Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

[CaptainZombie]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I started playing MGS2 last night and boy does the gameplay feel so archaic and just doesn't hold up well at all with the fixed camera. Both MGS3 and Peace Walker have had the benefits of a rotating camera which helps out a whole lot. As excited as I originally was for this set, I feel a bit underwhelmed and not sure what it is. A lot of it could be too how well MGS4 took that old formula and refined it with modern day controls and adding more elements. I'd love a remake of MGS 1 and 2 using the MGS4 engine, who knows whats going on with Rising.

BTW, does Peace Walker have to be played co-op online or can it also be played co-op on one console? That's disheartening on bc's comments that its nearly impossible to play SP.

[DJ]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I'll Co-Op with you guys too, I played PW on PSP so I have a pretty good idea of what to do against the bosses (suffered many, many deaths trying to take them on solo, though).

The forced co-op is why I stayed away from Peace Walker. I don't get why they would do something like that. I know that you can play through the game single-player, but it's extremely difficult.

[Scott]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

This is on my queue list on gamefly. Never played the original.

[bcruise]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I started playing MGS2 last night and boy does the gameplay feel so archaic and just doesn't hold up well at all with the fixed camera. Both MGS3 and Peace Walker have had the benefits of a rotating camera which helps out a whole lot. As excited as I originally was for this set, I feel a bit underwhelmed and not sure what it is. A lot of it could be too how well MGS4 took that old formula and refined it with modern day controls and adding more elements. I'd love a remake of MGS 1 and 2 using the MGS4 engine, who knows whats going on with Rising.

BTW, does Peace Walker have to be played co-op online or can it also be played co-op on one console? That's disheartening on bc's comments that its nearly impossible to play SP.

I believe it's online co-op only.

I wouldn't say the MP is forced, but it can be difficult and a bit tedious when going solo. I got through the first 7 boss battles of the game by myself on the PSP (had no chioce since it was ad-hoc), so I know it's possible. I'd imagine it will be a whole lot easier on the consoles due to having a right stick - camera woes were probably my biggest issue with the PSP version (you had to control it with the face buttons!)

There's a few things you're going to want to do if you want to go it alone, though:

Use the radio: Obvious enough, but you'll get some helpful hints on the enemies weak points either by your team members calling you or by you calling them.

Rations, food, etc. - Have one equipped at all times, bosses can chew up your life very quickly. Also, try to develop as many different kinds as possible, because you have a limit on how much of each you can carry. The more different kinds you have, the more life recovery you'll ultimately have.

Improve your teams: Remember who you are: You're the leader of a armed group in this game, with an entire staff to back you. As you go deeper into the game, you'll be asked to assign the personnel you recover to teams. A big part of this game is using the R&D team to create new weapons and items for you. Not just new, but improved ones, too. Better rations that recover more life, for example. One other team plays a big role in your battles, and I'm going touch on that one now...

Intel Team/Support: During the big fights later in the game, you are going to run out of ammo, especially for explosive-type weapons. This is where the supply request marker is invaluable. You can carry a limited number of these into the field, and when you place one a few seconds later some ammo, rations, etc. drop from the sky. Your Intel team is what determines how many items drop, so create a good team there and you'll have a much larger ammunition supply at your disposal.

In addition, there are multiple ways to beat some of these fights, usually depending on whether you destroy the vehicle or not. If you can win the fight without destroying the vehicle, you gain control of it and can deploy it on side "outer ops" missions later in the game. For example, on the first big fight...

Spoiler

If you kill off all the soliders around the LAV, eventually it will deploy more. Kill them and continue this process, and eventually the captain will pop out of the LAV's hatch. Kill him, and the mission ends. The other alternative, of course, is to take a LAW into the fight and just blow the thing skyhigh. You'll probably run out of ammo though, and there's no supply drop item this early in the game. It might soften it up enough for you to take it out with the assault rifle, but it'll still be close on ammo.

Any question, ask me - I'm far from an expert at PW, but I did at least get through most of the game (and it's not like anything in the game stopped me - I just kind of quit playing).

[DJ]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I believe it's online co-op only.

I wouldn't say the MP is forced, but it can be difficult and a bit tedious when going solo. I got through the first 7 boss battles of the game by myself on the PSP (had no chioce since it was ad-hoc), so I know it's possible. I'd imagine it will be a whole lot easier on the consoles due to having a right stick - camera woes were probably my biggest issue with the PSP version (you had to control it with the face buttons!)

There's a few things you're going to want to do if you want to go it alone, though:

Use the radio: Obvious enough, but you'll get some helpful hints on the enemies weak points either by your team members calling you or by you calling them.

Rations, food, etc. - Have one equipped at all times, bosses can chew up your life very quickly. Also, try to develop as many different kinds as possible, because you have a limit on how much of each you can carry. The more different kinds you have, the more life recovery you'll ultimately have.

Improve your teams: Remember who you are: You're the leader of a armed group in this game, with an entire staff to back you. As you go deeper into the game, you'll be asked to assign the personnel you recover to teams. A big part of this game is using the R&D team to create new weapons and items for you. Not just new, but improved ones, too. Better rations that recover more life, for example. One other team plays a big role in your battles, and I'm going touch on that one now...

Intel Team/Support: During the big fights later in the game, you are going to run out of ammo, especially for explosive-type weapons. This is where the supply request marker is invaluable. You can carry a limited number of these into the field, and when you place one a few seconds later some ammo, rations, etc. drop from the sky. Your Intel team is what determines how many items drop, so create a good team there and you'll have a much larger ammunition supply at your disposal.

In addition, there are multiple ways to beat some of these fights, usually depending on whether you destroy the vehicle or not. If you can win the fight without destroying the vehicle, you gain control of it and can deploy it on side "outer ops" missions later in the game. For example, on the first big fight...

Spoiler

If you kill off all the soliders around the LAV, eventually it will deploy more. Kill them and continue this process, and eventually the captain will pop out of the LAV's hatch. Kill him, and the mission ends. The other alternative, of course, is to take a LAW into the fight and just blow the thing skyhigh. You'll probably run out of ammo though, and there's no supply drop item this early in the game. It might soften it up enough for you to take it out with the assault rifle, but it'll still be close on ammo.

Any question, ask me - I'm far from an expert at PW, but I did at least get through most of the game (and it's not like anything in the game stopped me - I just kind of quit playing).

Would you say the PSP version is worth a purchase? I'm thinking of picking this or Portable Ops up (never played that one, either) for my trip to Florida in a couple of weeks.

[bcruise]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

Would you say the PSP version is worth a purchase? I'm thinking of picking this or Portable Ops up (never played that one, either) for my trip to Florida in a couple of weeks.

Never played Portable Ops. As for Peace Walker, it was definitely worth a purchase to me on the PSP back when it first came out. IIRC, the only reason I didn't finish it was because of other big games coming out around the same time (Star Ocean 4 and Final Fantasy XIII) - it just kind of got pushed onto the back burner. I was actually going to jump back into it a few months ago and finish, but that's around the time news broke about this HD collection and that PW was involved.

I would say that if you already have this HD collection (not sure if you do or not), the only reason you might want to also get it on PSP would be the ability to transfer your game saves back and forth between the systems - I believe that this is the first PSP/PS3 game to allow that. I tried that with my old PSP file and it worked perfectly, just be aware that it's not a copy system - it deletes the file off one system when it moves to the other. No idea why they did that....

Other than that, the PS3 version blows the PSP one away. From the controls to the graphics to the framerate, everything is improved. The game is still good on the PSP, but you may not want to play it on there again after playing the HD version.

[LivingLegend]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

Would you say the PSP version is worth a purchase? I'm thinking of picking this or Portable Ops up (never played that one, either) for my trip to Florida in a couple of weeks.

I would get it for PSP too. That way you can take it on the road with you and use the recruit feature as you drive around.

It's kind of funny too, for some strange reason when I used it I always got S ranked cooks in front or inside of grocery stores. And I always got S ranked med team in front of or in hospitals......

It's like the PSP knew where I was.

[ScoobySnax]

You how they make you adjust your screen when you first boot it up? Is there a way to do this again. I screwed it up and my picture is off. Should I delete the game data?

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[bcruise]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

You how they make you adjust your screen when you first boot it up? Is there a way to do this again. I screwed it up and my picture is off. Should I delete the game data?

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Should be in an option screen somewhere, each game has a video calibration screen like that. I'll fire up the game and check.

Edit: Yeah...for Peace Walker it's under Extras on the title screen. MGS2/3 only have brightness calibration screens, not screen area - PW's the only one that has that.

[CaptainZombie]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I started running through MGS2 again after a few days of not playing this and crazy to think how much people **** on this game because Snake wasn't in the second half as a playable character. Raiden is not bad at all, now nowhere near badass as Snake. When I originally bought this on PS2, I never finished it as the Gamecube (yes, the Gamecube) released the same week and got occupied with that at the time.

After MGR, I'd love for Kojima to reboot this franchise starting with the original Metal Gear and get this series back on track as it kind of lost it's way with the convoluted story.

[Polo Bandit]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I started running through MGS2 again after a few days of not playing this and crazy to think how much people **** on this game because Snake wasn't in the second half as a playable character. Raiden is not bad at all, now nowhere near badass as Snake. When I originally bought this on PS2, I never finished it as the Gamecube (yes, the Gamecube) released the same week and got occupied with that at the time.

After MGR, I'd love for Kojima to reboot this franchise starting with the original Metal Gear and get this series back on track as it kind of lost it's way with the convoluted story.

I've been hoping for a 3D remake of the original Metal Gear 1 and 2 games. I guess I wouldn't mind seeing Snakes Revenge as well. Even though it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the games, it's still not that bad.

[DJ]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I started running through MGS2 again after a few days of not playing this and crazy to think how much people **** on this game because Snake wasn't in the second half as a playable character. Raiden is not bad at all, now nowhere near badass as Snake. When I originally bought this on PS2, I never finished it as the Gamecube (yes, the Gamecube) released the same week and got occupied with that at the time.

After MGR, I'd love for Kojima to reboot this franchise starting with the original Metal Gear and get this series back on track as it kind of lost it's way with the convoluted story.

I think it was the haircut and how whiny Raiden was that threw some people off. Personally, I didn't have a problem with it and understood (somewhat) the story Kojima was trying to tell with the character.

I have these games on the PS2, so I'm not sure if it's worth the upgrade just for HD.

[trobinson97]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I think it was the haircut and how whiny Raiden was that threw some people off. Personally, I didn't have a problem with it and understood (somewhat) the story Kojima was trying to tell with the character.

I loved MGS2, played it though many times but I sitll don't understand the story he was trying to tell through Raiden. Could you please explain it to me?

[Polo Bandit]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

I tried to play Peace Walker last night. The cut scenes are excessive, even for a Metal Gear game. And what irritates me the most, you can't crawl??? grrr

[Crossover1]

re: Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (PS3/Vita/360)

Just got it. MGS is my favorite game series of all time. Gonna give MGS2 a run first since I havent played that one in YEARS.