Dota 2

[NoleFan]

Anyone play this game? It’s free to play on Steam and one of the most played games. I’m trying to understand it but I’m getting nowhere. Any tips?


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[cake612]

Re: Dota 2

I'm no expert but I used to play a decent amount, it's been a couple years since I played consistently though.

Don't die
Look at the minimap constantly
Random select so you learn how all the different characters work. You have to play a game or two with them to really figure out what their skills can do. You can start with easier heroes like Tidehunter, Crystal Maiden, Axe, Sven but it helps a lot just to play one game with each character.
Practice last hitting in practice mode. You have to get good at last hitting.
Watch the Day9 and Purge youtube series.
Don't die
Seriously, don't die, just run back to tower or run/TP back to base if you feel a gank coming or think you're in danger.

[NoleFan]

Re: Dota 2

I'm no expert but I used to play a decent amount, it's been a couple years since I played consistently though.



Don't die

Look at the minimap constantly

Random select so you learn how all the different characters work. You have to play a game or two with them to really figure out what their skills can do. You can start with easier heroes like Tidehunter, Crystal Maiden, Axe, Sven but it helps a lot just to play one game with each character.

Practice last hitting in practice mode. You have to get good at last hitting.

Watch the Day9 and Purge youtube series.

Don't die

Seriously, don't die, just run back to tower or run/TP back to base if you feel a gank coming or think you're in danger.

Thanks for the tips cake!


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[cake612]

Re: Dota 2

You got it. It can be very fun and rewarding but also very frustrating. Also, as you may have seen the community is fairly toxic so be prepared to mute chat.

You'll get some good people here and there but also a bunch of nerds that think it's the International and will tell everyone to report you cause you didn't perfectly time an ult.

[sportsdude]

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I've got a lot of time in Dota 2. I actually quit the game twice before it stuck on the third attempt to pick it up. There are some things you need to know before you really get started. First, to say Dota 2 has a huge learning curve is an understatement. There are so many things to learn, and things that Dota intentionally makes harder compared to other games in the genre (such as League of Legends, Heroes of the Storm, Smite, etc). It can be brutal as a newcomer. Don't be discouraged by losses and poor play, because both will happen. Regardless of whether you win or lose games early on each game should be a learning experience.

Second, it will take approximately 50-100 games for the game to determine your hidden MMR. Until then, you will likely find a wide range of skill of the other players in your game. Because of this I would avoid playing any ranked mode for a while.

For newcomers, I strongly recommend Purge's out of game guides.
Welcome to Dota, You Suck: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Purge's Youtube playlists: https://www.youtube.com/user/PurgeGamers/playlists
There is a playlist he made called, "New to Dota, watch this first." Watch that one first. Yes these guides are long, but Purge does a great job explaining things. Trust me, these will help a lot.

One of the biggest hurdles for me when I first started was skills and items. I didn't know when to select which skills, and which items to build. Valve has recommended items for each hero, and you can see this when you open the shop. However, you can actually use in-game guides created by other people that will tell you when to select certain skills, and which items to buy. There are even little notes under each item in the guide telling why that item is a good choice. I typically use TorteDeLini's guides. They are a bit vanilla, but still very good. Here's a video explaining everything about these in-game guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEeu_9KMaAI&t=17s

I know I've given you a lot here, hopefully it will help. Getting into Dota can be very difficult, but once you climb that first hill and you start really learning the game, you'll see how deep and fun it can be.

[NoleFan]

Re: Dota 2

I've got a lot of time in Dota 2. I actually quit the game twice before it stuck on the third attempt to pick it up. There are some things you need to know before you really get started. First, to say Dota 2 has a huge learning curve is an understatement. There are so many things to learn, and things that Dota intentionally makes harder compared to other games in the genre (such as League of Legends, Heroes of the Storm, Smite, etc). It can be brutal as a newcomer. Don't be discouraged by losses and poor play, because both will happen. Regardless of whether you win or lose games early on each game should be a learning experience.



Second, it will take approximately 50-100 games for the game to determine your hidden MMR. Until then, you will likely find a wide range of skill of the other players in your game. Because of this I would avoid playing any ranked mode for a while.



For newcomers, I strongly recommend Purge's out of game guides.

Welcome to Dota, You Suck: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/

Purge's Youtube playlists: https://www.youtube.com/user/PurgeGamers/playlists

There is a playlist he made called, "New to Dota, watch this first." Watch that one first. Yes these guides are long, but Purge does a great job explaining things. Trust me, these will help a lot.



One of the biggest hurdles for me when I first started was skills and items. I didn't know when to select which skills, and which items to build. Valve has recommended items for each hero, and you can see this when you open the shop. However, you can actually use in-game guides created by other people that will tell you when to select certain skills, and which items to buy. There are even little notes under each item in the guide telling why that item is a good choice. I typically use TorteDeLini's guides. They are a bit vanilla, but still very good. Here's a video explaining everything about these in-game guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEeu_9KMaAI&t=17s



I know I've given you a lot here, hopefully it will help. Getting into Dota can be very difficult, but once you climb that first hill and you start really learning the game, you'll see how deep and fun it can be.

Thanks a ton!


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[Phobia]

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DOTA 2 was my first introduction into the MOBA genre. I then tried Heroes of the Storm & League of Legends. After playing all 3 I settled on League of Legends. I found I liked the art direction a little more and the difficulty curve wasn't quite as high, yet it still has a very high skill ceiling.

Debating which one is better between LoL or Dota is like console wars. There is no clear answer and both are great. I suggest trying both then picking which one you favor more and sticking with it. Both are very challenging to learn and will require many many hours to feel confident playing in the PvP arena.

[NoleFan]

Re: Dota 2

So it’s perfectly fine if I just play bot matches to try to learn? And, I'll be trying out League of Legends as well.


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[Phobia]

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So it’s perfectly fine if I just play bot matches to try to learn? And, I'll be trying out League of Legends as well.


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Yea in LoL they suggest you don't even touch PvP until rank 20 at the minimum. So play lots and lots of bot games, learn as much as you can about the character you want to main, what is their role (ex. top lane, jungle, etc), and learn what characters you are facing.

A critical part which isn't discussed much, is learning the characters and their abilities. Knowing who you are facing and what abilities you have to contend with is extremely important. That only comes with putting in hours playing the game.

I'd suggest trying the 3 main options of Heroes of the Storm, League of Legends, and Dota 2 before you get to invested in one of them. I say this because once you find the version you like more, then invest all your time with it and don't split time between a couple of them.

[NoleFan]

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Totally unrelated but I also downloaded WoW. Paid 19.99 and it says I have 1 mo of free gaming. Umm, what did the 19.99 get me? Lol


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[bcruise]

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Totally unrelated but I also downloaded WoW. Paid 19.99 and it says I have 1 mo of free gaming. Umm, what did the 19.99 get me? Lol


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The game itself. That was a one-time purchase for $20, you get one month free, and after that you pay the subscription fee each month.

[NoleFan]

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The game itself. That was a one-time purchase for $20, you get one month free, and after that you pay the subscription fee each month.

So I basically can’t play without a subscription? Think I read something stating I could play up to level 20 with no subscription. Sheesh, there’s like 80 levels after that. Lol


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[NoleFan]

Re: Dota 2

I know some may disagree but I’m already liking LoL better for the tutorial.


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[Phobia]

Re: Dota 2

I know some may disagree but I’m already liking LoL better for the tutorial.


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I personally like LoL more and I started on Dota 2

[TheBleedingRed21]

Re: Dota 2

I disagree not playing PvP in LoL until level 20. You won't get the skills you need and will get dismantled in live play.

I played for quite some time and wasn't ever great. Highest rank I achieved was Silver 3.

Jump in PvP after a few quick bot games and just play. Watch YouTube plays of champions you are interested in. Best way to learn. Look up guides for the active season and follow that build to a T until you feel comfortable building based on how the game is going (this is very important part of the game that will determine your success).

You will die at first and die a lot. Find a role that you like (top, mid, bottom, support or jungle). In low rank, you might not have a jungler but IMO it's the funnest position to play (it's also one of the most difficult positions). It takes time but god is it fun!

P.S. While learning - might want to just mute your teammates. Unforutnely these communities are as toxic as they come.