Dead Bodies Disappearing

[youvalss]

I find it really annoying that some games have dead bodies disappearing. It just takes away from my joy, makes the game really arcadish, to me.

Does anyone here feel the same?

[Munkey]

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if they didnt, there would probably be frame rate issues in the long run

[Bellsprout]

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If they disappear almost right away it annoys me. It was something I noticed when playing Medal of Honor: Frontline.

But if everyone I killed in Red Dead Redemption's bodies were just laying there the entire game it'd be weird. Because that's a lot of people. Or zombies now, as it were.

[youvalss]

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Well, maybe not in this kind of games (zombies) where you kill 50 every 10 minutes, but take for example The Godfather. I'd really like to play it, but whenever I watch walkthrough videos and I see bodies disappearing - and the weapon sits there blinking...it just turns me off. Sounds stupid, I know, but it's important to me.

[Whitesox]

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Medieval II: Total War (and perhaps the Total War series in general) is a game that sticks out in my mind in which the bodies don't disappear.

[Klocker]

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maybe when we have consoles with 2 or 4 GB or RAM it ill no longer be an issue. As it stands, amount of RAM is the cause of nearly every shortcoming we currently see in development across the board.

[Burns11]

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It will always be an issue no matter how much ram or how powerful a GPU is because you always want the character models to be as detailed as possible. It's a balancing act, you want enemies to be detailed, but you want to have multiple enemies on screen and you want frame rates to be acceptable. The bodies have to disappear or the frame rates would drop as the bodies start to pile up.

I do agree that some games take the bodies disappearing to a ridiculous level, they should stick around until it's at least not completely obvious, and the Godfather example is fairly unacceptable in a mostly realistic game.

[allBthere]

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maybe when we have consoles with 2 or 4 GB or RAM it ill no longer be an issue. As it stands, amount of RAM is the cause of nearly every shortcoming we currently see in development across the board.

Oblivion left enemies what seemed like forever in the same place - and naked if you took their armour lol.

I agree with the OP, it's always bothered me even back in the old-school. If they disappear, I dont' want to notice it.

This is along the same lines as bullet holes - some games don't or didn't have them...i remember being so happy that max payne had them in the walls and that even dust would fall from them.

[Goffs]

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Fallout 3 has consistent dead bodies...unless you kill someone in the desert then the body is pretty much food for the creatures that roam the wasteland...

[Klocker]

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Oblivion left enemies what seemed like forever in the same place - and naked if you took their armour lol.

I agree with the OP, it's always bothered me even back in the old-school. If they disappear, I dont' want to notice it.

This is along the same lines as bullet holes - some games don't or didn't have them...i remember being so happy that max payne had them in the walls and that even dust would fall from them.

Yes, large open world game with limited number of bodies (compared to a game like AC where there are hundreds of people populating the world around you taking up the RAM) and those save states of bodies (in FO3 and Oblivion) are saved to hard drive and loaded and accounted for in RAM due to the limited number of NPCs in the world.

as noted above, with the limited amount of RAM in these consoles (and all consoles in the future) it is always a trade off of resources. that's why when people say, "hey why can't the game do this or that? we did it last gen?" they are usually ignoring increased assets and expectations in other areas on a limited amount of resources and at this point in time a PALTRY amount of RAM. these machines are pushing limits IMO and I'm amazed they can do what they do with only~ 512MB RAM.

Regardless of Disc size, Hard drive size processor speed, whatever, you are always limited to what you can see or do on screen at any given moment by RAM.

[youvalss]

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I was watching Kane and Lynch 2 walkthrough videos, and noticed that bodies aren't disappearing there. And it adds realism to the game. Can't imagine this game with disappearing bodies.