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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #1

    NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

    this one is pretty slick since they provide YOU with all the information, except the one piece they want.

    Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.

    One of our employees was called on Wednesday from 'VISA,' and I was called on Thursday from 'Master Card.'

    The scam works like this:

    Person calling: This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA or Master Card. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing company based in Arizona?

    You: No

    Person calling: Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?


    You: Yes

    Person calling: We will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. Do you need me to read it again?

    Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works.


    Person calling: I need to verify you are in possession of your card. He'll ask you to turn your card over and look for some numbers

    There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security Numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers,

    Person calling: That is correct; I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?

    You: No

    Person calling: thank you and don't hesitate to call back and hangs up.

    You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charged to our card.

    Long story -- short -- we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number.
    What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost too late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.

    What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a 'Jason Richardson of Master Card' with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.



    Fwded to me by the other half... make sure you keep your information private and always ask for a callback number.
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  • BigDofBA
    B**m*r S**n*r!
    • Aug 2002
    • 9066

    #2
    Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

    Thanks for the info. I used to get all kinds of junk mail and scam calls when I was in college.
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    • eXperiment63
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 3077

      #3
      Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

      Here is a tip for anyone who doesn't know this already.

      If you get a call that you fear is someone trying to steal yoru identity, or trying to threaten you. Soon as you hang up, pick your phone back up... When you hear the dial tone dial *57. It initializes call trace on the phone companies system. They trace the last incoming call and save all relevant information. For the next 10 business days they will keep it on file for your request(some only release it to the police).

      So if you think someone is trying to scam you:
      -Hang up
      -Pick up the phone and wait for the dial tone
      -Dial *57
      -Try and find out if it was a legit call or not(call the company that was supposedly calling you and try to verify the previous call)
      -If it can't be verified, call the police and alert them to an attempt at fraud and let them know you used the call trace feature on your phone after you received the call so the phone company has all relevant information stored in their system.

      (This works even if the number shows up private)

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #4
        Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

        I worked in Fraud Protection....
        and these guys get so many people by giving a "confirmation number" or "badge number" to throw you off...


        the key to not getting caught up is actually VERY VERY easy....

        do NOT give info on a call you did not initiate....NEVER.
        nobody with a credible company will ever ask you for your info to verify....theyll call with info and give you a number to call back........this in itself can be dangerous b\c scammers use this as a tactic now too.....call the company directly and you cant go wrong

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        • CS10029
          Th* *p*r*t**n *f Sp*rts
          • Feb 2004
          • 4616

          #5
          Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

          Thanks alot for that info, some people man.
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          • bkfount
            All Star
            • Oct 2004
            • 8467

            #6
            Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

            it's amazing how people are so stupid.

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            • CaptainZombie
              Brains
              • Jul 2003
              • 37851

              #7
              Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

              Originally posted by Pared
              this one is pretty slick since they provide YOU with all the information, except the one piece they want.

              Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.

              One of our employees was called on Wednesday from 'VISA,' and I was called on Thursday from 'Master Card.'

              The scam works like this:

              Person calling: This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA or Master Card. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing company based in Arizona?

              You: No

              Person calling: Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?


              You: Yes

              Person calling: We will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. Do you need me to read it again?

              Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works.


              Person calling: I need to verify you are in possession of your card. He'll ask you to turn your card over and look for some numbers

              There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security Numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers,

              Person calling: That is correct; I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?

              You: No

              Person calling: thank you and don't hesitate to call back and hangs up.

              You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charged to our card.

              Long story -- short -- we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number.
              What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost too late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.

              What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a 'Jason Richardson of Master Card' with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.



              Fwded to me by the other half... make sure you keep your information private and always ask for a callback number.
              Originally posted by eXperiment63
              Here is a tip for anyone who doesn't know this already.

              If you get a call that you fear is someone trying to steal yoru identity, or trying to threaten you. Soon as you hang up, pick your phone back up... When you hear the dial tone dial *57. It initializes call trace on the phone companies system. They trace the last incoming call and save all relevant information. For the next 10 business days they will keep it on file for your request(some only release it to the police).

              So if you think someone is trying to scam you:
              -Hang up
              -Pick up the phone and wait for the dial tone
              -Dial *57
              -Try and find out if it was a legit call or not(call the company that was supposedly calling you and try to verify the previous call)
              -If it can't be verified, call the police and alert them to an attempt at fraud and let them know you used the call trace feature on your phone after you received the call so the phone company has all relevant information stored in their system.

              (This works even if the number shows up private)
              Thanks guys
              HDMovie Room

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              • fistofrage
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13682

                #8
                Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

                To add to this, never ever respond to any email with private information. For example, if you get an e-mail from National City Bank and it provides a link to check your account balance, ITS BOGUS. Banks or credit institutions will never supply links in e-mails.

                The link is then diverted to a Bogus website that looks just like your bank's. The when you start typing in your account # & credit card number, you are screwed.
                Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                • stewaat

                  #9
                  Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

                  Thanks for the heads up!

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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #10
                    Re: NEW Credit card scam; Read and protect yourself!

                    Good scam, but CR don't ask for information unless you are acquiring information from them. Not the other way around.

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