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  • Bacardi151
    **t *f y**r *l*m*nt D*nny
    • Aug 2002
    • 3114

    #1

    no backward compatibility on next xbox




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    No backward compatibility in Xbox 2
    Rob Fahey 16:15 21/06/2004

    Because two boxes under the TV are as good as one, apparently

    Sources close to Microsoft's senior Xbox executives have confirmed that the company does not intend to make its next-generation console, which is set to be launched by late 2005, backwards compatible with existing Xbox software.

    Speculation about the backwards compatibility functionality has been rife since it emerged that Xbox 2 - codenamed Xenon - will have radically different hardware to the original system, with a non-x86 processor, no hard drive and an ATI, rather than NVIDIA, graphics chipset, all of which would make running Xbox titles on the platform very difficult.

    It was widely believed, however, that Microsoft had retained a team of hardware emulation experts to work on the problem - although concerns over the viability of such an endeavour were voiced by some experts, especially regarding the company's ability to emulate the functions of the graphics unit in the Xbox without violating NVIDIA's intellectual property rights.

    GamesIndustry.biz has now learned that Microsoft does not plan to provide any backwards compatibility in the next-generation Xenon platform - and indeed, that senior executives at the company don't believe backwards compatibility to be an important feature for consoles.

    According to a source close to the project, internal Microsoft figures suggest that only 10 per cent of PlayStation 2 purchasers were interested in the console's ability to play titles developed for the original PlayStation.

    Although this still represents some seven million consumers on a global basis - which is around half of Microsoft's entire installed base for Xbox - the company apparently believes that allowing consumers to play existing Xbox titles on the next-generation hardware would not be a significant deciding factor for Xenon purchasers.

    However, a report into the videogames industry published today by Wedbrush Morgan Securities senior vice president Michael Pachter disagrees with this conclusion - arguing that failing to provide backward compatibility could have the effect of alienating Microsoft's existing Xbox installed base.

    "In the event that Xbox Next is not backward compatible, we think that the device will be very slow to grow its footprint," the report warns, while elsewhere it suggests that such a move could damage the company's long-term prospects for the console.

    "We do expect Microsoft to launch its console first, perhaps as early as 2005," says Pachter. "Should it choose to do so without backward compatibility or significant third-party software support, we expect to see its first-mover advantage evaporate."

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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #2
    Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

    It seems to me that the next gen console is heading down the wrong road. No HD in my opinion was a bad decision to make. Now with no backwards compatibility it'll be worse off for them. Let's face the fact that the Xbox has a lot of life left in it and while the new console will garner lots of attention and buys they'll still need the use of the original xbox games because they're not going to have a massive or very good library within months of Xbox-Next being sold.
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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

      It seems to me that the next gen console is heading down the wrong road. No HD in my opinion was a bad decision to make. Now with no backwards compatibility it'll be worse off for them. Let's face the fact that the Xbox has a lot of life left in it and while the new console will garner lots of attention and buys they'll still need the use of the original xbox games because they're not going to have a massive or very good library within months of Xbox-Next being sold.
      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

      "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #4
        Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

        It seems to me that the next gen console is heading down the wrong road. No HD in my opinion was a bad decision to make. Now with no backwards compatibility it'll be worse off for them. Let's face the fact that the Xbox has a lot of life left in it and while the new console will garner lots of attention and buys they'll still need the use of the original xbox games because they're not going to have a massive or very good library within months of Xbox-Next being sold.
        Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

        "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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        • ThatCanadianGuy
          d*v*'s * k*ll*r!
          • Jul 2002
          • 2111

          #5
          Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

          I might jump back to Sony next gen, I'll have to wait and see what happens. When I got my PS2 at launch, I used backwards comp a lot during the game droughts, and it's nice to not have to unhook your PS2 to play PS1 games. I don't have room to store a bunch of consoles.

          Hell even Nintendo's next console is rumoured to have backwards comp. That would mean MS would be the only one who doesn't. They may think it's useless, but I don't. It takes new consoles at least a year or two to get going with games, so that's where back comp comes in handy.

          I don't want to have to unhook my Xbox 2 and hook up my Xbox when I want to play Halo 2 or Ninja Gaiden.. I'll wait for official word on this though, I'm just ranting.

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          • ThatCanadianGuy
            d*v*'s * k*ll*r!
            • Jul 2002
            • 2111

            #6
            Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

            I might jump back to Sony next gen, I'll have to wait and see what happens. When I got my PS2 at launch, I used backwards comp a lot during the game droughts, and it's nice to not have to unhook your PS2 to play PS1 games. I don't have room to store a bunch of consoles.

            Hell even Nintendo's next console is rumoured to have backwards comp. That would mean MS would be the only one who doesn't. They may think it's useless, but I don't. It takes new consoles at least a year or two to get going with games, so that's where back comp comes in handy.

            I don't want to have to unhook my Xbox 2 and hook up my Xbox when I want to play Halo 2 or Ninja Gaiden.. I'll wait for official word on this though, I'm just ranting.

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            • ThatCanadianGuy
              d*v*'s * k*ll*r!
              • Jul 2002
              • 2111

              #7
              Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

              I might jump back to Sony next gen, I'll have to wait and see what happens. When I got my PS2 at launch, I used backwards comp a lot during the game droughts, and it's nice to not have to unhook your PS2 to play PS1 games. I don't have room to store a bunch of consoles.

              Hell even Nintendo's next console is rumoured to have backwards comp. That would mean MS would be the only one who doesn't. They may think it's useless, but I don't. It takes new consoles at least a year or two to get going with games, so that's where back comp comes in handy.

              I don't want to have to unhook my Xbox 2 and hook up my Xbox when I want to play Halo 2 or Ninja Gaiden.. I'll wait for official word on this though, I'm just ranting.

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              • injunwal
                T*g*r's Sw*ng - M*ck*ls*n's M*n B**bs
                • Jul 2002
                • 2103

                #8
                Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                Bad move IMO. MS needs to listen to what people are saying about the Hd and backwards compatibility. The only reason a lot of people are getting XBox's now is because the hardware is so superior even though the library is so-so.

                Next generation when MS does not have a 2 year jump in technology over Sony they are going to get destroyed and making moves like this will help contribute
                Actually...believe it or not from my physique... I'm a light eater - Clay T. Shaver

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                • injunwal
                  T*g*r's Sw*ng - M*ck*ls*n's M*n B**bs
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2103

                  #9
                  Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                  Bad move IMO. MS needs to listen to what people are saying about the Hd and backwards compatibility. The only reason a lot of people are getting XBox's now is because the hardware is so superior even though the library is so-so.

                  Next generation when MS does not have a 2 year jump in technology over Sony they are going to get destroyed and making moves like this will help contribute
                  Actually...believe it or not from my physique... I'm a light eater - Clay T. Shaver

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                  • injunwal
                    T*g*r's Sw*ng - M*ck*ls*n's M*n B**bs
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2103

                    #10
                    Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                    Bad move IMO. MS needs to listen to what people are saying about the Hd and backwards compatibility. The only reason a lot of people are getting XBox's now is because the hardware is so superior even though the library is so-so.

                    Next generation when MS does not have a 2 year jump in technology over Sony they are going to get destroyed and making moves like this will help contribute
                    Actually...believe it or not from my physique... I'm a light eater - Clay T. Shaver

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                    • mgoblue
                      Go Wings!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25477

                      #11
                      Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                      maybe it's just me, but I like never used the backwards compatibility for the PS2...I didn't get the PS2 at launch (was a poor college student), so that might have been part of it...How many people really use this feature? i mean, it sounds really cool, but once Xbox 2 games are out I won't care much about xbox games, and I could still keep my old xbox if I wanted. No HD is just stupid though, on that I agree.
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                      • mgoblue
                        Go Wings!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 25477

                        #12
                        Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                        maybe it's just me, but I like never used the backwards compatibility for the PS2...I didn't get the PS2 at launch (was a poor college student), so that might have been part of it...How many people really use this feature? i mean, it sounds really cool, but once Xbox 2 games are out I won't care much about xbox games, and I could still keep my old xbox if I wanted. No HD is just stupid though, on that I agree.
                        Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818

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                        • mgoblue
                          Go Wings!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 25477

                          #13
                          Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                          maybe it's just me, but I like never used the backwards compatibility for the PS2...I didn't get the PS2 at launch (was a poor college student), so that might have been part of it...How many people really use this feature? i mean, it sounds really cool, but once Xbox 2 games are out I won't care much about xbox games, and I could still keep my old xbox if I wanted. No HD is just stupid though, on that I agree.
                          Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818

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                          • sdrotar
                            OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1055

                            #14
                            Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                            I think it's a mistake, too.
                            I still think that we'll see some sort of storage device for the next Xbox - perhaps a flash memory unit large enough to function as a hard drive - but if that doesn't happen either, the Xbox is going to be in big trouble unless Microsoft has cards up their sleeve they haven't shown yet... and that's possible.

                            I suspect that the backwards compatibility issues are more due to the Xbox/ATI agreement that makes it difficult, if not impossible from a legal standpoint to utilize proprietary NVIDIA technologies rather than a reluctance to doing so.
                            Shawn Drotar
                            Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                            • sdrotar
                              OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1055

                              #15
                              Re: no backward compatibility on next xbox

                              I think it's a mistake, too.
                              I still think that we'll see some sort of storage device for the next Xbox - perhaps a flash memory unit large enough to function as a hard drive - but if that doesn't happen either, the Xbox is going to be in big trouble unless Microsoft has cards up their sleeve they haven't shown yet... and that's possible.

                              I suspect that the backwards compatibility issues are more due to the Xbox/ATI agreement that makes it difficult, if not impossible from a legal standpoint to utilize proprietary NVIDIA technologies rather than a reluctance to doing so.
                              Shawn Drotar
                              Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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