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  • CaptainZombie
    Brains
    • Jul 2003
    • 37851

    #1

    New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

    I can't find the old thread we had about demos and companies wanting to charge for these. Here is another article. I don't understand how they are comparing Quest For Booty, which is a 3+ hour game that fills a gap in the story and not a demo which you don't find that DLC in the new game..........but EA are talking about charging for demos. If this happens, no way I'm paying to play a demo.

      Bringing demos to the consumer always seems like a solid way of marketing a game, right? Of course. But publishers like EA have considered putting a separate price tag onto their trials, and…


    Bringing demos to the consumer always seems like a solid way of marketing a game, right? Of course. But publishers like EA have considered putting a separate price tag onto their trials, and in turn changing them.

    Talk about this new pricing scheme isn’t new. Back in March, Gamasutra ran an article about EA’s plans to release demos at the tune of $10 to $15, citing these demos as pre-release “Premium Downloadable Content.” Given the price, the plan is to create gameplay experiences larger than the standard demo and along the lines of the size of Battlefield 1943.
    Creating the bait and hook costs more than one would think. With the size and cost of developing a game growing exponentially, so is the cost of creating that free taste that comes with every Arcade or (almost every) retail title. The whole reason behind the idea of PDLC from the developer and publisher prospective is to recoup the money hemorrhaged in the development of said demo. As of now PDLC will be an experiment with retail released games, but it may have its affect on downloadable titles in the future.

    One of the more interesting parts of the aforementioned Gamasutra piece is the way these PDLCs would be presented. In the article Analyst Michael Pachter is quoted as saying, “If DICE were able to follow Battlefield 1943 with a full-blown European WWII campaign game a few months later, it would have been a wild success.” The metamorphosis and blurring of the lines between demo and game is wildly intriguing in the long run.

    This new way of marketing games could be a game changer for XBLA. We could see publishers releasing several-hour long prologues or multiplayer modes for their next big thing. The team at Insomniac has dipped their toe in the water with the release of Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty on PSN in 2008 as a way of getting people into the story and gameplay of the series, and I foresee the same happening in the future with other franchises, not just from EAs library. The “Summer of Arcade” could turn into the “Summer of Games You’ll Buy in the Fall.”

    Are you prepared to drop 800-1200 Microsoft points for Gears of War: Marcus’ Arraignment? I sure as hell am! As long as it makes sense, this concept could leave a less bitter taste in the mouths of consumers. Leave us a comment below of your thoughts on the matter.
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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #2
    Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

    Is this akin to the draft combine type thing?

    If its just a regular demo EA can go jump in the sewers

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #3
      Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

      People used to pay for demos all the time.

      There were included in magazines too.

      But the price they are asking for seems outrageous. I liken this more towards EA's March Madness Tournament downloadable.
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      • NEOPARADIGM
        Banned
        • Jul 2009
        • 2788

        #4
        Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

        I made a post elsewhere defending paid demos, but the price I had in mind was $3-5, not $10-15.

        I'd pay a few extra bucks to get something more than 2-minute quarters in the NCAA demo, for instance. But I'm sure as hell not paying $10+ for ANY demo.

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        • demstix
          Banned
          • Mar 2010
          • 52

          #5
          Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

          the only way i would pay for a demo is if there was some incentive when I actually went to purchase the full version (read "my demo purchase price of $10 equals $10 of credit towards the real game"). Paying to demo software is just something consumers should not do. Software developers do not offer any customer satisfaction guarantee. If you break the seal its yours and you're stuck with it. In the software world consumers take all the risk as far as satisfaction goes. I'm not on board with this.

          here's a thought, implement an accurate budget planning process and account for the costs of developing a demo that way.

          by the way, what's the defense in favor of paid demos?

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          • Cebby
            Banned
            • Apr 2005
            • 22327

            #6
            Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

            Originally posted by Pared
            People used to pay for demos all the time.

            There were included in magazines too.
            People would pay for the demo discs (and things like OPM) but those were about 10 dollars for 10-15 demos (I think OPM was about 8 dollars for ~5 demos but you got the magazine too).

            The only way I could see this working is if for example, the NCAA 2011 demo only had Alabama and Texas, but had full control over settings (including sliders, difficulty, and quarter time) so you could actually see everything about the game.

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            • PAPERNUT
              Gaming Fool.
              • May 2003
              • 1690

              #7
              Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

              If this becomes the new norm, I will find another way to waste my time. It is bad enough we get half the games we buy now due to DL content pulled for a fee. Now this. Not me.
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              • av7
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 11408

                #8
                Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

                Even if it was $3-$5 range, I wont be paying for a demo. I can just watch a broadcast of it somewhere on the internet to see how the game is before deciding if the game is a rental or buy.
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                • bkfount
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 8467

                  #9
                  Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

                  hilarious how a marketing tool is now a luxury. Demos are supposed to convince people, who would otherwise not be interested in your game, to drop money on a product.

                  If companies are complaining about the cost of making a demo, then just don't make one. Feel free to put that money to better use, as plenty of games come out without demos. What's wasteful is giving exclusive demos as preorder bonuses to customers who are already going to buy the game anyways.

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                  • goh
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 20755

                    #10
                    Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

                    I can only see this having them lose more money.
                    Cost for demo = less people try it = less people buy it.

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                    • demstix
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 52

                      #11
                      I really don't care if they charge for them or not. I just know I won't ever pay to demo a game, or any software for that matter. It just seems to me that it could have a negative impact on game sales.

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                      • mkharsh33
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 12770

                        #12
                        Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

                        I've never even played a demo... Probably in a small minority, but I just read what others say from them and go from there.

                        As much money as the gaming industry is making, this is like the proverbial middle finger to their loyal consumers. But people will pay for them, that's for sure.
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                        • luv_mist
                          Older
                          • May 2004
                          • 9596

                          #13
                          Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

                          Have you guys noticed how stupid people have been becoming as this world turns? That's almost like paying extra in a movie theater to see a trailer. You want my money, cater to my wallet in a sensible way. Don't try to get an extra buck out of me if it's not worth it. I liked the Draft Combine thing because it went towards improving the game I was planning on purchasing later on. A multi-player aspect sounds very great in my opinion if it's worth it. I don't see how I'd pay for something like Dante's Inferno demo though when it wasn't even appealing to me in the first place.

                          One thing I'm going to point out though is that EA does have a few heavy hitters on their side now which is going to make this quite interesting. This is only with EA for right now though. What I want to know is why so many of these companies are "losing" money? Are they not breaking even when they release these games? Someone isn't doing their financial job properly if you ask me. I want to see some freaking charts of their finances before I hear crap about this mess. Too many greedy suits looking to improve their wallet cushion if you ask me.......

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                          • Skyboxer
                            Donny Baseball!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 20302

                            #14
                            Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

                            There's only one demo I plan on paying for........
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                            • Pokes
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 4538

                              #15
                              Re: New Pricing for Demos Could Change XBLA Games in a Big Way

                              I sure won't pay for a demo.
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