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  • Brandon13
    All Star
    • Oct 2005
    • 8915

    #31
    Re: Making a case for public stonings

    Wow, 90 years? I'm impressed. I know they won't get that but with a maximum sentence like that, you'd think they'd have a good chance at spending a long time in prison.

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    • theaub
      Stop! Homer Time!
      • Feb 2004
      • 9643

      #32
      Re: Making a case for public stonings

      Yeah, I'd have to say this is a perfect example of where retribution (i.e. putting them in an oven) works just fine.
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      • Jimplication
        MVP
        • Aug 2004
        • 3591

        #33
        Re: Making a case for public stonings

        Originally posted by Knight165
        I think you're taking what he said out of context with your reply.

        I think I know what he means.........An animal being abused has no real way to convey that abuse. You could walk by a dog everyday in it's yard and see it laying there and not realize that everyday when it's "owner" gets home he gets beat. There is no way for the dog to tell you that. A human can. But the animal is pretty helpless in that capacity.
        Basically.

        People are able to be aware and have the ability to generally comprehend the situations that occur in life pretty fully. Furthermore, they are free to roam at will and leave an enviornment that is abusive or unenjoyable, to an extent.

        People that are abused or beaten generally understand the situation and are able to leave and/or seek help, generally. An abused animal has none of these benefits. They are permanently trapped in an enclosure and are reoutinely abused by the one person they are forced to trust, if only by association. They don't know why, they can't leave, and in most cases no one is going to be aware of the abuse, nor will they be able to help them.

        If you can imagine what it would be like to be an abused animal living trapped in a house with an abusive owner for an entire lifetime, I personally think it would put my comments into perspective.

        Abused people are in unfortunate situations also, but they have many more options in regards to stopping, or getting away from, the violence. Animals don't have a single option, and are resigned to a life of fear, confusion, and chaos. People that abuse them get absolutely no sympathy from me, and I think they should be punished severely.

        Taking in an animal as a pet is a huge responsibility, and not something done for fun, or as a means for adding a new sort of toy. They can't be neglected or thrown aside when they lose their initial appeal, and those that do neglect, abuse, or generally harm animals should suffer consequences on par with mistreating their children or immediate family.

        I honestly would not take much issue with the people that put their dog in the oven being given the death penalty. I do not see what benefit they can offer to a society that considers itself to be civilized. The most unfortunate thing to me is that animal abuse is not an isolated problem. I know people that enjoy harming animals to some extent, and I consider myself to be a part of a relatively small social network. To expand that out over an entire state, country, and ultimately, world, means there are a lot of abused animals out there; and while I'm generally a ridiculously positive person, that alone makes me very sad when I think about it.
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        • BGarrett7
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 5890

          #34
          Re: Making a case for public stonings

          I have no doubt that these two will absolutely get theirs when behind bars. If there's one thing that even the lowlifes of our society look down on, it's those who prey on the defenseless.

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          • Spectre
            Th* ******
            • Mar 2003
            • 5853

            #35
            Re: Making a case for public stonings

            Originally posted by BGarrett7
            I have no doubt that these two will absolutely get theirs when behind bars. If there's one thing that even the lowlifes of our society look down on, it's those who prey on the defenseless.
            Yeah, animal cruelty (especially a freakin puppy!) won't get you huge rep points in jail. I'm sure the mass murderers are shaking in their boots. I hope there's a Nasty Nate in the prison where these guys end up.Good riddance- they deserve everything they'll get in prison.

            I'm not a big dog fan but I absolutely adore puppies. It's when they get bigger that I lose interest but puppies/kittens/etc. are too damn cute.

            Disgusting- I got images of it in my head now. Ugh...

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            • Psyblast
              2023 National Champions
              • Jun 2003
              • 42582

              #36
              Re: Making a case for public stonings

              Read about this a couple days ago.

              ****ing vile.

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              • The C
                Banned
                • Apr 2005
                • 7538

                #37
                Re: Making a case for public stonings

                I would think you would have to give them life in prison. I do not think people so disturbed could ever be rehabilitated. Jail almost seems to good for them.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #38
                  Re: Making a case for public stonings

                  So is it because it was a puppy, sure that is evil no doubt, but what about people that kill other animals like squirrel, skunks, and rabbits. Is it because dogs are pets. I still think what these kids did is wrong and I hope they get some time, but what if these kids cooked a rabbit, or some other animal, would there still be all these discussions going on?

                  In other countries puppies are food, so should they be put to death!

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                  • Psyblast
                    2023 National Champions
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 42582

                    #39
                    Re: Making a case for public stonings

                    Originally posted by Scottd
                    So is it because it was a puppy, sure that is evil no doubt, but what about people that kill other animals like squirrel, skunks, and rabbits. Is it because dogs are pets. I still think what these kids did is wrong and I hope they get some time, but what if these kids cooked a rabbit, or some other animal, would there still be all these discussions going on?

                    Yes.


                    In other countries puppies are food, so should they be put to death!

                    Dogs that are used for food in other countries are not put in ovens while they are alive. They are also not used for amusement where people try to set them on fire after pouring paint on them. It's not even CLOSE. These scumbags didn't kill the puppy because they wanted food. They killed the puppy because they are human garbage.

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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #40
                      Re: Making a case for public stonings

                      Originally posted by Psyblast
                      Yes.





                      Dogs that are used for food in other countries are not put in ovens while they are alive. They are also not used for amusement where people try to set them on fire after pouring paint on them. It's not even CLOSE. These scumbags didn't kill the puppy because they wanted food. They killed the puppy because they are human garbage.
                      I can agree with that. So it is how they did it. People cook Lobsters alive I never agree with that, but I agree with you. These kids are scum and it was wrong!

                      So if it was some other animal it would have been cool?
                      Last edited by Scottdau; 01-28-2007, 10:12 PM.

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                      • Graphik
                        Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 10582

                        #41
                        Re: Making a case for public stonings

                        Wow, first I've heard of this. That is absolutely sick. These kids obviously should be taken to some sort of mental institution. More than likely these kids would of become sadistic murderers in some years. They deserve everything that comes to them.
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                        • IlliniM1ke
                          Heroes Never Die
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 8082

                          #42
                          Re: Making a case for public stonings

                          Originally posted by The C
                          I would think you would have to give them life in prison. I do not think people so disturbed could ever be rehabilitated. Jail almost seems to good for them.
                          Agree, I honestly don't know what can possess a person to beat or kill an animal (or another person for that matter) but to put a defenseless puppy in an oven there are some major problems with that person that I don't think can ever be fixed, thats way beyond sick.

                          I hope they get all 90 years possible and they'll definitely get theirs in prison.
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                          • Dallasin2K3
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3135

                            #43
                            Re: Making a case for public stonings

                            Well, have fun in jail.
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                            • luv_mist
                              Older
                              • May 2004
                              • 9596

                              #44
                              Re: Making a case for public stonings

                              Holy crap. I'm kind of numb to this only because the kids were freaking smart enough to know better. They were 17 & 19. How old do you have to be before your conscience tells you that something is wrong? I feel bad that they're heading to jail but I feel worse for the puppy. I can't even imagine what they felt when they heard the small pleading of the puppy. Man, if it were me and I was the judge, I'd sentence them to live in a cage for 24 hours with a pack of hyenas. What do other governments do for situations like these? Is there a site that where punishment can be compared among the major governments??

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                              • WTF
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20274

                                #45
                                Re: Making a case for public stonings

                                I feel no sympathy for these kids going to jail. For the act that they committed, I think thats letting them off easy. I'm sorry, but I can't stand stuff like this.
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