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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #1

    This burns me up to no end...

    Some people have no class

    WOODSTOCK -- Remnants of a swastika spray-painted on the city's cenotaph marred yesterday's Remembrance Day observance, outraged veterans and drew a tough warning by the police chief.

    Calling the defacing of the war memorial "a disgusting distraction," Police Chief Rod Freeman said those responsible will not only have to go before the courts, but also face a panel of veterans.

    "We'll bring this vandal before a small group of vets and they can describe their intent to the vets," he said.

    The cenotaph was vandalized the night before the ceremony with the symbol used by Nazis.

    Mayor Michael Harding said he was "embarrassed, ashamed and angry" the symbol had marred the Remembrance Day service.

    "This is one of the most hated symbols, I think in the world," he said.

    The vandalism was pointedly noted by those conducting services at the cenotaph in Victoria Park.

    Rev. Peter Grogan urged officials to do whatever it takes "to clean up this mess" on "the sacred stone."

    He also had a message for the culprit: "As a Christian minister, I would forgive you . . .," he said. "As an Irishman, I would say you are the scum of the Earth."

    Howard Champeau, Branch 55 Woodstock Legion president, choked back tears when asked about the vandalism.

    "It's such a despicable thing -- I don't understand why anybody would do a thing like that," he said. "It really bothered an old veteran, I can tell you that. That's something that should never, never happen."

    Champeau noted similar vandalism had occurred on the air cadet building located on the grounds of the legion earlier this year.

    Freeman urged anyone with information about the attack on the cenotaph.

    "I am certain that someone knows who is responsible for this despicable act of vandalism," Freeman said.

    Woodstock has been plagued in recent months by vandalism involving swastikas and the word Nazi spray-painted on several public buildings, including the art gallery.

    But Freeman said he believes the cenotaph graffiti isn't related to previous incidents.

    "It's another mindless individual," he said.

    Freeman said police were alerted to the vandalism early yesterday. City workers made it a priority to clean up, "out of respect for veterans."
    I can't believe there are idiots who'd do something like that. I hope they're caught and dealt with.
    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker
  • MassNole
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 18848

    #2
    Re: This burns me up to no end...

    Some teenagers (I am presuming) made a stupid decision, truthfully it seems many are overreacting to this and in essence giving the vandals what they wanted.

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    • NoDakHusker
      Ice Cold
      • Mar 2009
      • 4348

      #3
      Re: This burns me up to no end...

      Wow that is just wrong. Who in their right mind thinks that's a good idea?
      Huskers | Chelsea FC | Minnesota United | Omaha

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      • Sting
        Banned
        • Nov 2004
        • 3825

        #4
        Re: This burns me up to no end...

        Originally posted by MassNole
        Some teenagers (I am presuming) made a stupid decision, truthfully it seems many are overreacting to this and in essence giving the vandals what they wanted.
        Overreacting??? Is that supposed to be a joke?

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        • sb24
          MVP
          • Dec 2008
          • 3165

          #5
          Re: This burns me up to no end...

          Originally posted by stingmgt
          Overreacting??? Is that supposed to be a joke?
          Like he said we gave them the reaction they wanted. If we catch them, i want them punished to the highest extent of the law. if we dont catch them they are getting a good laugh at everyone pissed off, giving them what they wanted.

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          • MassNole
            Banned
            • Mar 2006
            • 18848

            #6
            Re: This burns me up to no end...

            Originally posted by stingmgt
            Overreacting??? Is that supposed to be a joke?
            No it wasn't a joke, publishing these types of stories gives the vandals the attention they were so desperately seeking.

            Also when I see a quote like this:

            Calling the defacing of the war memorial "a disgusting distraction," Police Chief Rod Freeman said those responsible will not only have to go before the courts, but also face a panel of veterans.

            "We'll bring this vandal before a small group of vets and they can describe their intent to the vets," he said.
            I couldn't tell from the article if this happened in Canada or the United States, but either way what in the world makes the police chief think he has that sort of power? Also a Christian minister calling them the scum of the earth is a bit much.

            Originally posted by sb24
            Like he said we gave them the reaction they wanted. If we catch them, i want them punished to the highest extent of the law. if we dont catch them they are getting a good laugh at everyone pissed off, giving them what they wanted.
            Thank you for getting it.

            I am not saying this act is not disturbing, but in the end I would really be willing to bet if they find the culprits it will be a teenager or a group of teenagers with a twisted sense of humor. Now if it turns out a group of white supremacists is behind this that would make it different. Still though comments like those quoted in the article are huge overreactions made by people who should have the sense to temper their words.

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            • Speedy
              #Ace
              • Apr 2008
              • 16143

              #7
              Re: This burns me up to no end...

              Rev. Peter Grogan...had a message for the culprit: "As a Christian minister, I would forgive you . . .," he said. "As an Irishman, I would say you are the scum of the Earth."
              This got me tickled a little.

              Whatever a man sows, that shall he also reap so whether it's a jail sentence or a defacement of their own personal property the guy won't get away w/it.
              Originally posted by Gibson88
              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #8
                Re: This burns me up to no end...

                It happened in Canada and I know it's giving these punks what they want to react this way but man, like I said it burns me up to hear stuff like this. I can't believe there are kids out there who have such a blatant disregard for the past and the power of what that symbol (the swastika) had in the '30s and '40s.
                Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                • raidersbball20
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 1375

                  #9
                  Re: This burns me up to no end...

                  kids like this make me sick

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                  • muggins
                    It is now the SW Era
                    • May 2003
                    • 5379

                    #10
                    Re: This burns me up to no end...

                    Does Canada really have any vets?

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                    • luv_mist
                      Older
                      • May 2004
                      • 9596

                      #11
                      Re: This burns me up to no end...

                      He also had a message for the culprit: "As a Christian minister, I would forgive you . . .," he said. "As an Irishman, I would say you are the scum of the Earth."
                      As a Christian man, I'm surprised and somewhat appalled that he said something like that.......

                      On another note, I can definitely understand the hatred towards the act. I also agree with MassNole. Nowadays, children aren't held accountable for their actions like so many others were in the past. I'm not surprised that something like this has occurred when you see the state of this nation and their views on feelings. At any rate, I did enjoy Veterans Day. Maybe some good might come out of this.

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                      • 55
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 20857

                        #12
                        Re: This burns me up to no end...

                        Originally posted by MassNole
                        Some teenagers (I am presuming) made a stupid decision, truthfully it seems many are overreacting to this and in essence giving the vandals what they wanted.
                        I completely agree with you, man. I would be willing to wager that it was just a couple of stoned teenagers trying to play a prank in bad taste. Nothing more, nothing less.

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                        • Speedy
                          #Ace
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 16143

                          #13
                          Re: This burns me up to no end...

                          Originally posted by luv_mist
                          As a Christian man, I'm surprised and somewhat appalled that he said something like that.......
                          As much as my heart as a Christian wants to forgive the man, at the same time my flesh wants to beat him up - I don't see anything wrong that. If this reverend actually acts upon his fleshly feelings than yeh, there's a problem but otherwise there's no sin to anger - only when anger promotes sin.

                          More so, which I think the point your making is, the fact this reverend stated this to the media; that's not the best PR move to represent yourself as a classy, respectful and loving preacher/church.
                          Originally posted by Gibson88
                          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                          • SuperBowlNachos
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 10218

                            #14
                            Re: This burns me up to no end...

                            Probably just kids. At a football game I went to during the national anthem kids were putting their arms up like nazis during the national anthem. There is a whole "I'm a rebel **** America" phase some kids go through.

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                            • ProjectRipCity
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2395

                              #15
                              Re: This burns me up to no end...

                              Originally posted by MassNole
                              No it wasn't a joke, publishing these types of stories gives the vandals the attention they were so desperately seeking.
                              Now that's common sense.

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