger check" with EA before dropping 60 bones. I agree with you that Madden is getting there. Not sure how NBA Live will do. The Tiger demo literally zap the good feelings I had in my lower regions with Madden 09. Did EA rob Tiger's budget for Madden? Sure seems like it.

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    • rdelizo35
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      • Jul 2008
      • 148

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      Re: My thoughts on EA

      Originally posted by Brian_OS
      Not sure the point of this long post is. If you are coming to OS to inform us that EA has dropped the ball in recent titles, that is not a news flash here. At this point I think most of us do the ole "finger check" with EA before dropping 60 bones. I agree with you that Madden is getting there. Not sure how NBA Live will do. The Tiger demo literally zap the good feelings I had in my lower regions with Madden 09. Did EA rob Tiger's budget for Madden? Sure seems like it.
      Brian_OS,

      No, I didn't come here to say that EA dropped the ball or anything, I just wanted to share my thoughts with the OS community, as a fellow gamer. That's all.

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      • The GIGGAS
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        • Mar 2003
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        Re: My thoughts on EA

        Well written, sir.
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        • rdelizo35
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          • Jul 2008
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          Re: My thoughts on EA

          Originally posted by The GIGGAS
          Well written, sir.
          Thanks, The GIGGAS, I appreciate the compliment. I actually wasn't trying to deliberately bash EA or offend anyone. I'd be stupid to write something thinking that I was the only one thinking it and no one else knew.

          I think that I just wanted to express my honest opinon about EA and tried making it at least semi-intelligent.

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          • Bornindamecca
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            • Jul 2007
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            Honestly, I think this is a little silly. EA is so much bigger than Madden and Live, it's not even funny. The company is just too big to be categorized like a development house. You can have "faith" in Visual Concepts, or Harmonix, because essentially those places are run by the same "brain". The development of EA's long, long list of titles is handled by several different brains. So if you're going to praise or criticize them, you have to address them almost independently of the EA logo.

            EA is putting out:
            Mercenaries 2
            Mass Effect
            The Godfather II
            Army of Two
            Battlefield: Bad Company
            Skate.
            and plenty, plenty more.

            What do those games have to do with the various failures and successes of Madden or Live?

            It's not even about whether you're right or wrong. The conversation doesn't qualify, because it doesn't make any sense.
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            • rdelizo35
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              • Jul 2008
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              Re: My thoughts on EA

              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
              Honestly, I think this is a little silly. EA is so much bigger than Madden and Live, it's not even funny. The company is just too big to be categorized like a development house. You can have "faith" in Visual Concepts, or Harmonix, because essentially those places are run by the same "brain". The development of EA's long, long list of titles is handled by several different brains. So if you're going to praise or criticize them, you have to address them almost independently of the EA logo.

              EA is putting out:
              Mercenaries 2
              Mass Effect
              The Godfather II
              Army of Two
              Battlefield: Bad Company
              Skate.
              and plenty, plenty more.

              What do those games have to do with the various failures and successes of Madden or Live?

              It's not even about whether you're right or wrong. The conversation doesn't qualify, because it doesn't make any sense.
              Bornindamecca,

              I do see what your saying. Of course, EA is much bigger than just a development house. I apologize if either the tone or what I said made it seem like I characterized EA as just a mere "development" house. Of course, they aren't. They've been in the business for a long time and have been hugely successful at what they do. More power to them, I say.

              What I wanted to do is just share my thoughts, and I've done that. You may disagree or not care or whatever, that's up to you. In fact, you're entitled to it, just like anyone else.

              You and I may disagree, but that's okay. That's just a fact of life and perfectly normal.

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              • Bornindamecca
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                • Jul 2007
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                It's not about disagreeing with you. I can only disagree with an actual argument or point. What you're saying doesn't qualify, because you're personifying the entity "EA". You're giving it a personality and sentience that doesn't apply to what you're saying.

                Let me be clear: the function of Electronic Arts does not qualify for the criteria you are setting.

                It's like blaming the NFL for your favorite team's poor draft performance. It just doesn't make sense. The NFL doesn't make those decisions directly, and as an entity, is not part of the problem solving for increased draft performance for particular teams.
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                • bkfount
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                  • Oct 2004
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                  I actually think people overlook Activision and choose to criticize EA more. Who's the company that just went through a giant merger, cutting new and unproven titles in development in favor of continuing to spew out more licensed franchises and endless sequels? No, not EA, Activision.

                  EA has actually shifted to more original IP's, which is amazing given their size and power in the industry. They could have continued to rehash their big franchises, and I personally wouldn't blame them. If that's where the money is, then they're taking a gamble on all the new IP's they're putting out this year alone. I applaud it, and hope it pays off for them.
                  Last edited by bkfount; 08-22-2008, 11:21 AM.

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                  • Bornindamecca
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                    • Jul 2007
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                    #10
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                    Originally posted by bkfount
                    I actually think people overlook Activision and choose to criticize EA more. Who's the company that just went through a giant merger, cutting new and unproven titles in development in favor of continuing to spew out more licensed franchises and endless sequels? No, not EA, Activision.

                    EA has actually shifted to more original IP's, which is amazing given their size and power in the industry. They could have continued to rehash their big franchises, and I personally wouldn't blame them. If that's where the money is, then they're taking a gamble on all the new IP's they're putting out this year alone. I applaud it, and hope it pays off for them.

                    See now that makes sense. Absorbing dev houses, supporting IP's and throwing money behind established franchises is what a company as big as EA does. You can praise or criticize them on that level. Well said.
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                    • Graphik
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 10582

                      #11
                      Re: My thoughts on EA

                      After years and years of EA distain. I dont even give a rats behind anymore. I think that most, if not all of the gaming companies out there are putting out stale rehashes and mediocore games. EA just so happens to get the worst share of negativity because they are sopposedly the largest and top selling developer out of the bunch.

                      Nowadays, I compare EA to companies like Apple, M$, Ford, Chevy, Warner Bros., 20th Century Fox, Disney.....this list can go on and on. Point being, all of the major entertainment industries are so called price gouging, producing yearly crap reshashes and fans, consumers and the like are all getting the same royal treatment from each one respectively.

                      If anyone remembers me around here, I was one of the most outspoken anti-Madden, anti-EA crusaders from these parts. Reason I haven't said much of jack in the last 2 or so years? I finally wised up and put my money where my mouth is and stop supporting crap franchises and I dont feel the need to let everyone know I have a deep rooted loathing for them. Although I guarantee I'll glady return to my soap box if EA continues to purchase up every major sporting league in the world. It hasn't come yet but I'm sure I'll be back.
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                      • Candyman5
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                        IMO I think this years Madden is the best Madden that EA put out in years. I cant remember the last one I actually enjoyed. I have been without NFL Football Games because EA totally screwed them up but this year I will give credit when credit is due.
                        Last edited by Candyman5; 08-22-2008, 12:48 PM.
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                        • allBthere
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                          • Jan 2008
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                          Originally posted by Candyman5
                          IMO I think this years Madden is the best Madden that EA put out in years. I cant remember the last one I actually enjoyed. I have been without NFL Football Games because EA totally screwed them up but this year I will give credit when credit is due.

                          Every new madden should be the best they've EVER done, don't you think? How could a 20 year franchise get worse? The fact that it does is nothing short of amazing.

                          I can't comment on '09 because I realized that I personally don't like madden games. It's that simple- even if it improves greatly, it won't matter to people like me because I don't like how it 'feels' and that never changes. It just doesn't jive with me, it's not their fault, but it's not mine either. I just think the madden gameplay on the field isn't fun or representative of nfl televised football. That could never change when using the same engine, and to an extent the same development team. Imo there is nothing on the field that is excellent, so that all of the elements are just meh to me. It's not satisfying connecting on a bomb or a fade route for example, it just doesn't matter to me. That's why I think madden sucks (to me only)

                          That said, I'll probably pick up HC when it's alone.
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