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  • RedSceptile
    MVP
    • Jun 2011
    • 3680

    #8326
    Re: Destiny

    Just one day I'd like Bungie to balance the PVP weapons. Just once man. I just played a team of 3 Thorns in the Trials and we were down 2-0 but then I switched to Ice Breaker and just started quick scoping them and getting multiple head shot explosions. I'm ******* tired of Thorn man.

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    • DonkeyJote
      All Star
      • Jul 2003
      • 9211

      #8327
      Re: Destiny

      Btw, Skolas is much easier now, even if he takes a little longer. Got him on the second try. First try, we thought adds spawned with the poison and both mines. That was wrong, and we got overwhelmed. Second try we would fire on him unless just about everything else was dead, and even then, we limited ourselves to 2 Rockets apiece. We just did laps passing the essense, got the first mines all together. We actually got him pretty much ad close to 25% as possible without spawning second mines (I thought he was below actually, but there weren't any mines). At that point we just unloaded and killed him before we got mines.

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      • Gerg04
        MVP
        • Mar 2012
        • 2647

        #8328
        Re: Destiny

        Anyone up to run something? Anything?

        My Internet is finally fixed some I'm thinking some crucible /trials

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        • rhein77
          Pro
          • Aug 2010
          • 520

          #8329
          Re: Destiny

          Glad your internet is back up Gerg. Not having stable internet is a pain. Friend me. Kabrule77


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          • Moses Shuttlesworth
            AB>
            • Aug 2006
            • 9435

            #8330
            Re: Destiny

            Weird problem... not good, either

            I put Destiny in my PS4 and when I try to boot it up from the XMB it tells me "no disc inserted."

            Edit: working now
            Last edited by Moses Shuttlesworth; 06-21-2015, 01:45 PM.

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            • 24ct
              Pro
              • Sep 2012
              • 884

              #8331
              Re: Destiny

              Originally posted by RedSceptile
              Just one day I'd like Bungie to balance the PVP weapons. Just once man. I just played a team of 3 Thorns in the Trials and we were down 2-0 but then I switched to Ice Breaker and just started quick scoping them and getting multiple head shot explosions. I'm ******* tired of Thorn man.
              There are guns that can beat the Thorn tho. I'm not gonna lie. I use it in Trials just because when ppl catch bleed they just back away unless they're agro. Then we kill them anyway.

              But...Red Death can beat Thorn and stop the bleed so you can shoot aggresively. TLW will beat Thorn every time if you're good with it and hip firing. Hawkmoon is a good choice too but I wouldn't use a Hawkmoon vs a Thorn as they're both 3 shots but Hawkmoon has more bullets. And the Vex will wreck Thorn but you have to play an agro style with 1 of your guys playing support.

              It's somewhat cheap considering the amount of users who use it but it's no where near as cheap as guys using Final Round snipers and wasting bullets. I actually got a message from a guy because we were using Thorn and I was running Warlock with Firebolt grenades. Apparently using your grenades and Thorn is cheap but he told it was pathetic after we beat them 5-0.

              I'm just thinking. If you can play. You can play. There have been teams that I've lost too without Thorns. But the guys I normally play with, I've only lost maybe 8 matches total with them since it started.

              We don't always run Thorn but I do understand your frustration man. I hate shotguns with extended range. It's just crazy if I'm at the top of the stairs and you can shotgun me from the bottom but my thing is either I switch to a Fusion Rifle with fast charge rate. Or I use a shotgun myself. Just gotta adapt if you have a Thorn.

              Don't limit yourself tho bruh. I feel the same about thorn but no matter how we feel, it's not an exploit like Final Round is so fight fire with fire lol

              Sidenote: The Ice Breaker strategy is a nice one. I might run that with a messenger to see how well we do. But this weeks map is a tricky sniper area.
              Last edited by 24ct; 06-21-2015, 12:41 PM.

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              • N51_rob
                Faceuary!
                • Jul 2003
                • 14805

                #8332
                Re: Destiny

                Got the void Messenger last night! Super excited about it. My Hunter has 3/4 of the Armor and I have a run with my titan scheduled for later today. Once I get them geared up I think I will be done with Trials. Fun mode but way to stressful and I've seen some really shady stuff from people when they lose.
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                • RedSceptile
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 3680

                  #8333
                  Re: Destiny

                  Originally posted by 24ct
                  There are guns that can beat the Thorn tho. I'm not gonna lie. I use it in Trials just because when ppl catch bleed they just back away unless they're agro. Then we kill them anyway.

                  But...Red Death can beat Thorn and stop the bleed so you can shoot aggresively. TLW will beat Thorn every time if you're good with it and hip firing. Hawkmoon is a good choice too but I wouldn't use a Hawkmoon vs a Thorn as they're both 3 shots but Hawkmoon has more bullets. And the Vex will wreck Thorn but you have to play an agro style with 1 of your guys playing support.

                  It's somewhat cheap considering the amount of users who use it but it's no where near as cheap as guys using Final Round snipers and wasting bullets. I actually got a message from a guy because we were using Thorn and I was running Warlock with Firebolt grenades. Apparently using your grenades and Thorn is cheap but he told it was pathetic after we beat them 5-0.

                  I'm just thinking. If you can play. You can play. There have been teams that I've lost too without Thorns. But the guys I normally play with, I've only lost maybe 8 matches total with them since it started.

                  We don't always run Thorn but I do understand your frustration man. I hate shotguns with extended range. It's just crazy if I'm at the top of the stairs and you can shotgun me from the bottom but my thing is either I switch to a Fusion Rifle with fast charge rate. Or I use a shotgun myself. Just gotta adapt if you have a Thorn.

                  Don't limit yourself tho bruh. I feel the same about thorn but no matter how we feel, it's not an exploit like Final Round is so fight fire with fire lol

                  Sidenote: The Ice Breaker strategy is a nice one. I might run that with a messenger to see how well we do. But this weeks map is a tricky sniper area.
                  I could careless about Final Round. It's more so the fact that it's been the most used gun in PVP for the past two weapon updates and considering Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles into useless it's not a big surprise. When you consider the average TTK in this game is far lower than that off other twitchy shooters it's amazing that one gun can literally take away your shields as well as halt your recovery with just one body shot as well as giving you a waiting period to begin your redovery. That and the fact that unlike other guns that have far lower TTKs that are top tier such as Red Death, Hawkmoon, Mythoclast etc. Thorn bundles it all in ridiculous range (Send It increases your range and the actual hit box for Aim Assist) as well as having the aforementioned Mark of the Devourer. So yeah its not so much what counters Thorn it's the fact that Thorn does everything far too well.

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                  • TrustedDegree4
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 1423

                    #8334
                    Re: Destiny

                    The Red Death is my new favorite gun for PvP. It so much better than the thorn for me and hit like a truck. That 2 burst to the head is a monster. I don't even use the thorn any more because of this. The Bad Juju is pretty damn nice as well. Forgot that the vex was a fusion rifle, I just be missing a good amount of shots because of travel time. But it is a fun gun to use.

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                    • 24ct
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 884

                      #8335
                      Re: Destiny

                      Originally posted by RedSceptile
                      I could careless about Final Round. It's more so the fact that it's been the most used gun in PVP for the past two weapon updates and considering Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles into useless it's not a big surprise. When you consider the average TTK in this game is far lower than that off other twitchy shooters it's amazing that one gun can literally take away your shields as well as halt your recovery with just one body shot as well as giving you a waiting period to begin your redovery. That and the fact that unlike other guns that have far lower TTKs that are top tier such as Red Death, Hawkmoon, Mythoclast etc. Thorn bundles it all in ridiculous range (Send It increases your range and the actual hit box for Aim Assist) as well as having the aforementioned Mark of the Devourer. So yeah its not so much what counters Thorn it's the fact that Thorn does everything far too well.
                      Lol man I get it, but it's not THAT bad. If you get hit just back away. Not to mention they can't shoot all 3 of you at once.

                      And I guess a lot of ppl don't care about final round but I do. It's way worse getting 1HKO'd vs actually being able to have a gun fight or a standing chance. If I get sniped by an actual head shot, I get the 1HKO, but if a guy hits my foot and I die? Nah...They took out the ability to roll Final Round on snipers because of this exploit.

                      Guys don't even aim with Final Round. If you peak out the corner you're a goner. If your gun is sticking out, you're a goner. Way worse than catching bleed from Thorn. Thorn will never be a 1HKO so I'm cool with getting hit by 1.

                      With that being said, they are gonna nerf the thorn and/or it's bleed damage eventually. They can see it's being used way more than any gun in crucible. Same way they ended up nerfing Suros Regime because people used it so much.

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                      • GamingJones
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1384

                        #8336
                        Re: Destiny

                        I love taking TLW to a Thorn user, honestly.

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                        • kingkilla56
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 19395

                          #8337
                          Re: Destiny

                          Put on your cringe repellent because Luke Smith just rained gasoline on the Taken King pricing and content controversy.

                          UPDATE 23/6/15 9.00am: Bungie has responded to fan debate surrounding the exclusive perks found in The Taken King's Col…


                          Basically says you'll pay the extra 40 bucks for a couple of new emotes because you love Destiny. I gotta give him a standing ovation for sticking to his guns so strongly. But man he comes off as a dick here. I wont lie, this has me feeling like passing on Destiny this fall. I'll be able to get this and all the other DLC next year for 20 bucks anyway.
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                          • Pezell04x
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2907

                            #8338
                            Re: Destiny

                            Red Death wrecks Thorn as well.
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                            • Pezell04x
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2907

                              #8339
                              Re: Destiny

                              Originally posted by kingkilla56
                              Put on your cringe repellent because Luke Smith just rained gasoline on the Taken King pricing and content controversy.

                              UPDATE 23/6/15 9.00am: Bungie has responded to fan debate surrounding the exclusive perks found in The Taken King's Col…


                              Basically says you'll pay the extra 40 bucks for a couple of new emotes because you love Destiny. I gotta give him a standing ovation for sticking to his guns so strongly. But man he comes off as a dick here. I wont lie, this has me feeling like passing on Destiny this fall. I'll be able to get this and all the other DLC next year for 20 bucks anyway.
                              What a huge ******* Luke Smith sounds like.
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                              • Burns11
                                Greatness Has Arrived
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 7406

                                #8340
                                Re: Destiny

                                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                                Put on your cringe repellent because Luke Smith just rained gasoline on the Taken King pricing and content controversy.

                                UPDATE 23/6/15 9.00am: Bungie has responded to fan debate surrounding the exclusive perks found in The Taken King's Col…


                                Basically says you'll pay the extra 40 bucks for a couple of new emotes because you love Destiny. I gotta give him a standing ovation for sticking to his guns so strongly. But man he comes off as a dick here. I wont lie, this has me feeling like passing on Destiny this fall. I'll be able to get this and all the other DLC next year for 20 bucks anyway.
                                Yeah, I honestly didn't care before, I thought it was silly with their pricing scheme and understood why people were angry but it didn't bother me. That interview right there gets me. To be that condescending and assholish is like nails on a chalkboard.

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