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  • LingeringRegime
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jun 2007
    • 17089

    #196
    Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

    Originally posted by mKoz26
    Bad players will often have games with high amounts of kills and higher amounts of deaths. i.e. 10-20. This is because they run around without any bit of strategy. But you're asking to give them the same rewards as someone who goes 10-2. That's ridiculous. I think the idiots running around with tac knives (who would be rewarded in your situation) are just as bad as campers if not worse, because although they get a high number of kills, they don't help their teams one bit. People with skill can take out campers by checking corners and being aware of their surroundings, but guys running around going crazy are getting kills based on random luck.
    You make a valid point there about people just running around being the same as corner campers. At this point I really don't think much of anything has been confirmed in regards to the Killstreak setup. I was just reading the Black Ops Forums and pretty much everything is speculation. There have been some confirmations on the perks though. Commando Perk and OMA will be gone, Jugg is back but less effective, Cold-Blooded will be back also. Looking forward to September 1st for some more concrete info.
    Last edited by LingeringRegime; 08-11-2010, 09:33 AM.

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    • Speedy
      #Ace
      • Apr 2008
      • 16143

      #197
      Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

      If they want to do only 3 KS per player per game that's fine...just remove the Nuke and make the Chopper either less effective or the new 25-kill streak.
      Originally posted by Gibson88
      Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
      It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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      • sven
        Banned
        • Jul 2002
        • 6021

        #198
        Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

        Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
        Anything that will get people out of the corners of rooms and force them to actually make an effort to find someone to kill is a great idea.
        Is this something people actually have a problem with? I've got almost 4000 matches in and I have encountered maybe 100 real campers in all my playtime. I must be the luckiest person on the planet.

        Originally posted by Speedy
        If they want to do only 3 KS per player per game that's fine...just remove the Nuke and make the Chopper either less effective or the new 25-kill streak.
        I heard they only go up to 15 this time but killstreaks no longer add to your killstreak.
        Last edited by sven; 08-11-2010, 12:56 PM.

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        • Speedy
          #Ace
          • Apr 2008
          • 16143

          #199
          Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

          Originally posted by sven
          Is this something people actually have a problem with? I've got almost 4000 matches in and I have encountered maybe 100 real campers in all my playtime. I must be the luckiest person on the planet.
          That's what happens when you have the Marathon/Lightweight/Ninja Pro enabled...they can't get you fast enough.
          Originally posted by Gibson88
          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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          • LingeringRegime
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 17089

            #200
            Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

            Originally posted by sven
            Is this something people actually have a problem with? I've got almost 4000 matches in and I have encountered maybe 100 real campers in all my playtime. I must be the luckiest person on the planet.
            Or I must be the unluckiest.

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            • Trevelyan
              MVP
              • Oct 2003
              • 1047

              #201
              Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

              Originally posted by Candyman5
              No thats called being an *censored*. Killing someone as soon as they spawn is seriously cheap. It should auto kill you and make you wait 2 minutes before respawning if done over and over again. (IMO) Just like in GRAW where people would run straight to your spawn, get into a spot behind you and just kill away. No skill and ********.
              I probably should have described spawn trapping to avoid confusion, its not what you're talking about. bigw0lt did a good job of giving you an example, if you're playing TDM or Dom on Highrise, and you never go inside the windows of their building, and defend all the exits (3 top windows, bottom doorway), they are now spawn trapped. That doesn't mean I'm shooting them the second they pop up, because you can't get that view. It means I'm not allowing the game any other option in terms of spawns other than that side of the map, because thats the way they built the game, it always wants to spawn you with teammates.

              Also, the idea of only getting your killstreaks once and the killstreaks carrying over between deaths may sound great to some of you right now, (I don't understand why personally...) but these are the type of things that will ruin the game when combined with other ideas. Go look at MW2 if you need an example. Almost anything that frustrates you in that game, or makes you feel like a death wasn't your fault(which is the crappiest way to die), likely doesn't stand on its own, its combined with something else.

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              • BlueNGold
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 21817

                #202
                Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                Originally posted by Trevelyan
                I probably should have described spawn trapping to avoid confusion, its not what you're talking about. bigw0lt did a good job of giving you an example, if you're playing TDM or Dom on Highrise, and you never go inside the windows of their building, and defend all the exits (3 top windows, bottom doorway), they are now spawn trapped. That doesn't mean I'm shooting them the second they pop up, because you can't get that view. It means I'm not allowing the game any other option in terms of spawns other than that side of the map, because thats the way they built the game, it always wants to spawn you with teammates.

                Also, the idea of only getting your killstreaks once and the killstreaks carrying over between deaths may sound great to some of you right now, (I don't understand why personally...) but these are the type of things that will ruin the game when combined with other ideas. Go look at MW2 if you need an example. Almost anything that frustrates you in that game, or makes you feel like a death wasn't your fault(which is the crappiest way to die), likely doesn't stand on its own, its combined with something else.
                Yeah. I really don't know why someone at Treyarch thought it was a good idea to remove the actual streaks from killstreaks. I mean seriously, what is the point of them anymore if all you have to do is get 3 kills, even if you die a ****load of times in between.
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                • Randiesel75
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 426

                  #203
                  Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                  Originally posted by BlueNGold
                  Yeah. I really don't know why someone at Treyarch thought it was a good idea to remove the actual streaks from killstreaks. I mean seriously, what is the point of them anymore if all you have to do is get 3 kills, even if you die a ****load of times in between.
                  This makes no sense, are we sure we are reading this correct? How can a killstreak not involve a streak. If so, when does the streak actually end?

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                  • sven
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6021

                    #204
                    Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                    Originally posted by Randiesel
                    This makes no sense, are we sure we are reading this correct? How can a killstreak not involve a streak. If so, when does the streak actually end?
                    No we aren't sure at all. It was just speculation from myself and a few others based on vague bullet point about killstreaks not resetting. It could mean anything really.

                    Also the no perks\no killstreak mode sounds awesome but only if there is a TDM only version.

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                    • SinisterAlex
                      Canadian eh?
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4551

                      #205
                      Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                      Originally posted by sven
                      No we aren't sure at all. It was just speculation from myself and a few others based on vague bullet point about killstreaks not resetting. It could mean anything really.

                      Also the no perks\no killstreak mode sounds awesome but only if there is a TDM only version.
                      I've heard that you get 3 killstreaks and you can only earn each ONCE in one game. So say if you have a UAV, Care Package, and Predator Missle. You can only use those ONCE in a game and once you earn them, they can't be earned again. But the stacking doesn't apply, so you have to get the extra kill(s) to get the next killstreak.

                      This is what would make sense to me.
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                      • MrChainsaw
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1430

                        #206
                        Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                        A no perks mode would be incredible.

                        That one playlist alone would be enough for me to cave in and get this game.
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                        • sven
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6021

                          #207
                          Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                          Originally posted by AtomicLegend
                          I've heard that you get 3 killstreaks and you can only earn each ONCE in one game. So say if you have a UAV, Care Package, and Predator Missle. You can only use those ONCE in a game and once you earn them, they can't be earned again. But the stacking doesn't apply, so you have to get the extra kill(s) to get the next killstreak.

                          This is what would make sense to me.
                          Yeah that makes a lot more sense. I'd be very happy with that.

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                          • Jonesy
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 5382

                            #208
                            Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                            Originally posted by MrChainsaw
                            A no perks mode would be incredible.

                            That one playlist alone would be enough for me to cave in and get this game.
                            yeah that would be great. I don't want all these perks / streaks etc. I just want a bunch of people on a level playing field trying to shoot each other.

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                            • bukktown
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3257

                              #209
                              Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                              I don't care what they do with this game as long as I can OMA noobtoob from a second story window from across the map, then I am good!

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                              • Pete1210
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 3277

                                #210
                                Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                                Originally posted by sven
                                Also the no perks\no killstreak mode sounds awesome
                                Had no intention of buying this game, but might if they added that mode for multipalyer.

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