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  • Dice
    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #31
    Re: Had to put the family dogs down

    I would request that this thread wouldn't be locked just yet. Give it just at least one more post before locking. I'm up to criticism but in a respectful way.
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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    • Jistic
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 16405

      #32
      Re: Had to put the family dogs down

      Answer to above question is D. All of the above.

      My issue is with your dad then. Again the old, blind, loyal dog gets put down for what? He's no longer convenient. Pick a dam apartment that allows pets.

      We'll all be old and unwanted and burdensome to someone someday. I hopefully the people that love us, that we've been loyal to, take care of us.

      Family pets deserve no less. I see no problem euthanising pets if they are medically too far gone and in pain, or they are a danger to people, especially children. Anything else because of lifestyle changes is weak, irresponsible, and selfish.
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      • Dice
        Sitting by the door
        • Jul 2002
        • 6627

        #33
        Re: Had to put the family dogs down

        Originally posted by Jistic
        Answer to above question is D. All of the above.

        My issue is with your dad then. Again the old, blind, loyal dog gets put down for what? He's no longer convenient. Pick a dam apartment that allows pets.

        We'll all be old and unwanted and burdensome to someone someday. I hopefully the people that love us, that we've been loyal to, take care of us.

        Family pets deserve no less. I see no problem euthanising pets if they are medically too far gone and in pain, or they are a danger to people, especially children. Anything else because of lifestyle changes is weak, irresponsible, and selfish.
        I'm glad you responded to my question. I would actually value your opinion more on this topic.

        And as far as my dad goes, dogs normally grow on people but the oldest dog just never grew on him. For all my life my father just never liked dogs BUT we had them because my mom and brother and sister wanted one. So he just never liked dogs from the start. Besides, can you have an issue with someone who doesn't like dogs?

        And it's funny how you mention how we get old and unwanted and burdensome to someone someday. My dad says when he gets to that point he wants to be put in a nursing home. And if no one in the family is willing to do it he'll try to walk himself to one.
        I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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        • MassNole
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 18848

          #34
          Re: Had to put the family dogs down

          I am not going to read this whole thread, but seeing that the 6 year old will be adopted out is great. I am a huge animal lover and I cannot really think of a more humane thing to do with the 14 year old dog. The worst case would be that it died from a broken heart, which is the last thing I'd ever wish upon an animal.

          I am sorry for your loss, losing pets is always hard.

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          • Jistic
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 16405

            #35
            Re: Had to put the family dogs down

            Originally posted by Dice
            I'm glad you responded to my question. I would actually value your opinion more on this topic.

            And as far as my dad goes, dogs normally grow on people but the oldest dog just never grew on him. For all my life my father just never liked dogs BUT we had them because my mom and brother and sister wanted one. So he just never liked dogs from the start. Besides, can you have an issue with someone who doesn't like dogs?

            And it's funny how you mention how we get old and unwanted and burdensome to someone someday. My dad says when he gets to that point he wants to be put in a nursing home. And if no one in the family is willing to do it he'll try to walk himself to one.
            Hopefully your dad will be fortunate to walk himself into anything when he's too old to care for himself. We rarely get to choose at our own terms. But your dog had no choice.

            If he doesn't like dogs, then whoever is responsible for bringing that dog into the home is responsible for the dogs well being. If it was your mom's dog then she is responsible.
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            • jmood88
              Sean Payton: Retribution
              • Jul 2003
              • 34639

              #36
              Re: Had to put the family dogs down

              Originally posted by cjonesfan921
              He said they didn't put the 6 year old to sleep. Calm down, guys. Like he said, there was no room for the dog in his house as he has 2 or 3 others. His parents moved in to an apartment that doesn't allow any pets, whether that was the right choice or not, is not our problem.

              He said the place he dropped off said that they will try to find a place for the 6 year old.
              And they aren't his dogs, they're his parent's dogs.
              Originally posted by Blzer
              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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              • jim416
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 10606

                #37
                Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                Mine are family. They should be treated as such. I've cried when they "had" to be put down and when I could they are buried in my backyard with a marker. My current dog actually gets separation anxiety and scolds me when I return to the house. He goes just about everyplace with me.

                Can't imagine this.

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                • BGarrett7
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5890

                  #38
                  Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                  Originally posted by Dice
                  As stated, I'm not upset that you disagree BUT going out of bounds to call someone stupid is crossing the line. And as stated, if you want to blame someone of this blame my dad. He's the one that made the decision.
                  I'm not blaming anyone besides your parents, I apologize if it came across that way. It was not your place to take in the dogs -- granted, a little effort to find a new home would've been appreciated -- so I don't blame you in the slightest. As for calling someone stupid because they found a new home that would not accommodate a pet and they just disposed of them quite nonchalantly, I feel is quite stupid and very irresponsible.

                  Originally posted by Dice
                  As with the decision to move into a place that doesn't allow pets...that was my dad's decision. My dad is not a big dog lover. Matter of fact, he doesn't care for them to much. It's my mom who loves dogs. For any man that's been married for at least 5 years, haven't you made a decision that your wife did not agree with? I've only been married for 1.5 years and I made some of those decisions. I understand that marriage is a mutual thing BUT from where I'm from the MAN still runs the household.
                  Yes, there have been decisions along those lines. However, none of them have resulted in the abandoning or euthanization of another living animal. One of the main reasons I love my wife is because of the devotion and adoration she has towards dogs. In fact, our second dog, I actually agreed to take in before actually reaching a full-on agreement with her. As for your dog not being a dog person, then perhaps he shouldn't be the part owner of a couple of dogs. I mean, it kinda goes without saying that he isn't a "dog person" based on the fact that he was so free and willing to abandon two which have lived under his roof for such a long period of time.

                  Originally posted by Dice
                  Maybe it's just a matter of misunderstanding because I know there are a lot of intelligent posters on this board. I'm starting to believe that the title of this thread was the sticking point. Maybe I should have titled it, "Had to put one of my favorite dog to sleep". Or "Took a trip to the Anti-Cruelty Society". Or maybe even, "All Dogs go to Heaven".
                  The title of the thread, and even the fact that they were put to sleep, is irrelevant to me. The point that strikes me is that someone who is responsible for another living soul would voluntarily move somewhere in which it would not be allowed. If you have dogs, cats, birds, any type of pet, unless you have already made arrangements for them to live elsewhere, do not decide on somewhere to live that will not accommodate them. Especially if it is such a last minute thought that you have no other option but to take them to a humane society. That is such a selfish act it makes me sick.

                  Originally posted by Dice
                  Question I'd like to ask some of you. How many currently:
                  a. Own or owned dogs more than 10 years
                  b. Have or had children living with them
                  c. Married or been married
                  d. All the above

                  I think when you factor these elements then you have to start prioritizing your life. Kids and your spouse have an affect on you when you make decisions that similar to this. Dogs come after kids and spouse. Anyone who disagrees is single with no kids OR needs to have their head examined.
                  Like I said above, I am not blaming you. However, I do agree on your statement that "dogs come after kids and spouse." My dogs are on level ground with my wife, she knows this, accepts it, and feels the same way. I don't put them above her, I don't put her above them. I love my wife and would do anything for her, the same holds true for my dogs. Just like I wouldn't move into a single bedroom apartment that could only accommodate myself and no one else, I would not move into an apartment or any other type of community which does not allow pets.

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                  • Dice
                    Sitting by the door
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6627

                    #39
                    Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                    Originally posted by BGarrett7
                    It was not your place to take in the dogs -- granted, a little effort to find a new home would've been appreciated -- so I don't blame you in the slightest. As for calling someone stupid because they found a new home that would not accommodate a pet and they just disposed of them quite nonchalantly, I feel is quite stupid and very irresponsible.
                    Trust me, I've helped with finding a home for them. Unfortunately, I can only do so much. My mom has done the same, even harder since she doesn't work and has time. Not too many people take in older dogs. And As far as giving them up nonchalantly, that's my dad for you.

                    Originally posted by BGarrett7
                    Yes, there have been decisions along those lines. However, none of them have resulted in the abandoning or euthanization of another living animal. One of the main reasons I love my wife is because of the devotion and adoration she has towards dogs. In fact, our second dog, I actually agreed to take in before actually reaching a full-on agreement with her. As for your dog not being a dog person, then perhaps he shouldn't be the part owner of a couple of dogs. I mean, it kinda goes without saying that he isn't a "dog person" based on the fact that he was so free and willing to abandon two which have lived under his roof for such a long period of time.
                    It's great you and your wife loves dogs BUT not all people go into marrige because they both love dogs. In most...matter of fact all marriges... there are some things that one might like that the other doesn't care too much for. There was a compromise. My mom loved dogs, my father didn't like them. Doesn't mean he hates them BUT he just didn't care too much for them. So as a compromise my mom could have a dog in the house as long as she took care of it. Now it's understandable if he was alergic to dogs BUT he gave in and let her have a dog. My mom actually didn't get a dog until I was born. My dad is not a dog guy because he doesn't hold dog in a high regard like other people. He doesn't abuse the dogs but he feels that he shouldn't be responsible for them since you have to take care of them like your own children. And just because the dog lives under your roof doesn't mean that the dog will grow on you. We've had a couple of dogs live with us and he didn't care too much for them. My mother was the one that made the decision to get the dogs. Besides, it was her house also.

                    Originally posted by BGarrett7
                    The title of the thread, and even the fact that they were put to sleep, is irrelevant to me.
                    And this is why the title is confusing because they weren't put to sleep. Just the older one.




                    It's getting bad. Not to a point where people are disresptful BUT people are not reading, or not understanding, the posts in this thread. Just some advice, please make sure you read the entire thread if your going reply to someone elses comments. I know some threads are long BUT if you read them there is a higher possibilty to get your point across instead of either: A) Giving incorrect information. B) Saying something some else mentioned before. C) Sounding like an idiot.

                    I'm not suggesting this BUT to the admin discretion, close the thread if you feel viable. It seems like a lot of people are posting off of emotion and not off what they are reading and understanding.
                    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                    • davehughes14
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 789

                      #40
                      Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                      Tough story man. Sorry for your loss Dice.

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                      • BGarrett7
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5890

                        #41
                        Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                        Originally posted by Dice
                        And this is why the title is confusing because they weren't put to sleep. Just the older one.
                        Just to clarify, I'm well aware of the situation concerning the dogs, that was a mere slip on my part.

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                        • kennytomson
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 757

                          #42
                          Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                          Your family should have made a greater attempt to adjust your life for those animals. Did your mom even put up a fight towards your dad to look anywhere else for a home that did allow pets? Did you try and make your home available to the dogs? You said you have 2 dogs already, you could have at least given it 6 months to see if everyone could coexist. But you didn’t. Outside of pain or injury to another human being/animal you should never have your pets put in a pound or killed. No excuse. Your family made the decision to own pets, your family should make the necessary sacrifice to accommodate them for the run of their natural life.

                          Married, baby in may, 2 dogs. And I’m not some over zealous PETA card carrier. I’m just someone who values life and tries best to honor my responsibilities.

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                          • Hootiefish
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 933

                            #43
                            Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                            Originally posted by kennytomson
                            Your family should have made a greater attempt to adjust your life for those animals. Did your mom even put up a fight towards your dad to look anywhere else for a home that did allow pets? Did you try and make your home available to the dogs? You said you have 2 dogs already, you could have at least given it 6 months to see if everyone could coexist. But you didn’t. Outside of pain or injury to another human being/animal you should never have your pets put in a pound or killed. No excuse. Your family made the decision to own pets, your family should make the necessary sacrifice to accommodate them for the run of their natural life.

                            Married, baby in may, 2 dogs. And I’m not some over zealous PETA card carrier. I’m just someone who values life and tries best to honor my responsibilities.
                            No offense to the original poster, as I understand that you are probably going through enough anguish over everything, but I 100% agree with this post.

                            When someone makes the decision to own a pet, they need to respect that animal as if it were another member of the family (because it is). Efforts need to be made to find a home accepting of pets or a family member that could have taken the animals. If for no other reason than the fact that the 14 year old dog deserved the honor of living out its final days in comfort, not in a pound's euthanization chamber.
                            Overall satisfaction also makes the decline!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                            • dave360
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 4081

                              #44
                              Re: Had to put the family dogs down

                              This is what happens when animals are treated as property. Animals aren't property. They breathe, they feel, they hurt and are living organisms. I'd never move into a house or an apartment where I couldn't take my animals with me. They're as much a part of my family as I or my wife are and will never be taken for granted. We have a responsibility as human beings to take care of the same animals that we've domesticated over thousands of years. I take care of feral cats in my area and pay for spay/neuters for them as well as feral dogs. I feel it's my responsibility as a human being to take care of those animals that don't have a home or can't take care of themselves due to a big letdown by humans.

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