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  • Mavs2003champs
    Rookie
    • May 2003
    • 65

    #1

    I need advice please...

    I don't normally post my problems but I really like this girl and this is my situation. Does anybody here think I have a shot?


    A co-worker of mine told her single cousin about me and that I had just gotten out of a relationship. She told her cousin that I was a great guy and her cousin told her to tell me to request her on myspace. I do and we exchange messages and I eventually get her number.

    She says to call her anytime I'm not busy so I wait a day and a half and I call at around 10. She doesn't answer. She then leaves me a message on myspace saying that she sorry she didn't answer and she didn't see the missed call till late and she didn't want to call back late. I call again the next night and no answer. I tell my co-worker about this and she says she's very busy and it's even hard for her to get a hold of her and she says to try it again. My co-worker also tells me she is shy and that the women in her family play hard to get.

    On Friday I call again and get her on the phone and we talk for a few minutes and I ask her out on a date. She says yes and I tell her we can go out next Saturday cuz I'm busy this weekend and she agrees. Anyways the date day comes along and my co-worker tells me her cousin is nervous cuz she's never met me and people don't look the same as they do in pictures. (It's basically a blind date.)

    We finally go out and have great conversation and we enjoy each other's company. We went to go get a bite at a cafe and we stayed for around 2 and a half hours talking. She even tells me I look better in person than in pictures. When I get back to work on Monday my co-worker tells me that her cousin told her she had a good time on the date. On Tuesday, I call her and ask for a second date and she says maybe??? I tell her that means a no and before I hang up she says "maybe" does not mean no and she just has to think about it a little. She says good things take time and to be patient. I'm thinking I just want a second date.

    The situation is that she is 20 years old and i'm 24.

    She is a single mother of one.(It was a high school mistake)

    She works and goes to school full-time.

    There are no other men in her life right now.(I know cuz my co-worker told me)

    One thing that does bugs me is that I always initiate contact. Be it phone or text message. I know this is a killer but her cousin did say she was shy and when we do talk or message each other we have great conversation and she doesn't ignore my texts. She always answers back.

    Oh and i forgot to mention that when we were on our date, she asked me when my last relationship was to which I answered a little over a month and a half. When I asked her, she said 3 years!!! It's weird because she is ultra beautiful but my thinking is she hasn't been in a relationship because of her baby. My co-worker also told me she's had bad luck with guys in the past which is why she introduced my to her.


    Is there any hope????????
  • dkgojackets
    Banned
    • Mar 2005
    • 13816

    #2
    Re: I need advice please...

    tl;dr

    needs pics

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    • GBrushTWood
      Banned
      • Mar 2003
      • 1624

      #3
      Re: I need advice please...

      You didn't build enough attraction with her. You weren't interesting enough, or you were too needy, maybe both. You probably demonstrated lower value somewhere during the date.

      You asked if you have any hope here. My answer is no, but stranger things have happened. It all depends on how much effort you want to put in.

      You can be persistent, try appealing to her logical side, and likely nothing will happen because you have probably already been categorized as a friend. If for some reason you are really into this lass, then you will likely travel down this path. It's a pretty lousy path to be honest.

      Or, you can cut your losses, learn from what you did wrong here, then move on to the next girl while not making the same mistakes. This requires a lot less effort on your part, and would be my recommendation.

      Remember, you must start out by building attraction, and not rapport seeking. Once attraction has been built, then you can move to rapport seeking/comfort/building trust. This is how our society works, I didn't make it up.

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      • bluengold34_OS
        Content Creator
        • Nov 2004
        • 7346

        #4
        Re: I need advice please...

        Brother, I am not into giving other people advise about their lives, but since you asked for it.

        In my experiences in the past, when you are dating a single mother with a child, they tend to be very cautious. If you were a single mother, would you let just anybody around, it does take time and it does take patience. I know you are just looking for a second date, but in her mind, she is thinking" I have limited time, I have a child, I have to be very cautious of what I do and when I do it.

        Dating a woman with a child is alot different...not bad, just different. You have to try and see things from her perspective, and if you don't want to do that ( thats cool ) than it's probably not a good match....patience sir, patience
        Last edited by bluengold34_OS; 10-18-2007, 07:55 AM.
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        • Mavs2003champs
          Rookie
          • May 2003
          • 65

          #5
          Re: I need advice please...

          great advice thanks blue

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          • stewaat

            #6
            Re: I need advice please...

            Originally posted by GBrushTWood
            You didn't build enough attraction with her. You weren't interesting enough, or you were too needy, maybe both. You probably demonstrated lower value somewhere during the date.

            You asked if you have any hope here. My answer is no, but stranger things have happened. It all depends on how much effort you want to put in.

            You can be persistent, try appealing to her logical side, and likely nothing will happen because you have probably already been categorized as a friend. If for some reason you are really into this lass, then you will likely travel down this path. It's a pretty lousy path to be honest.

            Or, you can cut your losses, learn from what you did wrong here, then move on to the next girl while not making the same mistakes. This requires a lot less effort on your part, and would be my recommendation.

            Remember, you must start out by building attraction, and not rapport seeking. Once attraction has been built, then you can move to rapport seeking/comfort/building trust. This is how our society works, I didn't make it up.
            It appears someone watched the Master Pickup Artist LOL

            Honestly that response she gave you would turn me off. If you're that good looking like she says I would weigh other options. Go out and meet some more girls, have options. Plus she has a child already man, you ready for that!

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            • bluengold34_OS
              Content Creator
              • Nov 2004
              • 7346

              #7
              Re: I need advice please...

              Originally posted by Mavs2003champs
              great advice thanks blue
              Not a problem, Hope I was able to help you in some small way.
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              • youvalss
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                • Feb 2007
                • 16599

                #8
                Re: I need advice please...

                I can't tell u waht to do, but if I were u I would stay away from her. A single mother, hasn't had anybody in 3 years, don't know what she wants...sounds like trobules for me. I wouldn't get into this relationship. But it's just me...
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                • eXperiment63
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 3077

                  #9
                  Re: I need advice please...

                  Back off.... And I mean it. You want to see if she is interested in you? Stop initiating contact, that simple. If she tries to pull you in again, pull away... Do this until she stops trying, then you turn around and do the same thing.

                  It's called the dance of intimacy. Every woman will pull it on you at one point or another. She is trying to see how far she can drag you without you leaving... You have to show her you can and will drag her as far, if not farther, than she will drag you.

                  Give an inch... she'll take a mile. When she gives an inch... you take a mile and a half.

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                  • MassNole
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 18848

                    #10
                    Re: I need advice please...

                    Well she does seem like she has her act together, working and going to school while supporting a young child. That should be commended, it really should. Now as it pertains to you, if you are looking for a relationship this may not be the ideal girl. With all that she has on her plate you will at best be her second priority, possibly her third depending on what she wants to do with school. If you can handle that, then perhaps you have hope, but if you just answered yes to that, I'd suggest looking in the mirror and asking if you are just willing to settle.

                    If this was me, I wouldn't really pursue this right now. She just has too much on her plate to ever make a relationship a priority.

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                    • MagicBucsWsoxFan
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 4294

                      #11
                      Re: I need advice please...

                      I might give some advice on the whole situation later, but for right now...from my experiences, you need to stop talking about the girl your after to your coworker even though she introduced you two. I found out the hard way that no matter how much you want to trust someone, when its family or best friends they are always going to be helping each other rather than you.

                      You have to understand that even if your co-working promises that whats said at work stays between you two, is REALLY getting fed back to her cousin (the girl your after) probably just about word for word, if not being exaggerated.

                      I learned this the hard way. I had a very similar situation a few months ago where this girl I met at a party really wanted me to date her cousin (who was also at the party). So after everything got set up and we went on a few dates, things didnt seem to be all that great. Ofcourse the cousin wanted us together so she kept trying to convince both of us to keep hanging out. I was very stupid though and kept giving her fuel by talking about the girl and telling her that I did like her cousin a lot, but it seemed like she didnt like me (blah blah). I was being reassured everything was going to stay between us, but that couldnt be further from the truth. Everything and I mean EVERYTHING I was saying was getting relayed back to the cousin and killed any chance I had.

                      Now I think sometimes the cousin had good intentions, and did want things to work out, however the more the cousin tried to push us together the more the girl would push me away. Plus what her cousin was telling her that I said was coming off as completely despret and clingy. Then it got took even further and despite knowing that her cousin (the girl I was dating) wasnt as interested, the cousin tried to cherry coat stuff and lied to me about how interested the girl was in me, but how she was "shy", "really busy" and "had a hard time showing feelings." somehow for a few weeks I bought into this bull**** and ended up ruining it all by trying to do the things her cousin was telling me she wanted. When in reality it was not, and she really was getting distant and losing interest by the hours probably. I came off as way too needy and clingy even though I really wasnt. I was just going with what her cousin was saying she was feeling and trying to make it easier on her by taking the lead in that area since I lead to believe it was what she wanted.

                      Needless to say, I dont talk to either of them anymore. Obviously the girl lost all interest to the point where she avoided me. She wanted things to be broken off completely but her being somewhat shy and not having a real reason to do so she just avoided me to the point where I just had to break things off with her because it became obvious what was going on.
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                      • Graphik
                        Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 10582

                        #12
                        Re: I need advice please...

                        ^Master advice from one of OS's finest pimps.

                        No seriously, thats some good advice Magic.

                        To give you a glimmer of hope, I say back off and wait for her to call you. Give her the gift of missing you. If she is actually interested in missing you at all. She has a lot on her plate and with school and a child so just keep doing what you do until she's the one that initiates the contact.

                        She's not interested if she didn't give you a second date to tell the truth so what you need to do is drop her name off your list and pursue other options. If you play those cards right, she'll give you a ring wondering what happened to you. If she doesn't call within a week, axe her completely.

                        As far as the cousin concerned, Magic is right, they're just playing the situation to their advantage and she's just relaying a bunch of BS to you. She'll never actually reveal if she's into you or not so dont probe for info, it'll just make you look bad or desperate in the end.

                        There's still hope though man, I wouldn't completely give up. If what she's saying about not being in a relationship for 3 years is true, that means she's had her plate full so you're definitely not on top of her list of priorities. Just play it cool, back off and continue playing the field. If she's actually interested, she'll call you.
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #13
                          Re: I need advice please...

                          Originally posted by stewaat
                          It appears someone watched the Master Pickup Artist LOL
                          That's EXACTLY what I was thinking... "demonstrated lower value"

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                          • Graphik
                            Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 10582

                            #14
                            Re: I need advice please...

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            That's EXACTLY what I was thinking... "demonstrated lower value"


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                            • Mavs2003champs
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                              • May 2003
                              • 65

                              #15
                              Re: I need advice please...

                              Really great advice thanks guys. I was actually going to do what graphik was saying about not initiating contact so I guess that's what I'll do. If anything happens, I'll be posting.

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