Destiny

[DonkeyJote]

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Kinda depends. I tend to just run Sunsinger. It has flame shield, and if I hold onto my super, between Alchemist's Raiment (my favorite new armor in the game and my goto sunsinger exotic) and tlaloc, I'm good to go.

I don't like stormcaller for the raid, unless you're doing adds on Golgorath. If you don't want to self rez, I think Voidwalker is still better. During totems, a nova bomb could take out the wizards. During Warpriest, you can Nova bomb stuff without exposing yourself to his blasts. During sisters, not a lot is coming close enough to you that you can stormtrance it from your totem. On Oryx, I'd much rather have a voidwalker Nova their ogre and turn around and help with the other. Stormtrance can wipe out big swaths of trash, but it also takes your gun out of the fight too long, imo.

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[Burns11]

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All those nova bombs seem fairly unnecessary though, why nova bomb a wizard when a couple of sniper shots is quicker and easier? Similar with ogres, running touch of malice I'd rather have storm trance for killing thrall at the teleport stage than nova bombing an ogre that is just as easily sniped/grenaded. For golgoroth and warpriest I'd rather keep making (which is better on storm trance than voidwalker) to get shadowshots and weapons of light bubbles up.


Anybody on here have a golgoroth checkpoint on ps4 they could share?

[kingkilla56]

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Voidwalker has never been less necessary in PVE than it is now. I dont even think Sunsinger is that great in PVE anymore now that you dont wipe to orbit in nightfalls. Heroic raids is where it will save people (constantly dying warlocks at least).

I am a big fan of sithlord warlock though. But with Tlaloc, I hardly use my super with warlocks anymore. The gun is just too good.

[Burns11]

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Yeah, even in a nightfall like this week's where the end seems like you need that saving radiance, palpatine clearing adds is more helpful.

Running some strikes last night illustrates why I love the stormtrance. On the stairs in the old style undying mind, and we had 3 warlocks chaining supers and just burning everything down from bottom to top. Just a mess of lightning and orbs, it was awesome. As great as running up the stairs with the void exotic sword and annihilating the three taken witches at the top in one flurry may be, burning everything down with electricity is so satisfying.

[KingTocco]

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Thanks to Burns and Jones for the help yesterday.

Got my warlock to 287 last night in 2 days time, looking to run the raid tonight or at least part of it at around 8:30-9pm if anyone is interested.

Also got my Titan to level 40 and light 249 in one hour last night.


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[Solidice]

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I run Sunsinger with my warlock in the raid. if i manage to mess up and die, i can save myself and prevent a wipe. don't find many needs for void walker or stormcaller supers.

[Solidice]

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I'm probably using my Hereafter and my second invective for that. I just don't ever use the hereafter.

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yeah, I got a 310 4th horseman and 310 monte carlo that I will eventually infuse into other weapons. I don't use either and would get more use out of infusing them into other weapons.

I haven't gotten many repeat raid weapons, and got next to nothing armor side so far. on my Hunter, I got the raid gauntlets, forgot what defense they came in, but I infused a couple of exotics I got at 310 and now they are at 310. pretty decent roll for my hunter with faster Hand cannon reloads(for Ace of Spades, although don't use it much in the raid itself)

Still happy I got a 310 raid heavy machine gun. only used it a little, but it was pretty great.

[DonkeyJote]

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All those nova bombs seem fairly unnecessary though, why nova bomb a wizard when a couple of sniper shots is quicker and easier? Similar with ogres, running touch of malice I'd rather have storm trance for killing thrall at the teleport stage than nova bombing an ogre that is just as easily sniped/grenaded. For golgoroth and warpriest I'd rather keep making (which is better on storm trance than voidwalker) to get shadowshots and weapons of light bubbles up.


Anybody on here have a golgoroth checkpoint on ps4 they could share?

Because a Nova bomb can take out a huge group of thrall and not take your gun out of play. Frankly, for the whole Oryx fight, supers are largely irrelevant. And I'll be shocked if "Oryx drains your light" isn't a mechanic in hard mode anyway. I'd take Sunsinger grenades and melees over stormcaller any day.

If you're running obsidian mind, you can do the same thing running up the steps. Though, to be honest, it's never mattered which subclass you use on strikes. Stormtrance is cool, but it takes your gun out of the fight too long, imo, and physically exposes you. A good Nova bomb can make plenty of orbs.

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[LBzrule]

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Anyone know about the specifics of Iron Banner tomorrow? Will it just be Control or will they diversify it? Would really like for them to use Rift as well.

[N51_rob]

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Anyone know about the specifics of Iron Banner tomorrow? Will it just be Control or will they diversify it? Would really like for them to use Rift as well.

"In the past" it's always been control. Not sure of they plan to change anything.

[Burns11]

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Don't need a gun when everything is dead from lightning.

[DonkeyJote]

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Don't need a gun when everything is dead from lightning.

Not everything is though. Just the stuff directly next to you. With a nova, lots of stuff is dead faster and when it's all gone, you're not just floating there unable to shoot. It's great for close quarters strikes, and for trash clearing in the pit. But when in a bigger area, Nova is better. Take the shade part, for example. The thrall start spawing, you Nova them on the left real quick, and then help work on the stuff to the right (taken are great for Nova bombs because of how they spawn). I'm not trying to say stormtrance is bad, but it's not the best thing to do in every situation in pve. I mean, hell, I've seen builds where you don't use the super at all (and it works very well, tbh).

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[Burns11]

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All this started because you said stormcaller sucks for the raid, voidwalker is better and then tried to invent spots where it could be used. There are just a handful of spots where a super is useful, and every one a stormcaller is better.

Opening the gate, without a doubt stormcaller is better, burn down everything from relic to goal, do that with either other super.

Rune door, no supers here, really, they are unnecessary. Everything dies easily as long as people do their jobs it's easy peasey.

Warpriest, no supers needed here for warlocks, though generating orbs is helpful and best way to do that here is stormcaller due to slow spawn /spread spawn points depending on location.

Golgoroth, between clearing adds to generate orbs and clearing taken adds at end of fight, is there any question stormcaller is better?

Daughters, with adds being an issue after the bubble, no doubt stormcaller is the go to here.

Oryx, no supers needed, really, I know I never use mine unless someone else doesn't do their job (mostly being in teleport and thralls sneaking through, and in this case I can damage oryx and burn thralls simultaneously so stormcaller). For ogres, as long as people do their jobs, supers are completely unnecessary. You could nova bomb them, but depending on having a nova bomb is risky and using one gets everyone else out of rhythm if for some reason you are without a nova. Better to play straight, everybody do their jobs and it's easy. As for self rez, you shouldn't be dying in this raid at all, and spots where you might self rez won't help. The exception there might be the rune gate, but if you die there somebody ****ed up so you are really in need of someone new that can follow the mechanics and do their job.

[KingTocco]

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Stormcaller is amazing in pretty much every situation of anything and it's a blast to use...nuff said.

#WarlockMasterRace


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[TrustedDegree4]

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Guess I'ma run Stormcaller until I hit Oryx, then switch to Sunsinger. Clearing out adds are going to be important and help Hunters and Titan.