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  • Brandon13
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    • Oct 2005
    • 8915

    #1

    Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

    A Fairfield man is in jail because his daughter hasn't gotten her General Equivalency Diploma (GED).

    A judge ordered the father to stay on top of his daughter's education months ago and when that order wasn't followed, Brian Gegner was sentenced to 180-days in the Butler County jail.

    The daughter, Brittany Gegner, says her father shouldn't be punished for her problems.

    Especially, she says because she's now 18, an adult.
    "It's ridiculously wrong," said Brittany Gegner.

    "Of all the punishments they could have given him, to make him go to jail?," she asked. "I mean, probation – until I get my GED – would be reasonable, but to send him to jail? That's overboard."

    Butler County Juvenile Court Judge David Niehaus ordered Gegner to jail for contributing to the delinquency of a minor by not following a court order which required Gegner to be sure his daughter got her GED.

    This comes after ongoing problems of Brittany skipping classes at Fairfield High School and then, Butler Tech.

    While Brian Gegner had custody of her, Brittany says it was while she lived with her mother that she was truant.

    "I'm about to be 19 and my Dad's being punished for something I did when I was 16," she said.

    "It's like I should, if anybody should be punished for this," said Brittany. "I would way rather me go to jail than my Dad."

    "They probably should have punished me if they were going to punish anybody," said Brittany's mother Shana Roach. "Because she did live with me at the time, but because he had the custody, that's why he's being punished."

    "But I don't understand the punishment all together because she's going to school, she's been going for four months," said Roach. "The only thing that's holding her back is she can't pass her math test."

    Brittany has a daughter who's about 18-months-old.

    She says she's determined to pass the GED for her daughter – and her father.

    The judge says if she passes the test, her father could get out of jail before his six-months sentence is up.

    Brittany's step-mother worries the time in jail will ruin their family.

    She says he could lose the job he's worked for 15-years.

    "I never dreamed they would put him in jail for this – for six months – it's crazy," said Stephanie Gegner, Brittany's step-mother.

    "He has no control over what his adult daughter does," she said. "He just doesn't."

    Court administrators say that even though Brittany is an adult now, the case remains active in their court because she was a juvenile when the problems started.

    They say this type of punishment is rare and reserved for extreme cases when court orders aren't met.
    http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...1-9859f1f6137e

    That's really going too far, imo.
  • Trevytrev11
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    • Nov 2006
    • 3259

    #2
    Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

    Way too far.

    I'm sure the whole story isn't being told, but there isn't much more a parent can do than force their kid to go to school, especially if they aren't educated themselves (not sure if this is the case). Personally, if my daughter was slacking in school, I would help teach her and provide a tutor if necessary, but if the parent, themself is uneducated and/or can't afford that, what else can they do?

    Unless the child is being disruptive, it seems that some of this burden should also fall on the teachers/school. If a student is going to school and paying attention in school and just not getting it, they may have other problems.

    The only justification I could find is if the daughter was skipping school, but that doesn't seem to the be case here (at least now, since the mother says she has been going to school for the past 6 months). The girl is 18 years old and I would assume is no longer the parents legal responsibility.
    Last edited by Trevytrev11; 05-13-2008, 01:42 PM.

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    • Rainey
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      • Jul 2002
      • 4507

      #3
      Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

      We don't know the situation, but this really really really appears to be a POS judge.
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      • p_rushing
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        • Feb 2004
        • 14514

        #4
        Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

        Yeah its going to far, but maybe she will hurry up and get her GED now.

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        • Dice
          Sitting by the door
          • Jul 2002
          • 6627

          #5
          Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

          I like this idea BUT I felt it was done wrong.

          Don't wait until the child is 18 to punish the parents. If she's trying to get her GED at 18 then somewhere along the line her parents allowed her to drop out of school. I feel that parents should be held accountable for that. No way in the world should a child that you are raising is allowed to have a choice to attend school or not. My dad always told me, "If you want to live under my roof, you better keep yourself in school." It was that simple.

          I don't understand parents of today letting their child just drop out of school.
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          • cooldude
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            • Jul 2002
            • 4091

            #6
            Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

            That was taken way, way too far.

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            • SidVish
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              • Apr 2003
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              Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

              This is overboard but how hard is it to get your GED.
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              • RubenDouglas
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                • May 2003
                • 11202

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                Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

                getting a GED is required for your children? what about all the dropouts or kids who just quit school and work??

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                • Koolie G
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                  • Mar 2005
                  • 1812

                  #9
                  Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

                  I guarantee there is more to this story. Judges don't just put Dad's in jail for 6 months b/c their child doesn't get a GED. I'm sure there were hearings and the Dad couldn't show how he'd tried to help or shown that she had made any progress or the girl was still missing school. This is a very extreme case, and maybe the Judge is a jerk, but there is something with this story that we don't know.


                  BTW, why is she getting a GED if she hasn't missed classes in 4 months. Couldn't she get a regular diploma if she was still going to school. If not, then there is definitley something more going on than we know.
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                  • Cebby
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 22327

                    #10
                    Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

                    Originally posted by Dice
                    I feel that parents should be held accountable for that.
                    Some times kids just come out wrong. Strangely, two of my best friends are both in a set of twins (different sets).

                    One of them is a part of a lower income family, and both kids are just not too bright. However, one graduated, is now the manager of a movie theater, went to community college until he could get his grades up, and will be going to Towson next year. The other brother failed out of school, has been fired from every job he's had, been arrested numerous times, and spent the last two years in a combination of jail and rehab. With the "bad" kid, his parents took away his car, locked him in the house, kicked him out of the house a few times, and nothing really sticked.

                    The other set isn't quite as different, but one twin is halfway through undergrad at Hopkins, and the other is a cokehead. Good parenting only gets you so far; sometimes kids just have some issues. Yes, sometimes it is parenting, but parents get blamed for a lot more than they deserve a lot of times.

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                    • p_rushing
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                      • Feb 2004
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                      Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

                      Originally posted by Koolie G
                      BTW, why is she getting a GED if she hasn't missed classes in 4 months. Couldn't she get a regular diploma if she was still going to school. If not, then there is definitley something more going on than we know.
                      I think she is too old now or because she dropped out, she has too many credits to complete, so the GED is the only way.

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                      • MassNole
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                        • Mar 2006
                        • 18848

                        #12
                        Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

                        I am really trying to figure out where the Judge even began to think he had the authority to do this. I didn't read the article, did the Father do something criminal and for whatever reason I can't begin to fathom his probation/parole was conditioned on his daughter getting her GED?

                        I mean if this is Juvenile Court, jurisdiction generally ends at 18. I am just befuddled here, hopefully the ACLU takes up his cause ASAP and gets him out of jail. As for the Judge, he needs to removed from the bench and should probably lose his bar license for this stunt.

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                        • Cebby
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                          • Apr 2005
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                          #13
                          Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

                          Originally posted by MassNole
                          I am really trying to figure out where the Judge even began to think he had the authority to do this. I didn't read the article, did the Father do something criminal and for whatever reason I can't begin to fathom his probation/parole was conditioned on his daughter getting her GED?

                          I mean if this is Juvenile Court, jurisdiction generally ends at 18. I am just befuddled here, hopefully the ACLU takes up his cause ASAP and gets him out of jail. As for the Judge, he needs to removed from the bench and should probably lose his bar license for this stunt.
                          Is the judge going to get disbarred?

                          Could the father sue and press charges on the judge for false imprisonment?

                          Would this be the first time "false imprisonment" actually involves a prison?

                          So many questions...

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                          • MassNole
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 18848

                            #14
                            Re: Man Jailed After Daughter Fails To Get GED

                            I am at a loss for how a Judge could impose a prison sentence sua sponte, unless he called it Contempt of Court.

                            What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 70 or below?



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