P90X

[Ruffy]

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I'm pretty confident I'll be starting this in a week and a half. Don't know how I'll do with the diet, though. Planning on sticking to the workouts for sure.

Good luck and remember the diet is just as important as the workouts!

I dropped down to 220 from 250 working out at a local place here that specializes in high end athletes. They had me on a caveman diet to start....similar to the p90X diet except I had to do 14 days of no carbs and high protein 7 meals a day. Eggs, Steak, Lean beef, protein shakes, grilled chicken, back bacon. Anything green you could eat, salads, veggies (cucumber, asparagas, broccoli). No dips and any dressing must be oil based.

Calories did not matter and no cardio was allowed (for the 1st 14 days!). Apparently this changed my enzyimes according to them. Then after that you followed the diet for 4 days and then on the 5th day you could eat whatever you wanted. Continuing that rotation in essence forever.

Ofcoarse my job changed and eating 7 times a day became a bit impossible and I'm back up to 245. Basically my diet went to crap combined with less working out. I plan to do it again myself.

After the 14 days you add in cardio and workout like 3 to 4 times a week.

The place was fun though flipping giant tires, pulling sleds, inverted push-ups...it was hard workout but really pushed you.

Hope this goes well for you, but yeah do not under estimate the diet.

Once you get used to it you tend to feel like crap when you don't eat healthy. My first few cheat days I'd have a food hangover the next day!

[The 24th Letter]

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Im late on this, and most has been said... but I love it Pared...been doing consistently for a couple of months now..

[Pared]

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Is weight loss an issue for you? I actually DON'T want to lose weight... still my biggest concern.

[Jistic]

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Good luck and remember the diet is just as important as the workouts!

I dropped down to 220 from 250 working out at a local place here that specializes in high end athletes. They had me on a caveman diet to start....similar to the p90X diet except I had to do 14 days of no carbs and high protein 7 meals a day. Eggs, Steak, Lean beef, protein shakes, grilled chicken, back bacon. Anything green you could eat, salads, veggies (cucumber, asparagas, broccoli). No dips and any dressing must be oil based.

Calories did not matter and no cardio was allowed (for the 1st 14 days!). Apparently this changed my enzyimes according to them. Then after that you followed the diet for 4 days and then on the 5th day you could eat whatever you wanted. Continuing that rotation in essence forever.

Could you elaborate a little more? What about dairy and fruit?

[Hassan Darkside]

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Is weight loss an issue for you? I actually DON'T want to lose weight... still my biggest concern.

I think that's why they have the recommended diet. You don't have to follow it, but I assume if you don't want to lose weight you should eat in the level II or III area of the diet. As it is right now, I'm supposed to be eating around 2800 calories a day. I don't think I'm getting close to the mark. Especially with looking at what/how much I've been eating the last few days.

The diet definitely isn't gonna starve you. It pretty much has you eating 3 legitimate meals a day plus snacks in between. I remember seeing a youtube transformation and after the first 90 days a guy upped his intake to 3000 calories a day and put on 15 lbs of muscle. Also, when you do the workouts, use heavier weights and keep your reps down.

[Ruffy]

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Could you elaborate a little more? What about dairy and fruit?

I'd have to dig up my literature on this....I will and post some meal ideas....cheese and plain yogurt is ok.

No fruit for the 1st 14 days!

Something about changing you enzymes and slowly introducing the sugars back in.

Pared,

Do a google search for Caveman diets. It's designed for building muscle and power. You might lose inches but gain muscle mass.

[The 24th Letter]

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Is weight loss an issue for you? I actually DON'T want to lose weight... still my biggest concern.

My diet is so protein heavy man, so i dont know if I can give a accurate answer, I havent lost anything...the biggest result im seeing is the increase in definition...

[Tha_Kid]

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Reading this thread (videos didn't hurt) has gotten me interested in tackling this. I recently started lifting but Im not on any kind of diet and I don't have a gym membership.

@ Pared: This is from the P90x site:

Because of the flexible nutrition plan, people trying to avoid weight loss can modify and customize their eating to create a plan that works the way they need it to. By shortening one of the three phases or skipping the Phase 1 Fat Shredder altogether, individuals in this same situation have been able to get the results they want.

[thmst30]

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Is weight loss an issue for you? I actually DON'T want to lose weight... still my biggest concern.

I lost a lot of weight last year due to a health problem. I started doing P90X at the start of the summer and quickly gained 15 pounds. If you eat healthy, and eat for bulk then you won't lose wait. It's possible to take on loads of healthy calories each day and with work that will get you to your goal. Protein will obviously be your #1 friend if you don't want to lose weight. However if your body fat % is high then you will lose fat weight faster than you gain muscle weight. If you are already muscular then just do the program as is and you will gain definition and get more "ripped." If you aren't very muscular than I suggest you go through the program, but eat for bulk and don't diet. Then if you want to get more defined you will have to go through the program again and go by their diet recommendations. I hope that makes sense? You either go for bulk or definition, not both at the same time. So again if you're already happy with what you generally have then go for the definition, if not then you need to gain before the definition. Sorry for being so long winded and repetitive there.

[Pared]

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I appreciate all the replies fellas. It's really helping me ease into doing this. I'm hoping to start this Monday. I may need to do a little more research about the diet I will be taking and prepare myself, causing me to push it back a week... but my goal is this Monday, next Monday the latest.

Again, thanks.

[Jistic]

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I'd have to dig up my literature on this....I will and post some meal ideas....cheese and plain yogurt is ok.

No fruit for the 1st 14 days!

Something about changing you enzymes and slowly introducing the sugars back in.

Pared,

Do a google search for Caveman diets. It's designed for building muscle and power. You might lose inches but gain muscle mass.

Thanks. My only other questions are, with the 7 meals a day, could some just be snacks like hard boiled eggs or tuna? Could you add something like soy sauce to the tuna? I am assuming no mayo.

After the 14 days, you could do cardio again?

Coffee?

Just plain water? Could you add a slice of lemon or something?

Could you eat fruit after the 14 days?

Thanks.

[Pared]

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Hey Ruffy,

I've been reading about the caveman diet and it seems like you have to have an expected weight loss when doing it. Does that sound right?

[Hassan Darkside]

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Question on the workouts...For you guys that have been through it, when you first started, did you take breaks or cut the reps short? Or did you pause, take breaks, and still try to get as many reps as they did?

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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Question on the workouts...For you guys that have been through it, when you first started, did you take breaks or cut the reps short? Or did you pause, take breaks, and still try to get as many reps as they did?

I think when you 1st start its almost impossible to do the amount of reps they do especially on the pull ups. Your just starting and these guys are pros and even Tony tells you dont expect to do the same as they are your first few times doing it.

I do take breaks when I first started maybe 3 or 4 per workout. 5 weeks in now its 1 or 2. And they do give you 30 sec to 1 min breaks so i take 1 or 2 plus the breaks that we get and Tony gets.

I do cut reps short but I push myself to the max and thats the key. On weight's I always do 8-10 reps. Sometimes they want you to do 16 reps for certain exercises and I have cut them short by a few.

[Tha_Kid]

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Could any one point me in the direction of a good tool to measure bodyfat %, a body fat caliper maybe?