Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

[The GIGGAS]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

QOTD: wow great question, I look at it as straight up athletic ability, not most successful person who plays sports. A guy like Rick Ankiel comes to mind. He may be a head case but being able to be a successful MLB pitcher then basically starting over again and a couple years later becoming a solid Centerfielder is an amazing athletic feat. I'll stay true to my hockey roots though and go with Evgeni Malkin. Hockey players are the best athletes in the world and right now I think Malkin is the best in the NHL. Give him a year maybe two of non stop training and practice and I bet he could play any sport.
If best means most successful then it's probably Tiger.

I don't know how successful Ankiel was as a pitcher...

[Acid]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

Rick Ankiel!?

If people watched actual football, this would be a Cristiano Ronaldo landslide right now. Dude's a machine.

[Scott]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

I don't know how successful Ankiel was as a pitcher...

Ankiel was dominant haha....13-10 3.90 ERA

[rspencer86]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

Rick Ankiel!?

If people watched actual football, this would be a Cristiano Ronaldo landslide right now. Dude's a machine.

That would require watching soccer.

[Acid]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

That would require watching soccer.

Yeah, it would suck watching the world's most popular sport.

[nyisles16]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

Yeah, it would suck watching the world's most popular sport.

world, yes.. US - it's like watching paint dry

[rspencer86]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

Yeah, it would suck watching the world's most popular sport.

Well, the world can keep it. I've just never been able to get into soccer.

I have allowed myself to watch some clips of Cristiano on YouTube. Yeah, he's pretty good.

[Acid]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

world, yes.. US - it's like watching paint dry

Simple solution, don't watch MLS.

[SPTO]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

BTW for those talking about Tiger being the most dominating ever. Yes, there's a point to that but Tiger's competition isn't nearly at the level of what Jack Nicklaus had to face throughout his career. Jack started off as Palmer's upstart rival then had guys like Lee Trevino, Gary Player, Tom Watson, etc etc. Those guys could give Nicklaus fits and when Nicklaus had a dry spell of what, 8-9 years without winning a major it wasn't necessarily because he was "slumping" but rather because the competition was so great.

Tiger has only had Vijay Singh and Mickelson for a short while. Let's also not forget to mention how everyone said Sergio Garcia was going to be Tiger's rival for a decade....Well Sergio imploded and is only a so-so golfer.

The competition level was a LOT higher in Nicklaus' day IMO.

[Scott]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

Well you can't really blame Tiger for lack of competition though.

[TJdaSportsGuy]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

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QOTD:

Tyler Hansbrough, duh!

[SPTO]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

That's true but level of competition should play some role in determining his status. I don't think he'd be nearly as god-like if he played in Nicklaus' day. That's my point.

[rspencer86]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

Well you can't really blame Tiger for lack of competition though.

Plus, it's not fair to compare the number of serious competitors between Nicklaus' 25-year career and Woods' 11-year career. During Nicklaus' first 10 years or so, who were his competitors? A declining Arnold Palmer, Gary Player, and maybe Lee Trevino? More serious competitors will develop over Woods' next 10-15 playing years, and the "competition" argument will be about equal.

[Herbsinator]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

BTW for those talking about Tiger being the most dominating ever. Yes, there's a point to that but Tiger's competition isn't nearly at the level of what Jack Nicklaus had to face throughout his career. Jack started off as Palmer's upstart rival then had guys like Lee Trevino, Gary Player, Tom Watson, etc etc. Those guys could give Nicklaus fits and when Nicklaus had a dry spell of what, 8-9 years without winning a major it wasn't necessarily because he was "slumping" but rather because the competition was so great.

Tiger has only had Vijay Singh and Mickelson for a short while. Let's also not forget to mention how everyone said Sergio Garcia was going to be Tiger's rival for a decade....Well Sergio imploded and is only a so-so golfer.

The competition level was a LOT higher in Nicklaus' day IMO.

Say what you want about lack of competition today, but the stats Tiger is putting up are just ridiculous. He wins like 25 percent of the time. That is absolutely absurd. You just don't win that much on the PGA tour. Nobody has ever done that. There are still A LOT of great golfers on tour and I'd say the tour is probably as a deep as it has ever been. Anybody on tour can go out and put up a 63 like it is nothing.

The distance between Tiger and Phil is greater than the distance between Phil and the last place person on the list (#1000). If that isn't dominance then I don't know what is.....

[funky_chicken]

Re: Thursday Morning Other Stuff (4-3-08)

QOTD - Living and in his prime Wayne Gretzky

Current - Tiger Woods