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  • Dipstick
    Banned
    • Feb 2007
    • 659

    #16
    Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

    If you know it's gonna offend someone,why do it? It just boggles my mind how some people will do things that they know will offend somebody and then when they get called out on it,they always hit the "oh I didn't mean anything by it." Of course they mean something by it,otherwise they wouldn't do it.

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    • TheLetterZ
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 6752

      #17
      Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

      Exactly, Dipstick. It's one thing to blame political correctness when the comment or action was not intended to be hurtful, but these kids clearly knew exactly what they were doing.

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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52938

        #18
        Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

        Darn, I wish the debate forum was used. I'd love to say a lot of things that I can't say here.

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        • bsb13
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 3439

          #19
          Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

          I try not to eat pork myself becuse of the health laws in the bible but I just wouldnt get bent out of shape about something like that, but I'm not a kid anymore either. Kids are going to be cruel, they always have been and they always will be. You cant make it a big deal everytime a kid offends someone. Kids are offensive, its what they do best.

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          • jmood88
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            • Jul 2003
            • 34639

            #20
            Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

            Originally posted by ZXLT
            Exactly, Dipstick. It's one thing to blame political correctness when the comment or action was not intended to be hurtful, but these kids clearly knew exactly what they were doing.
            Seriously. It shouldn't be prosectuted but those kids aren't just innocent bystanders who didn't mean anything by it.
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            • Hootiefish
              Pro
              • Aug 2002
              • 933

              #21
              Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

              Originally posted by jmood88
              Seriously. It shouldn't be prosectuted but those kids aren't just innocent bystanders who didn't mean anything by it.
              Correct. But, these are still just middle schoolers who probably don't know the implications beyond "Muslims don't like pork."

              Irresponsible, but not a hate crime.
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              • NoleFan
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 12856

                #22
                Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

                This is why things are the way they are. I'm my opinion there probably isn't enough "political correctness" in the world regarding some things. But, anyway, you feel how you feel.

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                • Skerik
                  Living in this tube
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 5215

                  #23
                  Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

                  Within the past several months, there was a similarly offensive situation in another US public school. A mormon girl was being harrassed by classmates who asked her things like, "Do you have 10 moms?" She responded with, "That's so gay." The mormon girl got in trouble for her gay remark, but no punishment befell those who harrassed her for her religious beliefs.

                  Ask yourselves why that situation is different from this one. On the whole, I'm pretty shocked with the comments here. As a society we're PC-ing ourselves into oblivion, but most people here seem to welcome it. Surprising. And sad.

                  I agree that what the kids did was rude and intentionally hurtful, but guess what, welcome to school. This kind of stuff has been going on there since the dawn of time. When it happens the offending kids get scolded and everyone moves on with their lives. But this situation is just completely ludicrous.
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                  • Stu
                    All Star
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 7924

                    #24
                    Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

                    Originally posted by Hootiefish
                    Correct. But, these are still just middle schoolers who probably don't know the implications beyond "Muslims don't like pork."

                    Irresponsible, but not a hate crime.
                    Exactly. At that age kids will say things they know are offensive without really understanding why they're offensive. Should they be punished? Yes, but classifying this as a hate crime is going way overboard.
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                    • MassNole
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 18848

                      #25
                      Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

                      Originally posted by Skerik
                      Within the past several months, there was a similarly offensive situation in another US public school. A mormon girl was being harrassed by classmates who asked her things like, "Do you have 10 moms?" She responded with, "That's so gay." The mormon girl got in trouble for her gay remark, but no punishment befell those who harrassed her for her religious beliefs.

                      Ask yourselves why that situation is different from this one. On the whole, I'm pretty shocked with the comments here. As a society we're PC-ing ourselves into oblivion, but most people here seem to welcome it. Surprising. And sad.

                      I agree that what the kids did was rude and intentionally hurtful, but guess what, welcome to school. This kind of stuff has been going on there since the dawn of time. When it happens the offending kids get scolded and everyone moves on with their lives. But this situation is just completely ludicrous.
                      That is a much less harsh way to say what I am thinking on the issue.

                      Seriously these kids in Maine are in trouble for this, when I was a kid I had people who would kick the crap out of me and maybe get detention. I had someone spread rumors I was gay (that was taken care of on my own and didn't involve a beat down). This was only 10 years ago. The direction we are heading in society is scary.

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                      • MassNole
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 18848

                        #26
                        Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

                        Originally posted by camulos
                        Exactly. At that age kids will say things they know are offensive without really understanding why they're offensive. Should they be punished? Yes, but classifying this as a hate crime is going way overboard.
                        Punishing this outside of the school setting is taking it too far. These kids should probably see some detention maybe an in school suspension. Ironically, the punishment I would hand out, making them research and do a report on why Muslim's feel the way they do about pork, would inevitably bring about a further bastardization of the Establishment Clause.

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                        • Brandwin
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 30621

                          #27
                          Re: Hate crime for ham sandwich

                          If they want to punish the kids, fine...but a hate crime? LOL sure....

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