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  • choadler
    MVP
    • Feb 2004
    • 2001

    #1246
    Re: Overwatch

    Originally posted by KSUowls
    I've seen a lot of complaining about how the ranking system works. Any feedback from those who have logged some time in ranked play?
    I have no idea how anyone can complain when it isn't really clear how the MMR is calculated. Apparently some maps and modes contribute more for a win than others. It depends on the.competition you played in beta and quick play. It depends on how you perform on a hero on that map and game mode compared.to the average hero. It seems very complicated.

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    • Speedy
      #Ace
      • Apr 2008
      • 16143

      #1247
      Re: Overwatch

      Originally posted by KSUowls
      I've seen a lot of complaining about how the ranking system works. Any feedback from those who have logged some time in ranked play?
      A lot of PC folks are annoyed at how the game still allows multiple heroes to be selected. I personally feel like, at least on console, once they nerf Torbjorn that every hero can be countered.




      ....except Genji. I hope he rots in death every time I see him die.
      Originally posted by Gibson88
      Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
      It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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      • kingkilla56
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2009
        • 19395

        #1248
        Re: Overwatch

        Give Zen more health!
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        • Swamp Swagger
          Gator Bait
          • Sep 2012
          • 3825

          #1249
          Re: Overwatch

          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          Give Zen more health!


          He needs at least 200 for sure

          But even with that he has no escape ability so it really wouldn't help much. Once he's caught he's pretty much dead

          I still use him quite a bit though


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          • CC
            MVP
            • Nov 2009
            • 3085

            #1250
            Re: Overwatch

            I think Zenyatta just needs a little more speed. It takes forever to get back to the action if you die. I'don't like that and Mercy to have a youth more damage with her blaster.

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            • KSUowls
              All Star
              • Jul 2009
              • 5900

              #1251
              Re: Overwatch

              Originally posted by Speedy
              A lot of PC folks are annoyed at how the game still allows multiple heroes to be selected. I personally feel like, at least on console, once they nerf Torbjorn that every hero can be countered.




              ....except Genji. I hope he rots in death every time I see him die.
              Every hero can definitely be countered, but I still hate Bastion. Highest DPS, no accuracy penalty at range, strong self heal with no cool down, near tank level HP, can turn into sentry mode nearly instantly with no cool down, it takes 3 direct hits from pharah's rockets to kill him, etc etc.

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              • kingkilla56
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2009
                • 19395

                #1252
                Overwatch

                I used to have real issues with bastion but feel like either the community has finally learned how to deal with him or it just chooses him less (or both).
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                • KSUowls
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5900

                  #1253
                  Re: Overwatch

                  I've seen a lot lately, and part of my frustration is playing with low level friends who have a harder time dealing. still though all the pieces I mentioned earlier hold true. He does lose effectiveness in higher level play, but even pros still use him some. No other single character holds such a significant advantage over a segment of the player population. Surely there is some tweaking they can do that balances him at low to mid level play withoyt hurting his high end use.

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                  • Phobia
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11623

                    #1254
                    Re: Overwatch

                    I'm 5-0 so far in my placement matches, hoping by tomorrow I'll have the last 5 knocked out. Reinhardt is my go to in pretty much any situation. It seems many don't like to use him AND he works great for either side (attacking or defense).

                    As far as buffs, I see the complaints for Zenyatta but I still feel he doesn't need any buff. His damage buff is drastic and when used properly as a team can cause team wipes easy enough. If he would get any buff I think speed is only area which would be balancing.

                    For me, Symmetra needs the buff the most. Her teleport is critical, her "turrets" are more annoyances than death dealers, her speed is decent, so as a defense role of sitting back in a room protecting a teleport can be useful BUT her primary & secondary attack is garbage. Damage output is fine but the range is really to short. I feel if you upped her range just slightly, something around Zarya's weapon range would be perfect.

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                    • kingkilla56
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 19395

                      #1255
                      Overwatch

                      I just wish her turrets took a slight bit more to destroy. They blow up if you sneeze near them.

                      Giving her Zarya range on her death laser would be pretty drastic.
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                      • Candyman5
                        Come get some!
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 14380

                        #1256
                        Re: Overwatch

                        Originally posted by Phobia
                        I'm 5-0 so far in my placement matches, hoping by tomorrow I'll have the last 5 knocked out. Reinhardt is my go to in pretty much any situation. It seems many don't like to use him AND he works great for either side (attacking or defense).

                        As far as buffs, I see the complaints for Zenyatta but I still feel he doesn't need any buff. His damage buff is drastic and when used properly as a team can cause team wipes easy enough. If he would get any buff I think speed is only area which would be balancing.

                        For me, Symmetra needs the buff the most. Her teleport is critical, her "turrets" are more annoyances than death dealers, her speed is decent, so as a defense role of sitting back in a room protecting a teleport can be useful BUT her primary & secondary attack is garbage. Damage output is fine but the range is really to short. I feel if you upped her range just slightly, something around Zarya's weapon range would be perfect.
                        Absolutely not. Lol. If they do that then her damage needs to drop by half, she can kill pretty much everyone by herself on a control point with her damage and turrets. Its all about placement and strategy with her.

                        Also she has a long range attack, the alt fire on her gun. That could be sped up however a little.


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                        • The JareBear
                          Be Good To One Another
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 11560

                          #1257
                          Re: Overwatch

                          Symmetra has one of the highest win rates on console, her overall stat numbers are pretty wild.

                          Some people even discussed her possibly being OP, which I disagree with.

                          Sym, in my opinion, is a pretty damn strong hero.

                          Her alt fire is under appreciated and under utilized. It goes through Reinhardts shield and damages anyone it touches, fully charged it can wreck people

                          Her turrets only have 1 HP, they definitrly aren't designed to be used like Torbs turret. Their slow effect is probably even more useful than the damage they dish out tho. Her ultimate charges pretty quickly and that teleporter can change a match.

                          Sym is all about Synergy, everything she does, especially her turrets, is designed to be used effectively with teammates support.

                          Her shield buff is small but does recharge after 3 seconds.

                          I dunno. I guess I just never looked at her being underpowered on console but I could be wrong for sure.
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                          • Phobia
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 11623

                            #1258
                            Re: Overwatch

                            I don't think I've ever been hit by her secondary, it so slow its basically useless. Ohhhh whats this big giant slow moving purple ball......better move around it (slowly walk around it). Now as far as the range with primary, yea it does deal good damage but good luck getting close enough to benefit from it. Plus if you do get close enough you are pretty much camping your turrets (hiding in 1 room with 6 turrets lol) or you are putting yourself in danger rushing people.

                            Now this is on PC, but I do not fear her one single bit. I can rush her with pretty much anyone, destroy her turrets before they do any kind of real damage and kite her nonstop before she can get close enough for a kill.

                            Maybe on console she is better but on PC she is easily my least feared opponent.

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                            • Phobia
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11623

                              #1259
                              Re: Overwatch

                              Originally posted by Candyman5
                              Absolutely not. Lol. If they do that then her damage needs to drop by half, she can kill pretty much everyone by herself on a control point with her damage and turrets. Its all about placement and strategy with her.

                              Also she has a long range attack, the alt fire on her gun. That could be sped up however a little.


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                              I don't see it being OP compared to Zarya

                              Particle cannon does 70-150 DPS (depending on charge) but with 15 meters of range.

                              Symmetra does 30-120 (depending on rate of hold) DPS with 5 meters of range.

                              Obviously both charge their weapons in different ways but its pretty clear that Zarya deals more damage plus with more range. Now yes Zarya is a tank vs a defense hero BUT 5 meters of range is a bit pathetic.

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                              • The JareBear
                                Be Good To One Another
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 11560

                                #1260
                                Re: Overwatch

                                Yeah honestly it's tough for me to know for sure as the console and PC experience are very different. For what it's worth, I know Candy is referring to the console experience as well. She's definitely a popular beast on console.

                                Maybe she needs a buff on the PC side only, ala Torbs console only nerf.

                                On console her alt fire is very very useful. It's not used like a shotgun blast or a rocket coming straight at you from across the map, more pre-firing around hot corners or surprising a rushing Reinhardt shielding team with it, also useful for harassing sniper nests

                                Honestly though I can see how on PC she's not as strong considering you can aim and take her down easier before she dances around you and melts you, plus on PC due to accuracy of aim her turrets probably get melted down even quicker than on console. So yeah, I can definitely imagine where you're coming from.

                                I guess with these discussions the platform of choice (PC or console) needs to be the primary consideration
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