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  • Candyman5
    Come get some!
    • Nov 2006
    • 14380

    #2101
    Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

    Originally posted by Bullit
    How am I narrow minded because I want to be able to play a game I paid good money for anytime I want to play it. It has nothing to do with being online in any other form. If a website is down, fine try again later, I did not pay for that website. But I paid for this game and I should be able to play when I want. Which is why I usually stay away from online gaming. If anyone here is being narrow minded it is you. Not to mention your point makes no sense. So basically you are saying if I don't like one thing out of hundreds of types I should avoid them all. So since I don't like Honda's I guess I should never drive any other car, ever? Sorry if my frustration bothers you but there was no need to be insulting.
    Its narrow minded because DDOS attacks are hard to stop and it wasnt just EA that got hit.

    Hell PSN was down for majority of the East coast so are you never again going to get PSN?

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    • RJTurneR
      MVP
      • Aug 2010
      • 2183

      #2102
      Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

      Originally posted by Bullit
      How am I narrow minded because I want to be able to play a game I paid good money for anytime I want to play it. It has nothing to do with being online in any other form. If a website is down, fine try again later, I did not pay for that website. But I paid for this game and I should be able to play when I want. Which is why I usually stay away from online gaming. If anyone here is being narrow minded it is you. Not to mention your point makes no sense. So basically you are saying if I don't like one thing out of hundreds of types I should avoid them all. So since I don't like Honda's I guess I should never drive any other car, ever? Sorry if my frustration bothers you but there was no need to be insulting.
      I didn't mean to come across insulting, sorry. But the point you make above goes to show that it seems to me you really don't understand that it's not very easy to defend against DDoS attacks.

      While I'm not sure anymore and I won't go searching, years ago you could download DDoS software just as easy as downloading flash player.

      Take that into account, then paint a picture of a standard doorway in your head. Now try and cram 500,000 people through that doorway at the same time. See the problem here?

      Honestly, regardless of whether you bought something for money or not, these attacks are becoming more common, more intense, and harder to defend against. Again as I pointed at before, the attack a couple weeks back or whenever it was brought down thousands of services all across the East Coast and large parts of Europe.

      All that from several guys hidden away somewhere flooding servers with WAAAAY more requests than what they were built to deal with it. So you're thinking "Well build them to deal with it" right? Things aren't that simple I'm afraid.

      There are some people in this world if they want something bad enough, they will do anything for it. Cyber criminals are exactly that.

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      • Bullit
        Bacon is Better
        • Aug 2009
        • 5004

        #2103
        Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

        Originally posted by Candyman5
        Its narrow minded because DDOS attacks are hard to stop and it wasnt just EA that got hit.

        Hell PSN was down for majority of the East coast so are you never again going to get PSN?

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        Because PSN does not hinder my ability to do other things. I can still play games, watch movies etc. If online doesn't work in Battlefield I cant play the game. Yes I can go play other games while it is not working, but that is not the point. If I want to play The Witcher right now, I can. If I wan to play The Show right now, I can. If I want to play Battlefield Online, I can't. I paid just as much money for the other games, so why should my expectations be any different.

        I usually chose to stay away from online games just for this reason. It does not make me narrow minded, I am not saying it is a bad game or that others shouldn't play it, like you two are doing. You both are basically saying if I don't like an online game then I should just never go online at all? It's ridiculous.
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        • Bullit
          Bacon is Better
          • Aug 2009
          • 5004

          #2104
          Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

          Originally posted by RJTurneR
          I didn't mean to come across insulting, sorry. But the point you make above goes to show that it seems to me you really don't understand that it's not very easy to defend against DDoS attacks.

          While I'm not sure anymore and I won't go searching, years ago you could download DDoS software just as easy as downloading flash player.

          Take that into account, then paint a picture of a standard doorway in your head. Now try and cram 500,000 people through that doorway at the same time. See the problem here?

          Honestly, regardless of whether you bought something for money or not, these attacks are becoming more common, more intense, and harder to defend against. Again as I pointed at before, the attack a couple weeks back or whenever it was brought down thousands of services all across the East Coast and large parts of Europe.

          All that from several guys hidden away somewhere flooding servers with WAAAAY more requests than what they were built to deal with it. So you're thinking "Well build them to deal with it" right? Things aren't that simple I'm afraid.

          There are some people in this world if they want something bad enough, they will do anything for it. Cyber criminals are exactly that.

          I understand how these attacks work, I worked in the security field for a very long time. I am not blaming EA or Battlefield for that matter. I am just simply stating that I do not like online gaming for just this reason. I don't buy these games as a normal course of my gaming habits, just for this reason. I am not attacking the genre, the company or players of the game. I am sure that when I can play the game, I will continue to enjoy it. But for a matter of personal preference I most likely wont buy another online game.

          This does not mean I should stop using the internet as a whole, or that I don't understand how things work. It is an opinion and a preference, for which I should not be insulted for or to be "talked to" in a condescending way.
          Last edited by Bullit; 10-30-2016, 09:49 AM.
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          My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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          • RJTurneR
            MVP
            • Aug 2010
            • 2183

            #2105
            Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

            Originally posted by Bullit
            This does not mean I should stop using the internet as a whole, or that I don't understand how things work. It is an opinion and a preference, for which I should not be insulted for or to be "talked to" in a condescending way.
            Please don't assume that was the intention.

            Your original post came across as a post of frustration and it appeared as if you were trying to blame EA (And other developers) for the issues that were occurring.

            You've clarified that now, that's fine. But don't feel as if I or Candyman was attacking you. There is no tone to our voices in these posts.

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            • Dog
              aka jnes12/JNes__
              • Aug 2008
              • 11846

              #2106
              Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

              My PS4 is protected with bubble wrap so the DDoS attacks don't affect me at all.


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              • Bullit
                Bacon is Better
                • Aug 2009
                • 5004

                #2107
                Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                I usually wear my tin foil hat, but it itches.
                In Loving memory of my "Cricket" 1/2/96 - 11/19/2012

                My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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                • The JareBear
                  Be Good To One Another
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 11560

                  #2108
                  Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                  Finally had my first 40 kill conquest match thanks to the Rigotti Factory

                  Something about conquest mode is just so unique and chaotic that it's just hard to put down even tho I love domination mode

                  Great time to be a fan of shooters, lot of fun to be had right now
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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22930

                    #2109
                    Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                    Why is Hardcore mode still not out, Dice? It's a bit dumb it didn't even release with the game. I don't enjoy doing only 12 damage a shot.
                    “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                    ― Plato

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                    • Brandwin
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 30621

                      #2110
                      Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                      So are servers not down for everyone? Finally have some free time and can't connect.

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                      • Gerg04
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 2647

                        #2111
                        Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                        Can't "blame" EA for being attacked by DDoS.
                        Can be frustrated the product you paid EA for doesn't work.

                        I think most of us here understand what happens when servers are hit with these attacks. And its not EA's fault a group of *******s choose EA as their target, or the DNS server they're associated with.

                        That doesn't mean paying customers of EA games, Xbox Love, PS Plus can't be upset with the fact that the services doesn't work.

                        Not going "entitled gamer" because I'm the furthest from that. But the point is you pay for something, it should work. Just as much as it isn't EA, Microsoft or Sony's fault, it isn't the consumers fault. So telling someone they shouldn't be upset because it isn't anyone's fault is kind of bogus. And completely avoiding being online because these attacks are possible...is apples to oranges.

                        All Bullit said was this is the reason he doesn't buy multiplayer games. Not sure why he wouldn't have every right to feel that way. Its legitimate. I am just as pissed this happens, but it isn't enough to stop me from buying and playing games online. Regardless, my opinion has nothing to do with his and negates nothing.

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                        • Gerg04
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 2647

                          #2112
                          Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                          Originally posted by Brandwin
                          So are servers not down for everyone? Finally have some free time and can't connect.

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                          I'm in on PC.

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                          • JeremyB
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 707

                            #2113
                            Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                            In on PS4 and can't connect

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                            • Bighoff
                              The Bird is the word
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5312

                              #2114
                              Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                              I'm in on PS4
                              I've heard this "patience is a virtue" junk all my life. I'm happy to say I have no virtue, no scruples, and no desire to wait too long for anything. In my humble opinion instant gratification takes too long!

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                              • Boltman
                                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 18283

                                #2115
                                Re: Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

                                Haven't checked today, I'll be on much later this after / early evening. Hopefully it's running smooth by then.

                                Yesterday there were around 7 of us and it was running pretty bad. Must've been this attack or something.

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