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[The_Wise_One]

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Boy I am having so much fun playing new Zenyatta. Won 5 games in a row and got up to rank 60 in no time.

[The JareBear]

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Boy I am having so much fun playing new Zenyatta. Won 5 games in a row and got up to rank 60 in no time.

Glad to hear this, I love that Zenyatta got some attention. Grats on 60, hope you keep climbing

So they stealth nerfed Symmetra on consoles.

This infuriates me. She was already a pretty bad pick most of the time. Now she's a complete waste pick. You're better off playing Mercy instead.

I'm convinced blizzard doesn't bother actually playing on consoles. Just blindly nerf things based on win rate. When win rate doesn't tell the whole story.

Oh well, PC is all blizzard really cares about anyway. That much has been painfully obvious.

I didn't even know they were doing this to Sym until I one of my buddies posted it in Groupme yesterday. I definitely think that's pretty lame. Sym was a awesome hero for specific purposes before but IMO her turrets were never OP or a problem. That sucks

[ubernoob]

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Boy I am having so much fun playing new Zenyatta. Won 5 games in a row and got up to rank 60 in no time.

If you're on PC, welcome to the top 11% of all players.

If you're on PS4, welcome to the top 15% of all players.

[Speedy]

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So they stealth nerfed Symmetra on consoles.

This infuriates me. She was already a pretty bad pick most of the time. Now she's a complete waste pick. You're better off playing Mercy instead.

I'm convinced blizzard doesn't bother actually playing on consoles. Just blindly nerf things based on win rate. When win rate doesn't tell the whole story.

Oh well, PC is all blizzard really cares about anyway. That much has been painfully obvious.

I disagree...the primary use of Symmetra is not damage but her transporter (or tac insert, from my COD days). I'm okay with nerfing anything that requires no manual intervention like turrets. If Blizzard does decide to revist her, I'd expect them to decrease the amount of time it takes to get her ult since her damage output has lessened.

Speaking of turrets, I played about 10 games and didn't see a single Torbjorn. Did see at least 1 D.Va per match but no Torbjorn.

[The JareBear]

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Speaking of turrets, I played about 10 games and didn't see a single Torbjorn. Did see at least 1 D.Va per match but no Torbjorn.

Honest question:

Do you think this is a good thing? Like, I guess I'm asking if you think he's actually useless/not worth playing at all right now or if he's still fairly viable but people are just shying away because it's so recent of a nerf (or something like that, if that makes sense). I guess I ask because I don't think balance means making a hero useless, per say. I guess his ultimate still charges quickly and it's still a really powerful ult.

I was wondering if maybe the nerf was a tad harsh considering there's a one hero limit now and D.va, who already could annihilate a Torb turret 1v1 easily, has been buffed. Torb seemed like an issue to me until I played comp matches. I saw him and his turret get mowed down by good teams in comp like a hot knife thru butter, before the nerf

Thanks for any input you have

[Sandman42]

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Honest question:

Do you think this is a good thing? Like, I guess I'm asking if you think he's actually useless/not worth playing at all right now or if he's still fairly viable but people are just shying away because it's so recent of a nerf (or something like that, if that makes sense). I guess I ask because I don't think balance means making a hero useless, per say. I guess his ultimate still charges quickly and it's still a really powerful ult.

I was wondering if maybe the nerf was a tad harsh considering there's a one hero limit now and D.va, who already could annihilate a Torb turret 1v1 easily, has been buffed. Torb seemed like an issue to me until I played comp matches. I saw him and his turret get mowed down by good teams in comp like a hot knife thru butter, before the nerf

Thanks for any input you have

Welcome to how Blizzard balances games. Sometimes they get it right, but most times they make whatever they nerfed useless. A few of the most OP cards in Hearthstone got nerfed into irrelevancy.

Look what they did with McCree. After the initial nerf I rarely saw him get play, only with them changing him once again does he start to see play again.

Interested to see how Torb ends up a consoles. He wasn't touched on the PC version, but he really only sees play on a few defense maps, mainly Hanamura.

[ubernoob]

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I still see plenty of Torbs. I won't say I see them every match, but every 2-3 matches seems right.

Not every hero is supposed to be viable for everything - though before they added the 1 hero maximum there was no reason to pick the "not strong" heroes. Honestly, in 10 or so games tonight, I can't think of a hero I didn't see multiple times in competitive.

[Speedy]

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Honest question:

Do you think this is a good thing? Like, I guess I'm asking if you think he's actually useless/not worth playing at all right now or if he's still fairly viable but people are just shying away because it's so recent of a nerf (or something like that, if that makes sense). I guess I ask because I don't think balance means making a hero useless, per say. I guess his ultimate still charges quickly and it's still a really powerful ult.

I was wondering if maybe the nerf was a tad harsh considering there's a one hero limit now and D.va, who already could annihilate a Torb turret 1v1 easily, has been buffed. Torb seemed like an issue to me until I played comp matches. I saw him and his turret get mowed down by good teams in comp like a hot knife thru butter, before the nerf

Thanks for any input you have

The multiple heroes issue in competitive play accentuated the problem of Torbjorn to me. He still has a place though and can be useful...I think his turret was meant to be as a "crowd control" type of weapon versus a primary.

Sandman's point is right about Blizzard...they hear the community's feedback, adjust the game way more than needed, then have to backtrack after hearing post-feedback that the changes were too harsh. McCree got nerfed way to hard initially so they had to adjust...in this patch, I think D.Va got too much of a boost (I'm ok with the defense mechanism but lower her health down to like 325 or 350) and I expect them to adjust her too.

For as good of a game that Blizzard has created (which is fairly well balanced), their adjustments are puzzling. The nerf/boost in heros seem far too specific to PC (console plays far different than PC)...the competitive play sometimes goes on FOREVER...for that matter, the game has been out 3 months and the only DLC has been one hero - I figured I'd have gotten a new map by now.

[The JareBear]

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So I heard the next hero is probably going to be a stealth type hero or something like that?

[IlliniM1ke]

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My word Zenyatta is a menace now. Maybe too strong. He really outclasses Ana IMO.

Yup liking the changes I need to get back to playing him more.

Love playing Reinhardt with a good Ana on my team. Getting that nano boost makes you feel invincible.

Good Ana being the key, seeing her picked a lot still but still seeing a lot of people wanting to deal damage first and toss an occasional heal here and there which isn't a good recipe for success. You're right though the ones who play her well are great to have on your team.

Hate the new character . Reason being in quick play with randoms there has been no less than 2 of her on my team coupled with another hanzo or widow maker. Makes the game 10 mins of frustration especially on an attack board


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Yeah huge pain having a group with Hanzo, Widow, and Ana on an attack map you know its over before it even begins.

[ubernoob]

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Went on a massive losing streak today, so that was fun. Solo queue on the weekends is a terrible idea. Had a game where I D.Va bombed the point and got 4 kills (and a winston to under a bar of health) and the team absolutely refused to push in on the last Hanamura point. So we lost. With 5v1.

Down to 51, but I'll get back to 60 during the week. At least I broke my losing streak so the points loss is way less.

[drewst18]

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Went on a massive losing streak today, so that was fun. Solo queue on the weekends is a terrible idea. Had a game where I D.Va bombed the point and got 4 kills (and a winston to under a bar of health) and the team absolutely refused to push in on the last Hanamura point. So we lost. With 5v1.

Down to 51, but I'll get back to 60 during the week. At least I broke my losing streak so the points loss is way less.

Solo anytime is rough, odds are you are going to get one or two useless players who don't understand the different classes you need to win. Feels like there are too many people who will pick the same class no matter what their team make up is. Great to have a couple you master but should have some versatility.

Do you play on PC?

[Candyman5]

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I disagree...the primary use of Symmetra is not damage but her transporter (or tac insert, from my COD days). I'm okay with nerfing anything that requires no manual intervention like turrets. If Blizzard does decide to revist her, I'd expect them to decrease the amount of time it takes to get her ult since her damage output has lessened.

Speaking of turrets, I played about 10 games and didn't see a single Torbjorn. Did see at least 1 D.Va per match but no Torbjorn.

I disagree. Just because people are too stupid to destroy the turrets she had (1 hit kill at that) people screamed it was broken. Her biggest strength is completely destroyed now. She is utterly useless other than her teleport ult which makes her the only character in the game that is in that Catagory.

Maybe I can go to the forums and scream about how the ult to win with Reaper is OP.......oh wait, I cant because Blizzards dumb asses wont let console players post there.



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[Candyman5]

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Also if they were going with the 1 hero limit in comp (which wasnt needed either, just people bitching because they werent switching to counter) then they never needed to nerf Torb to begin with. The problem wasnt torb with a turret, it was multiple ones with turrets.

This is coming from a Torb *****.

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[kingkilla56]

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Well, nobody screamed she was broken. She got blanket nerfed because of Trob.

But yeah, she's pretty useless now (I'd argue she was useless before as well). I thought she needed a buff.