Overwatch

[The JareBear]

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Our boy Arimstead linked this article about Torbjorn on consoles being a problem, pretty great article

Torbjörn Is Currently Ruining 'Overwatch' On PS4 And Xbox One - Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco.../#4533667c1419

Some great points in the article, especially pointing out that his ultimate charges very quickly, and he's no slouch with his own gun

Edit:

Interesting that Symmetra is right behind Torb as console win rate leader on console. Both involve high damage auto aim. I think people underestimate symmetras portal. Gotta find it and take it down as soon as you hesr its up

[kingkilla56]

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I complained about every single one of these points the last couple weeks. The guy is a problem. Always has been. Counters or no counters.

[IlliniM1ke]

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Torb is a nightmare when you face a team rolling 6 of him, so hard to generate a push. I don't have a problem with him or even a couple, but 6 from different angles on any attack is hard to overcome.

[kingkilla56]

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That scenario is effectively 6 v 12.

[Speedy]

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I agree with the suggestions of nerfing Torbjorn...reduce the range and increase the cooldown significantly (14 seconds?) after it's destroyed.

As far as Symmetra is concerned...her sentries are also annoying but I wouldn't consider her OP; more so that the team doesn't concentrate in getting rid of her tac insert (how's that for COD talk ).

I do wonder if they'll create a hero that has an EMP power of some kind. It wouldn't be effective against everybody but for heros that have placeable/throwable gadgets or ults it could be extremely beneficial.

[KSUowls]

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Torb is a nightmare when you face a team rolling 6 of him, so hard to generate a push. I don't have a problem with him or even a couple, but 6 from different angles on any attack is hard to overcome.

It's funny. I've faced teams of 6 Torbs 3 or 4 times and we wrecked them in every situation. I find 2 torbs with complimentary pieces much more difficult to deal with.

The one exception to the above. I once had a game against 5 Torbs and a Widowmaker who was pretty good. There wasn't anything we could do. The turrets auto locked on too fast and the Widow sniped anyone who poked their head out for a quick hit.

[kingkilla56]

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Don't see how Symmetra is op. She's a hero that needs a competent team to thrive. I rarely see her outside of full teams, where she should thrive. Nowhere near the fiasco that is Trobjorn.

[Phobia]

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Can anyone get on the PC servers? I've been trying and it keeps saying unable to find servers.

[The JareBear]

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Yeah symmetra isn't OP, someone who doesn't know what they're doing with Sym is going to hurt their team more than help. I just found the win rate for her on consoles to be interesting

I agree with the suggestions of nerfing Torbjorn...reduce the range and increase the cooldown significantly (14 seconds?) after it's destroyed..

I think these are the fairest nerfs, IMO. Would have no issue with this whatsoever

[choadler]

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Torb is a nightmare when you face a team rolling 6 of him, so hard to generate a push. I don't have a problem with him or even a couple, but 6 from different angles on any attack is hard to overcome.

We had a 5 man torb with a widowmaker and we smoked them, but it was on pc. Reinhardt, dva, soldier Lucio, junk rat, Pharah. They had nowhere to go. Soldier and Pharah sat behind rein shield and blasted them down while dva could use defense matrix and fly up to elevated turrets and take them down. We would wait for them to pop molten core and pull back and then rengage.

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[The JareBear]

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We had a 5 man torb with a widowmaker and we smoked them, but it was on pc. Reinhardt, dva, soldier Lucio, junk rat, Pharah. They had nowhere to go. Soldier and Pharah sat behind rein shield and blasted them down while dva could use defense matrix and fly up to elevated turrets and take them down. We would wait for them to pop molten core and pull back and then rengage.

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Yeah, like the article posted says the Torb problem is mostly/solely a console thing, if it's a even a real problem at all.

If my randoms get a Reinhardt going it's not really an issue. It's just hard finding someone to commit to their role without communicating.

[87Birdman]

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Yeah, like the article posted says the Torb problem is mostly/solely a console thing, if it's a even a real problem at all.

If my randoms get a Reinhardt going it's not really an issue. It's just hard finding someone to commit to their role without communicating.

Usually when I run Torbjorn I will use my gun and start peppering the shield before he can get to my turrent. If there are 6 like that it could be problematic.

I think that is what makes it so hard is there are 12 targets you are looking out for. Now if they sit behind their turrent trying to repair it it isn't so bad because then it goes back to 6 on 6.

But I usually will set my turrent and than go out with my gun and I'd I see my turrent taking damage I usually try taking that person out which can be quite easy as they are usually focused on trying to pop out and hit the turrent and go back behind cover making them an easy target. For Reinhardt I just flank and start shooting him in the back to either make him turn our site and if I can't flank I pepper the shield to make it go down faster.

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[IlliniM1ke]

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It's funny. I've faced teams of 6 Torbs 3 or 4 times and we wrecked them in every situation. I find 2 torbs with complimentary pieces much more difficult to deal with.

The one exception to the above. I once had a game against 5 Torbs and a Widowmaker who was pretty good. There wasn't anything we could do. The turrets auto locked on too fast and the Widow sniped anyone who poked their head out for a quick hit.

Yeah mostly depends again if its a pre-made group or randoms, with communication you can do it, with randoms they like to trickle in, seems like we never got more than 3 trying to push at once while the other 3 just kept feeding ults.

[KSUowls]

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You can try out competitive play in the public test realm now

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20157263

[Kearnzo]

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Had a few decent games so far since picking this up yesterday, but I've been struggling quite a bit as well. Definitely a learning curve with this game.

Tjorborn is definitely the easiest hero I've used. I scored a huge amount of eliminations with him in one game without even really trying. Although once the team realized that they needed to switch it up, he was less effective. Had a really good game with Reaper this morning as well.

My two favorites so far are definitely Soldier 76 and Lucio. Had some really solid games with them. I'll definitely have to group up with you guys soon though as playing with randoms when my buddies aren't on can be a struggle.

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