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  • Laettner32
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    • Jul 2002
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    #16
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    I would love to go back to the 80's. That would be totally awesome!

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    • duke776
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      • Nov 2006
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      #17
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      Originally posted by Cebby
      You may not want to, but if someone traveled to any time in your lifetime, wouldn't you have to live that over again?
      Yes, I would have to, and I gladly would go back in time if it brought me to two specific occasions. But, I was mainly talking about traveling into the future, something about it just doesn't seem right about it. How would our thoughts be made, would peoples lives just go into fast foward mode and still be making their own decisions? If we can't travel back in time, are those people who traveled forward in time stuck in another time? Does traveling forward in time take place for everyone, or will there be split dimensions? Okay, I'm going to stop, I'm thinking way too much and it's unnecessary.


      Anyway, I've always wondered the same question that was originally being asked by the OP. I've never been able to decide one way or the other if I think it would effect the dimension split or not.

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      • marshallfever
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        • Aug 2003
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        #18
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        Originally posted by duke776
        Yes, I would have to, and I gladly would go back in time if it brought me to two specific occasions. But, I was mainly talking about traveling into the future, something about it just doesn't seem right about it. How would our thoughts be made, would peoples lives just go into fast foward mode and still be making their own decisions? If we can't travel back in time, are those people who traveled forward in time stuck in another time? Does traveling forward in time take place for everyone, or will there be split dimensions? Okay, I'm going to stop, I'm thinking way too much and it's unnecessary.


        Anyway, I've always wondered the same question that was originally being asked by the OP. I've never been able to decide one way or the other if I think it would effect the dimension split or not.
        Wow, i thought i was thinking a bit deeply about this, but it seems as if you've taken it further.

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        • SPTO
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          • Feb 2003
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          #19
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          Time travel is theoretically possible (the explanation is way too wonky for me to get into) but only to the past. There is no way one can travel into the future. That leads to an interesting scenario though. If you can't travel to the future then how the heck do you get back to the current time period?

          Crazy eh?

          As to the question of changing the past I subscribe to the theory that if you try to change the past it'll lead to a split timeline. Basically it's an offshoot of the multiverse/Many Worlds theory.
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          • Bornindamecca
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            #20
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            Time travel is about relativity and perception, not moving back and forth on a solid line. The back and forth kind of time travel is impossible, and not really worth pondering.

            The perception kind of time travel, as well as forward relativity is quite real. If we build a machine that moves fast enough, people could travel through space and return to Earth in a time that was a few years for them, but several decades for us. This is not really a far fetched idea.

            Relativity is hard to wrap one's brain around, but it isn't far fetched.

            When we see a star die, chances are we are seeing an event that happened thousands of years ago, and thus looking thousands of years into the past when that happens.
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            • SPTO
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              • Feb 2003
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              #21
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              Originally posted by Bornindamecca

              The perception kind of time travel, as well as forward relativity is quite real. If we build a machine that moves fast enough, people could travel through space and return to Earth in a time that was a few years for them, but several decades for us. This is not really a far fetched idea.
              This is true but I don't really call that time travel. That's more like the hazards of slower then light speed travel at long distances.
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              • Bornindamecca
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                #22
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                Originally posted by SPTO
                This is true but I don't really call that time travel. That's more like the hazards of slower then light speed travel at long distances.
                You may not want to call it that, but for both parties involved, it would be the same exact effect as traveling forward in time. For people on Earth to watch someone leave for say, 100 years and return, they'd look at them as coming back from the past.

                The people coming back will experience the same thing as having traveled into the future. They leave for a short(er) amount of time, and return to an Earth that is completely changed, as if they zipped into the future.

                It's not different, it's just without the hocus pocus of bad special effects and fiction writing.
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                • marshallfever
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                  • Aug 2003
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                  #23
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                  Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                  Time travel is about relativity and perception, not moving back and forth on a solid line. The back and forth kind of time travel is impossible, and not really worth pondering.

                  The perception kind of time travel, as well as forward relativity is quite real. If we build a machine that moves fast enough, people could travel through space and return to Earth in a time that was a few years for them, but several decades for us. This is not really a far fetched idea.

                  Relativity is hard to wrap one's brain around, but it isn't far fetched.

                  When we see a star die, chances are we are seeing an event that happened thousands of years ago, and thus looking thousands of years into the past when that happens.
                  Not sure if i saw this in a movie or read it somewhere else, but it makes more sense than the original idea of time travel. Going so fast that you transcend "regular time" but not necessarily traveling through it.

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                  • jmood88
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #24
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                    Originally posted by duke776
                    Yes, I would have to, and I gladly would go back in time if it brought me to two specific occasions. But, I was mainly talking about traveling into the future, something about it just doesn't seem right about it. How would our thoughts be made, would peoples lives just go into fast foward mode and still be making their own decisions? If we can't travel back in time, are those people who traveled forward in time stuck in another time? Does traveling forward in time take place for everyone, or will there be split dimensions? Okay, I'm going to stop, I'm thinking way too much and it's unnecessary.

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                    • CMH
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                      • Oct 2002
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                      #25
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                      Originally posted by jmood88
                      I've always thought that whatever a hypothetical future time traveller did in the past was what caused the future to be whatever it was.
                      This is pretty much how I feel when this problem comes up in stories.

                      The future that exists exists because the time traveler traveled from the future to the past and back to the future.

                      Confusing? Let's take the manga story the OP talked about with the barren wasteland. The characters could be returning to a barren wasteland even after changing events because it's not those events that cause the barren wasteland. They haven't gotten to the action that created the result.

                      And then when that's all said and done, they really didn't change a thing because the future already included someone traveling to it and changing the past so that the future would be different.
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                      • slickdtc
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                        • Aug 2004
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                        #26
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                        If you travel to the past, does that change the future? Because if you already traveled to the past to change the future, you don't need to travel to the past in that future. If that were the case, then you're living in an alternate universe. Kind of like the movie Deja Vu. The guy kills himself because he's already alive (in a different universe type thing).

                        It's so confusing. I can't decide. Very complex stuff.
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                        • CMH
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                          #27
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                          But, you still needed to travel to the past to change that future so, you would still need to travel back in time. Without that action, there's no changing the future.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                          • mgoblue
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                            • daflyboys
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                              #29
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                              Obviously, you guys have never read "The Red Badge of Courage".

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                              • Jukeman
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                                • Aug 2005
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                                #30
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                                Originally posted by mgoblue
                                is that for real?.... If he didn't look so crazy I'll would go!

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