Destiny

[ChubbyBanana]

Re: Destiny

Not a blanket reduction. It's only after a wipe during missions. Basically to stop people from cliff diving in certain missions to restart at a large spawn point. It was popular before the cave was found.

Bungie really doesn't want me to enjoy this game anymore do they? Don't get me wrong I don't mind crucible but sometimes it's nice to switch it up and get some gear other ways.

If they'd just fix strikes so there was some sort of guaranteed loot I'd play those more to throw in variety.

"It's not how we envisioned Destiny to be enjoyed."

Funny, Destiny in it's current state isn't how I expected it to be enjoyed either.

[Burns11]

Re: Destiny

Is it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9PpDdoWzQc
I was doing it today to get relic iron, it seemed to work good for me.

Yeah, that's it.

With all these nerfs, I might have to just stop playing. Even with the loot cave I was barely getting any rewards, now I feel like I won't get **** for my efforts. Now Queen's equipment won't give mats, what's the point? Last night I got one upgrade then three chest armors, if I wasn't getting materials I would have been pissed. Since I don't like PVP, all I got is strikes until I hit the limit (which isn't long) then bounties then I'm just spinning my wheels.

[brandon27]

Re: Destiny

RIP Loot Cave. We hardly knew you.

Full patch notes:

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Summary
In Hotfix 5, we made a few changes to reduce the effectiveness of a humbling number of economy exploits. Check out these Destiny Dev Notes to read a summary of our impressions since launch.

Activities

Missions
Reduced drop rate of engrams following a hard wipe [fixed in 1.0.1.4]

Queen's Wrath Event
Material rewards for dismantling Queen's Wrath gear will no longer provide ascendant materials, but missions will continue to drop Legendary items

World

Destinations
The Hive of the holy “Treasure Cave” have realized the futility of their endless assault on Skywatch and have retired to lick their wounds and plan their next attack.
Respawn timers for monster caves in Skywatch have been normalized to 40 seconds (increased from 6)
Respawn timers for monster caves in Forgotten Shore have been normalized to 40 seconds (increased from 10)
Respawn timers for monster caves in Ember Caves have been normalized to 40 seconds (increased from 10)
Respawn timers for monster caves in the Shattered Coast have been normalized to 40 seconds (increased from 10)
Respawn timers for monster caves in the Barrens have been normalized to 40 seconds (increased from 20)

BOOO!!!!

[ChubbyBanana]

Re: Destiny

Yeah, that's it.

With all these nerfs, I might have to just stop playing. Even with the loot cave I was barely getting any rewards, now I feel like I won't get **** for my efforts. Now Queen's equipment won't give mats, what's the point? Last night I got one upgrade then three chest armors, if I wasn't getting materials I would have been pissed. Since I don't like PVP, all I got is strikes until I hit the limit (which isn't long) then bounties then I'm just spinning my wheels.

Exactly. I fear I'll be spinning wheels soon also until there's new content. I don't mind PVP but don't want to play it everytime I play Destiny.

[Mabster]

Re: Destiny

Queen's missions being pointless now reduces the things I'll do on a daily basis now.

Back to just a daily mission, a few bounties, and grinding vanguard strikes til maxed marks for the week. I was already starting to get bored of that. Queen was fun for a few days but now they've removed most if that.

[Mabster]

Re: Destiny

The future:

http://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Dev-Notes/en/News/News?aid=12188

Spoiled for length.

Spoiler

On September 9th the Bungie team traded late nights building Destiny for late nights playing Destiny with all of you. We'd looked forward to that day for years, knowing that it would bring millions of fresh eyes into our world and quickly change many of our plans and priorities. We were not disappointed.

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In the last two weeks there have been many surprises, bugs, exploits, world firsts, and a whole lot of fun. It's been an amazing time. We think now is a great time to step back and let you all know how we think the game is holding up and to talk about some changes we are contemplating going forward.


We will be patching some of these issues as early as today. Others may not be addressed for a month or two. Stay tuned for updates and thank you for all your feedback online.


Loot


He Who Shall Not Be Named

Long ago during development, the Cryptarch decoded engrams of a given color into gear of that same color. Early in 2014 we added randomness, both for better and worse, to the decrypting process. The result was that end-of-session engram decoding got a lot more exciting and the Cryptarch himself suddenly acquired a personality. Both of these experiences were positive additions to the game.

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But we didn't adequately communicate the potential random outcomes of decryption. Players see what looks like the familiar metaphor of item identification, while the Cryptarch thinks he's opening a grab bag of loot. Rage sharding of blues ensues. Expect to see changes to address this soon.


Destiny: The Cave

The social experience of a cave farming run is amazing: the herding to get a team of Guardians all behind the line and firing in the right direction, the rush to grab the loot, the scramble when the panic wave starts, the beckoning glow from inside the cave. The speed at which the community organized around this activity was inspiring and humbling to us.

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But shooting at a black hole for hours on end isn't our dream for how Destiny is played. Our hope is that social engagement in public spaces is only one part of the Destiny experience. Expect changes soon which decrease the efficiency of cave farming and correspondingly increase engram drops from completing activities.


Reward Celebration

Growing more powerful by acquiring new upgrades, gear or progression is central to Destiny's player experience. Our goal is to always celebrate when this occurs, both as a reward in and of itself and to communicate to players what is going on.

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During development we sometimes prioritized making a system functional over celebrating its rewards, for example:

The Vault of Glass contains highly coveted loot but the actual moment of reward happens without fanfare and can be easily missed.
The lowest level of the Daily Heroic gives great XP and Reputation rewards, but neither of these progressions appears on the postgame screen.

We will slowly be addressing these and other issues going forward.

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Social

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Voice Communication

Our vision for Destiny is that all players, even matchmade players in the Crucible, Strikes, the Tower or public spaces, be able to communicate with one another in a way that promotes positive socialization. Voice communication is the easy answer, but existing voice paradigms, including those in our own Halo games, have not done enough to protect players from abusive griefing from a minority of players.

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Destiny's near-term solution will be to allow players to opt-in to voice communication during matchmade activities. Work on this feature was underway at launch and should be rolled out this year in Strikes and the Crucible.

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Activities

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Strikes

Strikes are intended to be a fun, combat-filled romp and stomp with a big boss and cool rewards at the end. Better with cooperation, but doable in a pick up group.

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Since launch we've tracked down an issue which has made Strikes more challenging than originally designed by both increasing damage taken by players and decreasing the damage inflicted by players on the boss. Expect to see this addressed soon, and for Strikes to become a little less grindy as a result (sorry, Raiders - incoming damage is working as intended in the Vault of Glass).*

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Balance

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Our goal when balancing Destiny is to never have one player choice-- for example a choice of class or weapon-- either be so much better than the alternatives that it is the only valid choice or to be so much worse that it would always be a mistake to choose. When we are successful with this kind of balance the result is a wide set of equally compelling player builds, some of which may be preferred by one player or another but none of which is an absolute right or wrong choice.

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Exotic Weapons

Exotic Weapons are designed to look, feel and sound overpowered, but to not actually break the game. We hope these weapons challenge the way players think about their loadouts and expect their idiosyncrasies to sometimes be a little frustrating. We find ourselves wanting to collect them all and hope players feel the same way.

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Not all our Exotic Weapons currently live up to this promise. In particular those weapons received from completing exotic bounties including Thorn and Bad Juju have disappointed many of us who have gone through the great effort to obtain them because, despite looking and sounding amazing, they feel underpowered. We're here to offer some advice: don't shard those guns. Their time will come.

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Auto Rifles

The Auto Rifle archetype is designed to appeal to players who like to throw up a wall of bullets and not worry if a few miss their target. It is intended to inflict sustained damage at close to medium range, but to lose effectiveness at longer ranges.

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Today the Auto Rifle is too effective at long range, even beating Scout and Pulse Rifles in some circumstances. Expect stability and/or damage adjustments to the Auto Rifle to address this in the weeks ahead.*

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Scout Rifles

Scout Rifles are for players who like to keep their enemies at medium range and hate to miss. They are intended to be an awkward weapon to use at close range but to be dominant-- as long as you land your shots-- at medium and longer ranges.

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Scouts just aren't hitting hard enough today when compared to other precision weapons. We'll be addressing this soon.

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Shotguns

Shotguns are for those situations where you need to deliver a massive spike of damage, right now, to the thing standing next to you about to do you harm.*

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Today shotguns are effective beyond their intended range, especially when upgraded with that intention. Expect changes soon to address shotguns which push the envelope of what it means to be close quarters.



Thank you for helping us drive these changes. Keep sharing. Keep talking. We’re watching and listening.


--Bungie

[thedudedominick]

Re: Destiny

The future:

http://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Dev-Notes/en/News/News?aid=12188

Spoiled for length.

Spoiler

The adjustments to the weapons sounds like exactly what is needed.

[Burns11]

Re: Destiny

This whole "going forward" thing gives me no sense that they are going to make the game fun anytime soon. If they think getting legendary engrams for them all to just turn into blues is "fun" we have disparately different definitions of fun. Decoding engrams would be fun if it was "let's see what awesome thing I will get", instead it's just turned into "I'll just mash my x button then sell off all the useless ****". That's not fun, it's a chore. The Cryptarch's "personality" was creating by some guy on twitter making fun of how ****ty their engram system was in the game. That they don't see that, makes me believe they are blind to what's going on in their own game.

[DTX3]

Re: Destiny

If I join a faction does that pretty much make my vanguard marks useless if I'm not ranked higher than 1? I'm tore between ranking up my faction rep and vanguard as I hardly play crucible


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[jwilphl]

Re: Destiny

If I join a faction does that pretty much make my vanguard marks useless if I'm not ranked higher than 1? I'm tore between ranking up my faction rep and vanguard as I hardly play crucible


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Any Vanguard rep points you would get while a member of a faction instead go directly to leveling up your Faction rank. You can't level up both Vanguard and a faction at the same time, unfortunately. It really depends on what gear you're looking for; check the vendors and see which is most appealing to you.

I'm level 2 for my faction, but I realize I have all these Vanguard marks and very few Crucible marks, so I can't actually buy anything. My Vanguard rank is still 0. Now I have to grind the multiplayer before I can even buy any gear. This was my own fault for not realizing earlier how the system worked.

[Flawless]

Re: Destiny

I'm not sure what you even do with the loot in this game, because there simply isn't much of it. Nobody's "telling stories" as Bungie envisioned prior to release. There's no exotic drops as seen in the E3 2013 demo.

[CubFan23]

Re: Destiny

I hate that the Faction items are linked to the crucible. I hate the crucible and don't play at all.

[TracerBullet]

Re: Destiny

I finally got my character to level 26 yesterday... now I have no desire to play. I'm glad some of you are getting a ton of enjoyment, but for me there just isn't enough variety in this game to want to keep playing it much longer.

I see some potential in the future for it, but right now I'm just not feeling it all that much. Also it seems like the potential I see could also be pretty limited depending on what Bungie does.

They're obviously going to open up more locations, but will they be bigger or more fun to explore? Are the missions in the update actually going to be something else other than glorified horde modes? Sounds like they are making the PvP better, but at the same time it's still kind of dry.

I don't feel like working my *** off through some super difficult challenge just to see the engram I get turn into a weapon/armor to break down just for parts and not even the rarer parts at that.

Much like Burns and Flawless said, their going forward message doesn't really sound like they're going in the right direction.

They don't want people to shoot in a cave for an hour, but they want people to do the same tired missions over and over with a new title thrown on it just to get loot that probably won't be worth much. What's the difference?

All-in-all after a few weeks, I'm still pretty disappointed in this game even after my expectations lowered when they showed the first gameplay video. I've felt this way twice this year with AAA non-sports games that had a lot of hype.

[Flawless]

Re: Destiny

I hate that the Faction items are linked to the crucible. I hate the crucible and don't play at all.

Vanguard rep will level them up, but those Vanguard marks, they aren't welcomed here!

If only you could buy another piece of Faction armor to convert marks, as it does rep.

[JBH3]

Re: Destiny

I don't know who bungie listens to. Do they have focus groups? There message boards are a mess, but some of it is validated.

I guess I expected exploration from Mass effect taken to a whole new level I could only imagine, and customization like skyrims skill tree but what we get is what many outlets have stated already...a jack of all trades but a master of none.

EDIT: Wanted to add...why in the hell is the space that opened up in the tower where the queens agent is so wide open and big but there's just ONE thing to do. I was looking forward to that part opening up and once it did it was so anti-climactic that it makes pessimistic about any other area in the tower opening up.