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  • Trevytrev11
    MVP
    • Nov 2006
    • 3259

    #1

    Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

    If you were a manager/owner of a corporation, would you risk losing a lifetime customer over $30?

    So about 5 month's ago, I purchased a digital camera online from Best Buy. On the web page for the camera it said "Free $30 Gift Card with Purchase." So a week later, I get the camera in the mail and there is no gift card. I call up Best Buy, and they tell me that I had to purchase a printer as well as the camera to get my gift card. I tell them I didn't recall seeing that, but they said that the "Free $30 Gift Card with Purchase" was actually a link to another page that explained the promotion in full.

    So I go back to the web page and sure enough, it is a link. There were three lines on the left side:
    "On Sale"
    "Free Shipping"
    "Free $30 Gift Card with Purchase"

    Only the bottom one was a link, the other two were not. They all looked identical, though. Apperantly I was supposed to hover my mouse over every inch of the page searching for a link.

    There was no asterisk next to it or something else telling me there was a footnot explaining that the additional purchase of a printer was needed. There was nothing that said "Click here for more details". It just said "Free $30 Gift Card with Purchase."

    So instead of calling, I decide to send emails so that I can get everything in writing. I went back and forth about 6 or 7 times with about 4 different people and they wouldn't budge. One of them even said "We understand that our promotions can some times be confusing, but at this time there is nothing further we can do."

    So I call back and speak with the Customer Service Manager and explain everything and tell him that I have every email printed out (even the one of them admitting that they have confusing promotions). I also ask if he can pull up my Best Buy account history. I tell him that he will see that I've spent several thousand dollars over the last year including (not including a $2K tv, I paid cash for) and plan on spending much more as we just moved into a new house and I need to set up a few more rooms. He confirms that he see's this on his side. I basically ask him if he is willing to throw away that kind of customer over $30. He says that he is sorry, but he cannot do anything. So I told him that I fully intend to file a complaint with the FTC (don't know if it will matter, but my co-worker said that a legit complaint usually results in a $5K or so fin). And then I asked him to transfer me to their credit people so I could close my account.

    So I close my account, file my complaint with the FTC, return my TV (how convienent that something went wrong a month before the warranty expired ) and returend about $800 worth of indoor speakers that I hadn't installed yet.

    Finally, I took a copy of the letter I sent to the FTC, their aknowledgement of it's receipt, the letter from Best Buy stating my credit card had been closed, the return receipt of over $3,000 (with tax) of my TV and speakers as well as a new receipt from Circuit City where I re-purchased the equipment and every email that was sent back and forth and put it all in a nice little envelope and mailed it to the office with a note that read "Hope all this was worth $30."

    I know it won't matter to them, but it felt good. I hope that moron get's fired and now I smile everytime I drive past Best Buy on my way to Circuit City. I haven't stepped in a Best Buy since then and only browse their site in order to get a price match for Circuit City or Fry's, etc. Now, on that same camera, the link now says "Free $30 Gift Card with Purchase of Camera and Printer"

    I still can't believe that they through a good customer away over something so small. It's not like I went there to buy a CD every few month's, I spent a lot of $$$ there and intended to keep doing so. It just seems stupid.

    Maybe I see it different, but I work for a company that prides itself on customer service and will always bite the bullet to keep a customer happy. If that happened at my company, I'm pretty sure someone would have been fired.
  • pfunk880
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 4452

    #2
    Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

    I think that's awesome.

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    • fishepa
      I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
      • Feb 2003
      • 18989

      #3
      Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

      I think it's ridiculous that you went to all that trouble just because of a $30 gift card.

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      • cjonesfan921
        UGH, next year
        • Jan 2005
        • 20081

        #4
        Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

        Originally posted by fishepa
        I think it's ridiculous that you went to all that trouble just because of a $30 gift card.
        It's not ridiculous at all. I think it's great. My manager always goes the extra mile for a customer. I think he goes too far. He gives them discounts for nothing. He says we lose a couple bucks here but gain more in the end because they will come back and buy from here.

        What Trev did was more then reasonable, if they don't value his money then go somewhere else. It was more then just $30, it was principle. They obviously don't give a **** about him, because if they did they would have given the gift card. I'm sure Circuit City is happy to have him as a customer.

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        • Trevytrev11
          MVP
          • Nov 2006
          • 3259

          #5
          Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

          Originally posted by fishepa
          I think it's ridiculous that you went to all that trouble just because of a $30 gift card.
          I did it all at work, so no sweat off my back. Hell, I probably spend more time on OS in a week at work then I did handling all of that..it's more about the principle of the matter anyway. Plus, $30 is half of a video game (or in this case was going to be used to get a 2GB card for my new cameral).

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          • Trevytrev11
            MVP
            • Nov 2006
            • 3259

            #6
            Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

            Originally posted by cjonesfan921
            It's not ridiculous at all. I think it's great. My manager always goes the extra mile for a customer. I think he goes too far. He gives them discounts for nothing. He says we lose a couple bucks here but gain more in the end because they will come back and buy from here.

            What Trev did was more then reasonable, if they don't value his money then go somewhere else. It was more then just $30, it was principle. They obviously don't give a **** about him, because if they did they would have given the gift card. I'm sure Circuit City is happy to have him as a customer.
            Plus as they always say, if someone gets good customer service, they may tell 1 person, but if they get bad customer service, they will tell 10. This is me telling who knows how many, but I'm sure it will be much more than 10.

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            • ehh
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2003
              • 28959

              #7
              Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

              Great story. I'm glad you refused to take their BS answers, there is always something you can do when a crappy CS department says, "there is nothing we can do." Customer Service is the most important aspect to any company, big or small. My small business would not be where it is today if it wasn't for great customer service. Constant following up, quick responses, thank you cards, the random site visit, etc. It's much easier to do when you have a small business because you can do the work yourself while these huge corporations have mindless idiots who don't know their *** from their elbow reading pre-made procedures to handle a situation.

              I'm also glad to hear you didn't go ahead an file a frivolous lawsuit.
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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #8
                Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                Originally posted by fishepa
                I think it's ridiculous that you went to all that trouble just because of a $30 gift card.
                I agree, it is kind of ridiculous.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #9
                  Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                  Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                  Plus as they always say, if someone gets good customer service, they may tell 1 person, but if they get bad customer service, they will tell 10. This is me telling who knows how many, but I'm sure it will be much more than 10.
                  No store is perfect. I have had problems at Best Buy and Circuit City, but I guess I handle things different. I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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                  • Trevytrev11
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 3259

                    #10
                    Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                    Originally posted by Scottd
                    No store is perfect. I have had problems at Best Buy and Circuit City, but I guess I handle things different. I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.
                    What would that benefit of the doubt be?

                    That they can purposely (they admitted that their promotions are confusing) hide the details of promotions to lure customers into buying products and then not making good with their promotion?

                    The fact they changed the promotion afterwards to clearly state that you have to buy both the camera and the printer shows that they knew they were wrong. So knowing they were wrong, they did nothing to help out the person they wronged. F-them just for that. It's one thing to not see your own fault, but when you recognize your fault and still refuse to make the situation right, then it's intentional.

                    It's also one thing when a punk kid answering emails says something, but when i thought a manager would take care of a customer.

                    Also, I've had a few other instances with Best Buy, the other main one being that they refused to honor their own 30-day price match guarantee, which was about a $200 drop in the price of a TV. I eventually got my money back, but it took 3 trips back to the store and conversations with 3 different managers.
                    Last edited by Trevytrev11; 10-15-2007, 01:18 PM.

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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #11
                      Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                      Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                      What would that benefit of the doubt be?

                      That they can purposely (they admitted that their promotions are confusing) hide the details of promotions to lure customers into buying products and then not making good with their promotion?

                      The fact they changed the promotion afterwards to clearly state that you have to buy both the camera and the printer shows that they knew they were wrong. So knowing they were wrong, they did nothing to help out the person they wronged. F-them just for that.

                      It's also one thing when a punk kid answering emails says something, but when i thought a manager would take care of a customer.

                      Also, I've had a few other instances with Best Buy, the other main one being that they refused to honor their own 30-day price match guarantee, which was about a $200 drop in the price of a TV. I eventually got my money back, but it took 3 trips back to the store and conversations with 3 different managers.
                      I know, but that is life. Oh well we just see it different. If I was to stop going to stores that screw me over, that would be a lot of stores. It is called being sneaky and almost every business does it. I am just used to it and really don't care. The bottom line is it is all about getting your dollar. lol So I do see your point, I just wouldn't care, but that is just me. Also, I like Bestbuy so that would suck if I could never go in there again.

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                      • ubernoob
                        ****
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 15522

                        #12
                        Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                        To be honest, it's spilled milk. Read the fine print.

                        Don't expect mom and pop service from a big store, don't expect big store prices and quantity and mom and pop stores.
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                        • Trevytrev11
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 3259

                          #13
                          Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                          Originally posted by ubernoob
                          To be honest, it's spilled milk. Read the fine print.

                          Don't expect mom and pop service from a big store, don't expect big store prices and quantity and mom and pop stores.
                          Wasn't expecting either....just for them to honor their own promotion. The problem was there was no fine print. The fine print was hidden on the link,which I did not know existed because it was formatted the same as two other itmes that were not links. It was not spelled out within the discription and pricing of the item. It's not like I was asking them to order something special tha they don't carry in their stores or ship me something for free or go out of there way in any way shape or form.

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                          • mgoblue
                            Go Wings!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 25477

                            #14
                            Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                            Originally posted by fishepa
                            I think it's ridiculous that you went to all that trouble just because of a $30 gift card.
                            I agree...I understand it's the principle of the matter, but still...You know the amount of time it'd take to return all that, buy it all again, and set it up? A week or so of my time isn't worth a measly 30 bucks.
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                            • Trevytrev11
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 3259

                              #15
                              Re: Bad/Stupid Customer Service?

                              Originally posted by mgoblue
                              I agree...I understand it's the principle of the matter, but still...You know the amount of time it'd take to return all that, buy it all again, and set it up? A week or so of my time isn't worth a measly 30 bucks.
                              Maybe, but to each their own I guess.

                              Except for the TV, everything else was still in packaging. So it was jut throwing it in the truck and driving 5 miles. Everything else was done from my computer at work. It was actually more pleasure than anything. There was a sense of gratification when explaining to the manager that I was returning almost $3K worth of stuff because of their poor customer service. (He tried to hit my with a 10% restocking fee on the stero equipment, but because they weren't opened, he couldn't). Which I then told, it was that kind of crap that is making me not want to shop there anymore. He didn't get it.

                              I understand the time wasn't worth the money, but f-it. I didn't care at that point. Sometimes, you go out of your way to make a point just because you feel like saying F-U in a different way.

                              I guess you can also flip that around and say that for only $30, they would have just said screw it and sent the card (which I was hoping would be the outcome), but instead, it cost them a few grand in sales and a lot more in future sales. Not a big $$$ amount to a large company, but oh well.

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