Saints Row Reboot

[youvalss]

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I hated the static time of day in SR3 and on. To me a dynamic day/night cycle is a bare minimum for an open world game that allows you to free roam for as long as you'd like.

Hopefully developers won't even think about cancelling the game, it may be the last modern open world game of this kind on current gen. The criticism is out of control. Some people behave like the old characters were their family members. These guys are lucky to have this as a major issue in their daily lives...

Developers explained that you start at the bottom and make your way up to a crime organization owning the city. That's freaking awesome to me, be it a classic SR or not. Don't care about the new characters, just need a great open world game with lots of action and interesting city to explore.

I didn't care for WD2's characters, but you know what? You could replace them with broomsticks and I would still have a great time because the open world and action in that game was awesome, in my opinion. Don't even remember what happened to each character or what their stories were, but I still play WD2 and have a blast in free roam.

[KSUowls]

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Yeah it all boils down to what you value in a game. For me the story and the characters are more important than any gameplay mechanics. If this game didn't have Saints Row in the title, then what little we know about the story & characters wouldn't even register for me as something that I would remotely care about.

We'll have to wait for more to be revealed.

[exposedaking]

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I didn't care for WD2's characters, but you know what? You could replace them with broomsticks and I would still have a great time because the open world and action in that game was awesome, in my opinion.

Nobody is going to play ‘broomstick auto’ and I doubt you would either. I know you wasn’t super serious about that but imagine playing a open world game with dope *** graphics, cars, story, etc. but the characters were broomsticks, nah fam.


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[youvalss]

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Nobody is going to play ‘broomstick auto’ and I doubt you would either. I know you wasn’t super serious about that but imagine playing a open world game with dope *** graphics, cars, story, etc. but the characters were broomsticks, nah fam.

Haha, love this gif. I guess I'm different in that the reason I play open world games is because of the potential for endless fun in a living-breathing world. I usually spend much more time in free roam and messing around than playing the story (something like 1:20) - providing there is a living-breathing world around me with interesting layout. Sure it's great to have good characters and story, but that will be gone the moment I finish the story.


I wouldn't care about this game if it didn't provide these things. As of now I assume it will, but that remain to be seen.

[youvalss]

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Seeing all the attacks on the developers and the game actually makes me both being sad and laugh. Sad because developers shouldn't deal with this nonsense, but that has become the main purpose of social media - which brings me to why it makes me laugh.
Social media has become like the drunk guy in a western, pointing at a random stranger and shouting: "There he is, get him" - and the masses run to catch that guy just because they were told to do so.


Quite an era we are living in...

[KSUowls]

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You're not wrong about the overreactions of social media in general, but I also don't think that there is anything inherently wrong with people voicing their displeasure about the direction Volition has taken the series. Voicing that opinion is the only recourse that fans have other than simply not buying the game, which I'm sure they will also exercise that right, but by then its both too late and the exact message of "why" may not accurately come across.

It was fans criticizing EA over Star Wars Battlefront II's egregious microtransaction system a couple of years ago that got it changed, and there are many similar examples where developers changed course due to fan reaction.

[youvalss]

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No problem criticizing, it just went too far, in my opinion. And I keep seeing people insist the old characters need to come back to make it a SR game.

Did SR4 cause the same rage? Because superheroes and aliens are still ok for the SR fans? It's like developers could release The Shadow of the Colossus, just replace the characters with Johnny Gat and Shaundi, and it would be acceptable as a SR game.

[KSUowls]

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For the same reason that you said about social media being generally used as hyper reactive, a simple "I hate this" and move on isnt even worth a footnote, not something exclusive to social media either. So as long as they aren't threatening the developers in some way, which absolutely is taking it too far, then anything else is fair game.

As far as saints row 4 goes, the short answer is yes it was a proper saints row game. I wasnt exactly a fan of that direction, but from a story perspective it still held a certain saints row charm. It was still about the same hyper violent gangsters, finding themelves in increasingly absurd situations. I think many would agree that it became too absurd, but at least it had familiar characters. SR4 certainly wasn't my favorite, but Had the exact game of SR4 been an original IP that featured aliens blowing up the earth and the heroes entering some kind of computer matrix to take revenge...I would not have played that game.

[youvalss]

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SR4 certainly wasn't my favorite, but Had the exact game of SR4 been an original IP that featured aliens blowing up the earth and the heroes entering some kind of computer matrix to take revenge...I would not have played that game.

See, this confirms what I wrote in the last paragraph of my previous post. It's not about the game itself or specifically the story, as it is about the characters. Take the original SR characters, create whatever game you want - and it's a Saints Row game.

I don't really remember the stories/background of the original characters, but in this case of a reboot, it doesn't matter that much. I'm starting to think that if the new game was somewhat of a prequel-reboot about Johnny Gat and Co turning to crime to pay their (or their friends') student loans - suddenly it's a SR game, no problem.

[KSUowls]

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See, this confirms what I wrote in the last paragraph of my previous post. It's not about the game itself or specifically the story, as it is about the characters. Take the original SR characters, create whatever game you want - and it's a Saints Row game.

I don't really remember the stories/background of the original characters, but in this case of a reboot, it doesn't matter that much. I'm starting to think that if the new game was somewhat of a prequel-reboot about Johnny Gat and Co turning to crime to pay their (or their friends') student loans - suddenly it's a SR game, no problem.

Not really, no. Placing established characters into a none-canonical setting, like an alternate universe, is a popular story telling technique. That much is accurate.
However, simply having a character named "Johnny Gat", even if he looks like the one we're used to, doesn't mean anything if he isn't the same "hyper violent gangster" that we're used to. This is what I meant by SR4 still held a certain "charm" because the characters themselves never changed, only the scenarios they were put in.

Put another way. SR 4 was not great, but it worked because of the foundation built by SR 1, 2 & 3. It's much more difficult to swallow the silliness of some kids turning crime over student debt when there isn't already an attachment in place.

edit - Johnny Gat in Shadow of Collosus though could be quite entertaining though

[canes21]

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I think the student debt thing is really being overblown. That was just one thing listed as to why these characters may be turning to crime, but it isn't literally the sole reason they are forming the Saints. I believe 2 of the characters were members of other gangs and are now leaving them to start up the Saints for various reasons.

If it was literally just 3 kids in student debt all deciding to start a gang to pay off their debt, that'd be a bit silly, but from what has been released so far that does not seem to be the case. I don't personally have a problem with any of the characters at the moment. They don't have the feeling of a Julius or Troy or Johnny to them, but the overall game doesn't have the feel that 1 had. They do look like they'd fit right in in Watch Dogs 2, but that doesn't bother me at the moment. I need to see more before I can truly feel one way or the other about the gang and the game overall.

[youvalss]

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Just a little bit more info about the main characters -

https://saintsrow.com/news/santo-ileso-news-sep-21

[youvalss]

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Apparently there is some leaked gameplay as per this article -

https://gamingintel.com/saints-row-gameplay-leak-combat-story-customization/

Couldn't find the original video, must have been taken down, but I found this one, which contains some additional gameplay -

https://youtu.be/cP-Fhqg--pY

[youvalss]

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New Game Informer coverage coming. - need a subscription, I think. The video shows a little bit of the city, which looks good. WD2 vibe for sure.

https://youtu.be/rus2nbjUOl0

[youvalss]

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Some new screenshots:

https://youtu.be/iI6SIKAUlGE