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  • Hassan Darkside
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    • Sep 2003
    • 7561

    #1

    Is the traditional family dead?

    It's an increasing trend, and has been, that the American family is going south. I was reading in a marketing book when this stuff kinda popped out at me. In 1960, 75 percent of all households consisted of married couples. 50 years later, just half. Only half of those couples actually have married children, and only 10 percent have working fathers and stay-at-home moms.

    Couples are 40+% to become divorced, which is ridiculously high.

    I'm looking at my friends right now getting married at 19 or early 20s and wondering if they know the commitment that they have to (or don't have to...) make. Some are having kids already too. I'm just wondering, do you guys think that these numbers will ever go back up? Or is the traditional family gone forever?
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  • Trevytrev11
    MVP
    • Nov 2006
    • 3259

    #2
    Re: Is the traditional family dead?

    Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
    It's an increasing trend, and has been, that the American family is going south. I was reading in a marketing book when this stuff kinda popped out at me. In 1960, 75 percent of all households consisted of married couples. 50 years later, just half. Only half of those couples actually have married children, and only 10 percent have working fathers and stay-at-home moms.

    Couples are 40+% to become divorced, which is ridiculously high.

    I'm looking at my friends right now getting married at 19 or early 20s and wondering if they know the commitment that they have to (or don't have to...) make. Some are having kids already too. I'm just wondering, do you guys think that these numbers will ever go back up? Or is the traditional family gone forever?

    Well I think 19 and 20 year olds of the past were more mature than those of today and much more prepared to be starting a family than today. Obvioously this isn't the case across the board, but I just think back then, kids were exposed to much more tough love back then and were forced to grow up faster.

    How many of our parents were still living with their parents into their mid to late 20's or beyond? My dad basically worked from the time he was 12 (delivering newspapers, working as a box boy in a grocery store, etc). He was drafted into the army at 18 and was basically on his own after that.

    I think many kids are coddled these days by their parents and don't learn that responsiblity that the past generations have. They take these traits into marriage and they are destined to fail. They don't know how to handle those new levels of responsiblity and maturity.

    Also, just from a life expenctancy point of view, it made sense 50-100 years ago to get married at a younger age and start a family. It doesn't seem to be as necessary today, but the trend hasn't changed as much.

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    • Heelfan71
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      • Jul 2002
      • 19940

      #3
      Re: Is the traditional family dead?

      definitely going south. I hate it for kids who don't have a Mom and Dad, or atleast both in their life.
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      • bkfount
        All Star
        • Oct 2004
        • 8467

        #4
        Re: Is the traditional family dead?

        Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
        only 10 percent have working fathers and stay-at-home moms.
        so...working moms ruined America?

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        • USF11
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          • Jun 2003
          • 4245

          #5
          Re: Is the traditional family dead?

          Our economy which is going to destroy the next 10-15 years of career and money growth for younger individuals. This is going to cause families to come back together, a majority of people are not going to be able to afford any kind of quality of life on their own.
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          • gopadres
            OS Member #242
            • Jul 2002
            • 931

            #6
            Re: Is the traditional family dead?

            Well said, Trevy. I think it's split right now, but definitely on the decline. Time will tell if children of single parents will change this trend in their own lives.
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            • DC
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2002
              • 17996

              #7
              Re: Is the traditional family dead?

              Lack of fathers have further killed the black community. And we see how many fruity boys are being produced in this world as a result ( not the only reason though )
              Concrete evidence/videos please

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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #8
                Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                Originally posted by bkfount
                so...working moms ruined America?
                Someone needs to stay home and watch the kids, but in this economy you can't really afford for the mom to say home. If you do you have to really budget well and cut some things out of the budget. I really believe it is important for the mom to be home, but in reality it is really hard.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #9
                  Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                  Originally posted by DC
                  Lack of fathers have further killed the black community. And we see how many fruity boys are being produced in this world as a result ( not the only reason though )
                  I notice that most of my students father are either dead or in jail. And maybe that has some factor why these kids our in jail.

                  The sad thing is I teach murderers, rapists and others criminals and I really begin to like this kids a lot. It has really made me decide that environment plays a big part in a kids life. When these same kids are in a control environment it is so different. They are actually good kids. Once again this is just opinion.
                  Last edited by Scottdau; 10-18-2009, 12:11 PM.

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                  • J0nnD0ugh
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                    • Feb 2003
                    • 16602

                    #10
                    Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                    "Going" south? The traditional family set base camp in Antartica back in the 80's.
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                    • Pokes
                      Bearer of the curse
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4538

                      #11
                      Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                      A general lack of education and media stereotypes haven't helped either.
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                      • bsb13
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 3439

                        #12
                        Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                        Originally posted by Scottdau
                        Someone needs to stay home and watch the kids, but in this economy you can't really afford for the mom to say home. If you do you have to really budget well and cut some things out of the budget. I really believe it is important for the mom to be home, but in reality it is really hard.
                        Basically how I feel about it.

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                        • MC Fatigue
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 4150

                          #13
                          Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                          Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
                          It's an increasing trend, and has been, that the American family is going south. I was reading in a marketing book when this stuff kinda popped out at me. In 1960, 75 percent of all households consisted of married couples. 50 years later, just half. Only half of those couples actually have married children, and only 10 percent have working fathers and stay-at-home moms.

                          Couples are 40+% to become divorced, which is ridiculously high.

                          I'm looking at my friends right now getting married at 19 or early 20s and wondering if they know the commitment that they have to (or don't have to...) make. Some are having kids already too. I'm just wondering, do you guys think that these numbers will ever go back up? Or is the traditional family gone forever?
                          I don't think the traditional family is anything to be proud of in the first place. I also think the idea that there's a traditional family is kind of stupid - there have always been different people living their lives how THEY see fit - and that's the only way that matters. Who care's what's traditional?

                          Racist families with women forced to stay at home and take care of the kids and be home makers... Guys that come home from work and expect the women to do everything for them - after having already been working themselves all day in taking care of their kids, cooking, cleaning, etc... It was a pathetic existence. We're much better off now.

                          I'm also not sure I get this part:

                          I'm looking at my friends right now getting married at 19 or early 20s and wondering if they know the commitment that they have to (or don't have to...) make. Some are having kids already too. I'm just wondering, do you guys think that these numbers will ever go back up? Or is the traditional family gone forever?
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                          Couples in the 60's got married at 19 and 20 all the time and had children right away - and kept having them over and over. People are probably getting married a later now on average - so I'm not really sure what this has to do with backing up your point on traditional families.
                          Last edited by MC Fatigue; 10-18-2009, 08:31 PM.

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                          • Cebby
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 22327

                            #14
                            Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                            People way over exaggerate how great everything was back in the day.

                            In the late 19th century there was a movement in Russia by the noble children of going out into the peasant communes and trying to expand the communal peasant ideas of sharing and helping each other out and such to the rest of Russia. However, this fell apart when it became evident that the nobles had an idealized image of the peasant communes which actually sucked more than New Jersey.

                            This is what I imagine the 1950s and before to be like. Sure, parents stayed together, but how much of that was due to cultural force than the mother and father actually loving each other for 50 years?

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #15
                              Re: Is the traditional family dead?

                              Originally posted by Cebby
                              People way over exaggerate how great everything was back in the day.

                              In the late 19th century there was a movement in Russia by the noble children of going out into the peasant communes and trying to expand the communal peasant ideas of sharing and helping each other out and such to the rest of Russia. However, this fell apart when it became evident that the nobles had an idealized image of the peasant communes which actually sucked more than New Jersey.

                              This is what I imagine the 1950s and before to be like. Sure, parents stayed together, but how much of that was due to cultural force than the mother and father actually loving each other for 50 years?
                              Yeah, but I think religion play a big factor in it too. Especially in the Bible Belt places. Divorces is look down on and most women just stay in the marriage because they had no where else to go. They didn't have jobs and the husband was the soul provider.

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