This should be the norm

[Brandwin]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/strange/news-article.aspx?storyid=105476

[RoyalBoyle78]

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agreed...

[ThreeKing]

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I love it.

[Stumbleweed]

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Sorry, but that's bull****. It's an unenviable position to defend child molestors, but this is extra-legal punishment that should not be allowed within our justice system. The lists are bad enough (and studies have shown that they do absolutely nothing to deter further crime by the suspect or provide any protection for victims), but this seriously puts his life in danger. And is sets a dangerous precedent -- keep in mind that statutory rape would fall under this same umbrella... a 19 year-old having sex with his 16 year-old girlfriend is enough to get you locked up in some states...

Putting a scarlet letter on people isn't going to help rehabilitate them, it just makes them more likely to never be able to be employed, which makes them more likely to commit other crimes... I dunno, this kind of stuff is crazy to me -- our whole justice system is set up on the premise that you do a crime, get arrested, get punished, and that's it. This extra-curicular punishment outside of the legal system should not be allowed...

Further, convicted murdereds out on parole don't have to have a sign on their car. Are we really more scared of a sex offender (who may have been an indecent exposure/statutory, non-violent case) than a murderer? That's why these things make no sense to me. Either we give scarlet letters to every convicted violent criminal or we don't give them to anyone. Anything else is setting a precedent that is inherently unfair to people accused of a certain type of crime.

For these same reasons, I don't support the lists at all. But regardless, the lawyer quoted in the article basically summed up my main contention to this kind of thing:

"We already have a sex offender registry and all these kinds of conditions do is create danger to the offender and everyone around the offender," said defense attorney Dan Monnat, who is not representing Schad.

[Scott]

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Too over the top...

[Brandon13]

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I'm not really of fan of this either.

[Stumbleweed]

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It didn't even say what the guy did and you are all jumping on him and supporting this BS.

Again, I met a guy in one of my classes who was placed on the sex offender registry because he got busted taking a pee in the bushes at 2:00 AM (yes, he was coming home from the bar). So yeah, he's on a list now and that list doesn't note the actual crimes or the circumstances. So if some crazed anti-pedo psychopath wants to look up a sex offender and shoot him in the head, dude's name and address is on the list waiting for him.

If you don't see something wrong with that, then I don't know what to tell you. Just like the old addage that it's worse to lock up one innocent man than to let a thousand guilty ones free, I think it's totally inexcusable to make laws that wrap non-violent offenders up in something that can bring violent crimes upon them. Statutory rape goes in this category as well.

Also, unlike the lack of statistics showing that Megan's Law has decreased instances of sexual abuse or done other notable societal good, there are plenty of instances of people in the sex offender registry who have been assaulted and killed due to the list.

[Darkleaf]

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Sorry, but that's bull****. It's an unenviable position to defend child molestors, but this is extra-legal punishment that should not be allowed within our justice system. The lists are bad enough (and studies have shown that they do absolutely nothing to deter further crime by the suspect or provide any protection for victims), but this seriously puts his life in danger. And is sets a dangerous precedent -- keep in mind that statutory rape would fall under this same umbrella... a 19 year-old having sex with his 16 year-old girlfriend is enough to get you locked up in some states...

Putting a scarlet letter on people isn't going to help rehabilitate them, it just makes them more likely to never be able to be employed, which makes them more likely to commit other crimes... I dunno, this kind of stuff is crazy to me -- our whole justice system is set up on the premise that you do a crime, get arrested, get punished, and that's it. This extra-curicular punishment outside of the legal system should not be allowed...

Further, convicted murdereds out on parole don't have to have a sign on their car. Are we really more scared of a sex offender (who may have been an indecent exposure/statutory, non-violent case) than a murderer? That's why these things make no sense to me. Either we give scarlet letters to every convicted violent criminal or we don't give them to anyone. Anything else is setting a precedent that is inherently unfair to people accused of a certain type of crime.

Great post I agree 100%, The car signs are just to much.Might as well tattoo it on his forehead.

Seems like people dont understand how many Sex Offenders truly exist in neighbourhoods across North America, on a story on Dateline or 60 Minutes one Condo building in South Beach California was full of various Sex Offenders.

Seems the Government gives out a bonus to landlords who rent out apartments to these lepers. So one guy has evicted legit hardworking people and rented out there apartments..I think they said a 500$ a month paid for each convicted sex offender you rent an apartment to.

So needless to say somebody has found a market in which to profit from.
Sadly there is a daycare across the street from this condo filled with these guys, sadly daycares are not protected from the perverts the same way Schools and even playgrounds are by law.(Must not be within 500ft)

Point is you would see a lot of signs going up in places you never would have thought possible.

[Brandwin]

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I thought I read he was doing things with a 9 year old girl?

I don't know if everyone should have this, IE the 19 year old with a 16 year old, but I don't give a damn if some old perv gets messed with for the rest of his life for messing with a child. (it is BS that a guy got that treatment for peeing in a bush)

I agree with people who murder too. They messed someones life up, mess theirs up if they get out.

Maybe if we had a little more eye for an eye some of this would stop, but I doubt it...

[Flyboy]

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You're gonna see one of those cars pull up to a TCAP house. Book it.

[Gibbz]

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That's completely ridiculous. I can't believe anyone would defend a motion such as this.

[stewaat]

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I'm for sure going to do that to a friend's car

[Darkleaf]

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Here's the story I was reffering to.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-offenders5mar05,1,4896070.story

At 1149 E. 1st St. in Long Beach, where at the same time as many as 19 rapists and child molesters on parole have resided in an apartment building near two licensed day-care centers, the question, and its elusive answer, have become an emotionally charged issue.

[jmood88]

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It didn't even say what the guy did and you are all jumping on him and supporting this BS.

Again, I met a guy in one of my classes who was placed on the sex offender registry because he got busted taking a pee in the bushes at 2:00 AM (yes, he was coming home from the bar). So yeah, he's on a list now and that list doesn't note the actual crimes or the circumstances. So if some crazed anti-pedo psychopath wants to look up a sex offender and shoot him in the head, dude's name and address is on the list waiting for him.

If you don't see something wrong with that, then I don't know what to tell you. Just like the old addage that it's worse to lock up one innocent man than to let a thousand guilty ones free, I think it's totally inexcusable to make laws that wrap non-violent offenders up in something that can bring violent crimes upon them. Statutory rape goes in this category as well.

Also, unlike the lack of statistics showing that Megan's Law has decreased instances of sexual abuse or done other notable societal good, there are plenty of instances of people in the sex offender registry who have been assaulted and killed due to the list.

I completely agree.

[MassNole]

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Sorry, but that's bull****. It's an unenviable position to defend child molestors, but this is extra-legal punishment that should not be allowed within our justice system. The lists are bad enough (and studies have shown that they do absolutely nothing to deter further crime by the suspect or provide any protection for victims), but this seriously puts his life in danger. And is sets a dangerous precedent -- keep in mind that statutory rape would fall under this same umbrella... a 19 year-old having sex with his 16 year-old girlfriend is enough to get you locked up in some states...

Thank god the Supreme Court disagrees with you. This isn't excessive, this is necessary to protect children. Statistics are worthless in this debate, you cannot tell me that having the knowledge about who is dangerous for your children in your neighborhood is a bad thing. And I can assure you the state of Kansas to take this step, he did a lot more than have sex with a girl barely younger than he is.

Putting a scarlet letter on people isn't going to help rehabilitate them, it just makes them more likely to never be able to be employed, which makes them more likely to commit other crimes... I dunno, this kind of stuff is crazy to me -- our whole justice system is set up on the premise that you do a crime, get arrested, get punished, and that's it. This extra-curicular punishment outside of the legal system should not be allowed...

You're right the scarlet letter isn't going to rehabilitate them, but you know what, nothing else is either. It would save a lot of time, money, and horrors if we just put a needle in their arm and their body in the ground,

Further, convicted murdereds out on parole don't have to have a sign on their car. Are we really more scared of a sex offender (who may have been an indecent exposure/statutory, non-violent case) than a murderer? That's why these things make no sense to me. Either we give scarlet letters to every convicted violent criminal or we don't give them to anyone. Anything else is setting a precedent that is inherently unfair to people accused of a certain type of crime.

Yet again, the Supreme Court correctly states that this is perfectly fine. Sex offenders, unlike most other criminals, are for more likely to commit more crimes. But you know what, this would be a helluva an idea for those committed of DUI's as well. Mark their cars clearly, not only will it make it easier for police to spot them, but it will keep us safe.

"We already have a sex offender registry and all these kinds of conditions do is create danger to the offender and everyone around the offender," said defense attorney Dan Monnat, who is not representing Schad.

All these things do is create danger, and this idiot passed the bar? I knew I should have moved to Kansas.