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  • Burns11
    Greatness Has Arrived
    • Mar 2007
    • 7406

    #7321
    Re: Destiny

    Yeah, I'm jealous

    I congratulated you and said bye after, but didn't realize until I logged off that my mic was muted

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    • fishepa
      I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
      • Feb 2003
      • 18989

      #7322
      Re: Destiny

      Originally posted by Burns11
      Yeah, I'm jealous

      I congratulated you and said bye after, but didn't realize until I logged off that my mic was muted
      He's lying! He was jealous and pissed off!

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      • N51_rob
        Faceuary!
        • Jul 2003
        • 14805

        #7323
        Re: Destiny

        Originally posted by Burns11
        Yeah, I'm jealous

        I congratulated you and said bye after, but didn't realize until I logged off that my mic was muted
        I had my mic off two we had workers in the house. Thanks for the help though, I died earlier when I forgot about the second band of invisible vandals. If you are around my group may be helping some lvl 28 friends on Crota.

        P.S. I literally think paint dries faster than this update downloads.
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        • Kearnzo
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 5963

          #7324
          Re: Destiny

          Originally posted by N51_rob
          Burns!!!! Thanks for the help today brother. Got my hawkmoon!
          Have fun with it man! Still my favorite gun in the game.

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          • Burns11
            Greatness Has Arrived
            • Mar 2007
            • 7406

            #7325
            Re: Destiny

            Originally posted by N51_rob
            I had my mic off two we had workers in the house. Thanks for the help though, I died earlier when I forgot about the second band of invisible vandals. If you are around my group may be helping some lvl 28 friends on Crota.

            P.S. I literally think paint dries faster than this update downloads.
            What time? I'll be around, if I'm not on you can send me a PSN message and hopefully I get an alert. After the most recent PS app update it wasn't notifying me anymore, I uninstalled and reinstalled but haven't checked if it worked.

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            • Kearnzo
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 5963

              #7326
              Re: Destiny

              On second thought with regards to no raid, I'm personally kind of excited for the Prison of Elders. Me and my friends typically never have enough online for a raid, and if the rewards are decent, it'll be nice to have a new game mode.

              I just hope it's implemented well. I need something to bring me back in. New DLC is always exciting. I just hope it can hold me over until Comet.

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              • Burns11
                Greatness Has Arrived
                • Mar 2007
                • 7406

                #7327
                Re: Destiny

                I'm not excited for several reasons:

                1. There is no new 6 man co-op activity. So a game that has been all about 6 man activity suddenly has none. So all these 6 man groups that have formed are now split up and in the wind.

                2. We have no details, other than not getting a raid. So we lost a big chunk of what was expected and gained just a whisper of "something".

                3. It's not a raid, but it's the only way to get PvE endgame loot, meaning it will be a raid in all but name (an obligation, limited to 3 times a week, the only real PvE activity outside of nightfall/weekly), with additional limits and faults (3 man only, lack of interesting progression and mechanics).

                4. Rumor is it is a horde mode, the entire game is one big horde mode and the additional horde mode like qualities of TDB's new strikes were by far the worst parts of that round of DLC.

                5. In what already felt like a cut rate PvE DLC with them (seemingly) rehashing the Queen's bounty stuff we already had, now we get a cut rate activity instead of a raid. It's like we bought a Ferrari only to find out it's instead going to be a Fiero with a body kit.

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                • DonkeyJote
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 9202

                  #7328
                  Re: Destiny

                  I would disagree that the game has been about a 6 man activity. I think it's about 3 man activities, and the 6 man thing is a special occasion deal. Only something like 20% of players do raids (I don't have the exact number). I know I, personally, don't raid much. I've played a little over 100 hours and have done Crota once and the Vault twice. I think it's a great idea to introduce a new 3 person mode.

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                  • Burns11
                    Greatness Has Arrived
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 7406

                    #7329
                    Re: Destiny

                    And only 23% of people who had played the game reached vanguard rank 3, only 24% have capped vanguard score, only 16% maxed crucible marks, only 24% have had all legendaries equipped, so very few people even stick with the game for very long. So maybe only 20% have that raid trophy, but that 20% represents the vast majority of people thht have stuck with the game for any great length of time. They can't maintain a player base if they dump what the majority of the player base plays.

                    So yeah, I'm not enthused by having the one reason I stuck with the game dumped from the latest expansion.

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                    • Kearnzo
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5963

                      #7330
                      Re: Destiny

                      Thinking about it, I'm curious as to how they will allow you to level to (presumably) light level 34. If there is no raid, will the shards be obtained by completing the Prison of Elders over and over, or will they continue using radiant energy and shards and have us continue to kill Crota over and over.

                      Not overly excited for either option.

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                      • Burns11
                        Greatness Has Arrived
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 7406

                        #7331
                        Re: Destiny

                        They said there wouldn't be new upgrade materials, who knows what they will do with regards to obtaining upgraded gear.

                        Best guess, prison of elders is structured like a stationary raid, because it was originally the raid. They felt the feedback that Crota was too straightforward, that difficulty by over leveling stuff was ridiculous, so they were in a bind. They couldn't make it hard enough, and they couldn't replace simple mechanics, so they dumped fire team down to 3, dumped the raid moniker and, voila, it's no longer a cheap simplistic raid. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if this thing is multiple (3 or 4) boss enemies separated by waves of normal enemies and you get drops after every boss. A raid that's not a raid that doesn't have over leveled enemies. Which is fine and all except **** your normal 6 man fireteam, it's no longer welcome.

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                        • DonkeyJote
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 9202

                          #7332
                          Re: Destiny

                          Originally posted by Burns11
                          And only 23% of people who had played the game reached vanguard rank 3, only 24% have capped vanguard score, only 16% maxed crucible marks, only 24% have had all legendaries equipped, so very few people even stick with the game for very long. So maybe only 20% have that raid trophy, but that 20% represents the vast majority of people thht have stuck with the game for any great length of time. They can't maintain a player base if they dump what the majority of the player base plays.

                          So yeah, I'm not enthused by having the one reason I stuck with the game dumped from the latest expansion.
                          I still think you are projecting what you like to do on most players. I went through my friends list, and there are 9 players on it who have put in more time than I have. I only typically play with 3 of them, so any bias stemming from us playing together, and thus doing the same things, is minimal. Including me, we spend about 11% of our time in game raiding. And these are all players that are in the end game (I'm the least played of the 10, and I have a 31, 30, and 26).

                          Probably the biggest reason I don't raid more is honestly because of the 6 man groups. I did Vault last week and it took us close to 30 minutes to get started using destinylfg. The one time I finished Crota, we had to stop in the middle to find replacements for two random guys whose connections dropped out. A simpler 3 man raid sounds fantastic to me.

                          They did also say that there will be a third day at a later date. But I think it's better for more players to add a new 3 man activity that isn't just a strike.

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                          • DonkeyJote
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 9202

                            #7333
                            Re: Destiny

                            Originally posted by Kearnzo
                            Thinking about it, I'm curious as to how they will allow you to level to (presumably) light level 34. If there is no raid, will the shards be obtained by completing the Prison of Elders over and over, or will they continue using radiant energy and shards and have us continue to kill Crota over and over.

                            Not overly excited for either option.
                            Last I read, it was going to be ascendant materials for the new gear. And the guy that had been data mining Xur said a couple months back that the new cap would actually be 39.

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                            • KingTocco
                              Fino Alla Fine
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 3158

                              #7334
                              Re: Destiny

                              Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                              Last I read, it was going to be ascendant materials for the new gear. And the guy that had been data mining Xur said a couple months back that the new cap would actually be 39.

                              39 light which would add up to a level of 34.


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                              • kingkilla56
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 19395

                                #7335
                                Re: Destiny

                                Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                                I would disagree that the game has been about a 6 man activity. I think it's about 3 man activities, and the 6 man thing is a special occasion deal. Only something like 20% of players do raids (I don't have the exact number). I know I, personally, don't raid much. I've played a little over 100 hours and have done Crota once and the Vault twice. I think it's a great idea to introduce a new 3 person mode.
                                I keep seeing this 20% of players do raids stat. Where is this number coming from exactly?

                                And yup, its great that Bungie is adding a new game mode. Still expected a raid to ship with House of Wolves or to be released as part of the DLC. They specifically took the raid out of HoW. Its was planned and removed. Why? I cant wait to see how they plan on releasing it when it does come.
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