GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

[Bahnzo]

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Ya know what I have a problem with? Tipping pizza delivery guys. Why? I used to deliver pianos. You know, big, heavy, expensive things? I did it for two years, you know how many times I got tipped? Once. Some lady gave me $5 one time for the both of us.

So....you deliver a light, cheap item to my home and I'm supposed to give you a couple bucks for the effort. But when I delivered a heavy, delicate, expensive item to your home (that generally had to go up at least one flight of stairs) and did it without causing damage to your home or the instrument, I get bupkis?

Pizza delivery guys can kiss my @ss.

[ZB9]

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The sad part is, a friend of mine waited on a table of 5 or 6 teens early twenties, and they left her exact change on a 50 dollar tab, and wrote on the receipt "15 flare minimum".

lol that is MESSED UP man. The life of servers. Ive been there.

many people that have never been waiters dont understand the crap they have to put up with.

[ZB9]

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Waiting?

That movie came out like, 3 years ago and is hilarious as long as you're expecting a light comedy.

doh!! my bad lol...I missed the Golden Globes that year

ill have to Netflix that one. It looks funny.

[Double Eights]

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many people that have never been waiters dont understand the crap they have to put up with.

Honestly, that goes for any job in which you come in contact with customers.

I'd say the majority of the American (hell, the majority of the world) people are absolute douchebags.

[HustlinOwl]

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Honestly, that goes for any job in which you come in contact with customers.

I'd say the majority of the American (hell, the majority of the world) people are absolute douchebags.

LOL ironic isnt it

[bkrich83]

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I tip 20%. It's easy to figure math wise, and it's a crappy job.

Now if I get really crappy service, I'll tip less.

[ZB9]

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Honestly, that goes for any job in which you come in contact with customers.

I'd say the majority of the American (hell, the majority of the world) people are absolute douchebags.

true...but waiters are one of the only jobs that's salary is based almost entirely on tips.

people that havent worked retail during Christmas time dont understand what people in that job have to put with either, but most of those folks have a set salary (or they get a set commission on sales). There is a difference.

like someone else said, waiters pay taxes on expected tips, because getting tips is expected in that job. It is how they are paid.

[mjb2124]

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Fuddruckers is the bomb. It's not cheap at all though. Get a 1/2 pound (or more if you're a man) burger, basket of fries, and a milkshake, AND they have arcade games. Best chain restaurant in the land.

I was upset when they closed the one near my house. I always liked that place (although I thought it was pretty cheap...it's been a while so my memory might be fading).

With that said, they put a Red Robin in near where the Fuddruckers used to be and that place is great. Best burgers I've ever had.

[Double Eights]

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LOL ironic isnt it

How is it ironic?

Have you not read any of my posts? I have never tipped below 15%. Just because I dislike tipping, doesn't mean I don't do it.

[Trevytrev11]

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Ya know what I have a problem with? Tipping pizza delivery guys. Why? I used to deliver pianos. You know, big, heavy, expensive things? I did it for two years, you know how many times I got tipped? Once. Some lady gave me $5 one time for the both of us.

So....you deliver a light, cheap item to my home and I'm supposed to give you a couple bucks for the effort. But when I delivered a heavy, delicate, expensive item to your home (that generally had to go up at least one flight of stairs) and did it without causing damage to your home or the instrument, I get bupkis?

Pizza delivery guys can kiss my @ss.

Did you drive your own truck and pay your own gas and maintence for that vehicle? I'm guessing with Piano's you were driving a company delivery truck. I'm not saying you're job was easier, I'm sure it's not in the least, but I think the stigma of pizza guys is that they have to pay their own gas, which is why people are probably more willing to help them out.

Also, when you purchase an item that is delivered, 95% of the time you are also paying shipping and handling, so I guess many would assume that some of that is going ot the delivery guy.

Personally, we moved into a new house about a year and a half ago. Since then we have had a bedroom set, a matress, a dining room set, a family room set and a desk for the office delivered. With the exception of the mattress, everything else was assembled by the delivery guys and in each case, I tipped $10-$25 and in the case of the mattress, I tipped $5. I also always offer something to drink to the delivery guys as well.

The way I see it, I want my crap put together right and kept in the base condition possible if I throw a few bucks towards these guys, I hope they take care of me. Besides, it's a pain to have something shipped back if it's broken or if they scratch something, so I want to prevent that at all costs. I see it the same way with dinner. I want good service and am more than happy to throw down a few extra dollars for that good service.

I've had minimum service before and good service is definitely worth a few extra dollars to me. I like to have a new drink at my table before my last one finishes up.

[Double Eights]

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The thing about pizza delivery now is that we (at least around here) have to pay a $2 "delivery fee," and yet the drivers still expect us to give them a tip too.

So I pay $25 for my pizza and wings, $2 for delivery, and then another few $$ for a tip? I'm sorry, but some people just can't afford to spend $30 on a medium pizza (six slices) and a dozen wings.

[Trevytrev11]

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Ah, one more thing I forgot to highlight. Someone mentioned how tipping is an incentive for the server to provide good service.

No one sees how sad that is? I have to give someone a tip so they could do their job right? Man, I'm going to work tomorrow and not doing a thing. Then I'm telling my boss that if he wants me to do a good job he better tell his clients to start tipping me. Let's see how fast I last in the office.

When you are at work, do you work harder to get raises and promotions or work just the minimum to get by and expect them to come anyway?

If you knew there was no room to grow with your company and there were no raises to be given out when the next raise time came around, would you still bust your *** and do more than was just expected or just what was reqiured if you knew all of this ahead of time?

Most people go above and beyond their basic job description because they want something (99% of the time it's more money).
Doesn't the same hold true here?

The only difference here is that the customer is giving you the bonus instead of the company. However, if the company was paying it, we the customer would see it in price increases.

Sure there is a level of responsiblity to do your job regardless (everyone chooses their job for the most part), but without incentive to motivate, you're only going to get minimal service (maybe one refill, maybe an incorrect order, maybe cold food because the server let it sit out a while).

I think the system is one that is fair for both sides and has a nice balance to it. Because of this, we see lower prices and we get to pay for the service what we think it is worth. If you get bad service, you can pay little or nothing for it and if you get great service, you can pay extra.

If servers were paid a flat rate, you would pay the same (more than you do now) for crap service as you paid for great service. Your wrong order, empty glass and cold food might cost the same on Saturday as your perfect order, constantly refilled drink and piping hot food did on Friday...doesn't sound very fair to either side.

Also, we're talking about a job that for most is a short-term, part time job while kids are in school and has a high turnover rate. Raises won't come often enough or be big enough to matter. A 5% raise, which is pretty decent in most professional carrers is $0.29 to someone making minimum wage, which is an extra $6.00 a week for someone working 20-part time hours a week. It's not even noticable.

[Trevytrev11]

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The thing about pizza delivery now is that we (at least around here) have to pay a $2 "delivery fee," and yet the drivers still expect us to give them a tip too.

So I pay $25 for my pizza and wings, $2 for delivery, and then another few $$ for a tip? I'm sorry, but some people just can't afford to spend $30 on a medium pizza (six slices) and a dozen wings.

Where I live the take-out and delivery price is the same, so it makes sense to me to throw the guy a few bucks. Hell I'm saving more than that in gas these days by not picking it up.

Next time you order, you should ask if that extra $2 goes directly to the driver. It should. Then, I guess you could decide if that is fair enough amount to you.

I don't know about you guys, but my mindset is that I tip for what I think the service was worth. To me, great service at a restaurant is worth 20% easy. The way I see it, I'm paying not to stand in line to place my order. I'm paying not to have to go to the counter to ask for some extra dressing. I'm paying not to have to refill my own drink or go wait at the bar for 5 minutes for the bartender to get me anothe rbeer. I'm paying for the food to be brought out when it is ready and for my order to be correct. So for me going out and not having to do all of that stuff is worth something for me. I enjoy being able to go out, relax with my wife or friends and not constantly having to get out of my seat to go find something or someone.

[ex carrabba fan]

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So how often would you say you tip? 50%? 90% of the time?

I don't think anyone is saying that if the waiter is a complete douche, is horrible at their job, and ruins your dinner that they should get a good/any tip. But how often does that happen? For me almost never. So unless you get bad service all the time then I don't know why people would go in expecting not to tip. It should be on an extremely rare occasion that people don't leave a tip imo.

Well before making this thread, I had ALWAYS tipped, I always doubled the tax. But after having a lackluster eating experience two or three weeks ago, and still dishing out a tip, I felt like I needed to re-evaluate the tipping dynamic. I'm not really rolling in dough, so I think I'm justified for having a new outlook on tipping.

With that said, it would still take a lot for me not to leave any tip at all, but now I'll be a lot more liberal with leaving minimal tips if I don't think the service was up to par. I don't feel bad either, since apparently [someone brought it up earlier in the thread] CA servers get paid minimum wage unlike other states where servers get paid dirt.

[bgeno]

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I kind of ran into an issue on tipping the other night.

Two of my friends and I went to Applebees to grab some half-price appetizers (GREAT deal, by the way). In total, we spent like 13 or 14 bucks (3 appetizers for 3.99 each plus tax). It should have been around 25 bucks, though, if we hadn't gotten the half-price deal.

The waitress was OK. She wasn't incredibly friendly, but she definitely kept our waters full (a big deal to me) and made sure everything was OK.

So when it came time to tip, I put down two bucks for me and suggested my friend put down 2 for him and his girl, so it would be 4$ total. His girl got a little snappy with me and was like "she does not need 4 dollars." I just kinda shot back at her and said "Be quiet... she kept the waters full."

Personally, I think my friend's girl is just jealous that she's not making the kind of money a waitress can make in tips, but that's her fault.


Do you guys feel 4$ is too much for a 25-28$ tab from a waitress who wasn't very friendly but made sure our waters were full?