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  • Bruins
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    • Mar 2004
    • 6433

    #16
    Re: Worst sports team cities.

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    • Cebby
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      • Apr 2005
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      #17
      Re: Worst sports team cities.

      I think the first thing to do is eliminate any major market for three reasons.

      1. They don't lose teams. Of the top 13 markets, I believe the last to lose a professional team are the LA Rams and the Washington Senators.

      2. None of them are actually all that bad. Of the top 13 markets, LA, NY, Philly, Dallas, Chi, the Bay, Boston, ATL, Houston, Detroit, Phoenix, and Tampa have all had championship contending teams in the 2000s, and 8 (I think, I don't know entirely about hockey) have had chip teams.

      3. Of the remaining city (Washington), in the last 10 years we've seen Major League Baseball return to the city, 3 local Final Four programs (GMU, Georgetown, and UMD), a local National Championship NCAA basketball team (UMD), easily the best highschool basketball in the country, and the best player in the world in hockey. Football has suffered, but if you're a Ravens fan it's all good, and if you're a Skins fan next year is uncapped.

      To me it boils down to Cleveland, Kansas City, and Seattle.

      Cleveland has the 'chip' drought, but has a top 3 player in the NBA and a solid MLB team. I would imagine most fans are OSU fans, so they have that too.

      KC has the worst MLB, no basketball success in the NBA (obviously) or instate college wise (though Lawrence isn't too far away). The Chiefs were solid from 2003-2006, but lost every playoff game.

      Seattle is more of a "kick to the testes" city. Their teams have been solid, but haven't delivered what they could have. Their NBA team moved, their NFL team went from "should've won the chip" to doormats in 2 years, and their MLB team went from the "All Could've Been" team to "All Playing for Someone Else" in 3 years.

      Personally, I'd go:

      1. Kansas City
      2. Seattle
      3. Cleveland
      Last edited by Cebby; 12-23-2009, 12:34 AM.

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      • Whitesox
        Closet pyromaniac
        • Mar 2009
        • 5287

        #18
        Re: Worst sports team cities.

        Originally posted by TheBadazz
        What city do you think have the worst sport teams? I don't mean just one sport, all the major sports teams in that city.

        I would like to nominate Chicago. I know the Blackhawks are downing their thing, but the Cubs, Sox, Bears, Sky,and Bulls all suck. Also all of those teams can't seem to develop their own talent. When a young get drafted, either they have early success and falls apart or gets dumped before they reach their potential.

        At least the Cubs have new owners. Maybe something will change. But the rest, I don't see it happening. The Bulls and Sox are owned by a guy who clearly loves baseball over basketball. The Bears are owned by a little old lady, and they're just a mess. I don't even care about the Sky (sorry).
        Although not many people care, the Fire are also doing well.

        The Sox won their last championship in 2005, 4 teams have won since then, so there are 25 teams that are on a longer drought.

        It could be worse, we could be like Oakland.
        But hey, what can I expect? This thread is just gonna turn into a "My city sucks worse than yours!" argument. For some reason people trying to claim they have the worst city.
        Last edited by Whitesox; 12-23-2009, 12:49 AM.
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        • BatsareBugs
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          • Feb 2003
          • 12553

          #19
          Re: Worst sports team cities.

          Originally posted by Blzer
          Sad that everybody is nominating their cities. (EDIT: Well, based on the first page)

          Strangely though, San Diego has its downfalls despite its large potential. No basketball or hockey team, every fan is a bandwagoner, and there have been numerous talks of the Chargers leaving the city as well. Not to mention their baseball team is holding onto one last player before they completely drop off the map as the worst team in the majors, and the SDSU Aztecs football program is probably of the worst in D1 in the past five years.

          Though the Chargers can't seem to ever make a Super Bowl, we sure like to host them.

          I wouldn't say they're of the worst sports cities though... they just need to get the right people and make the right decisions. The city itself is remarkably beautiful for sports and deserves to be praised.


          But yeah, San Diego has a ton of issues.

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          • TheBadazz
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            • Jun 2004
            • 2610

            #20
            Re: Worst sports team cities.

            Yeah the Fire and Wolves are good. To me, this is more of a venting session.
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            • justmanj
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              • Dec 2008
              • 206

              #21
              Re: Worst sports team cities.

              Originally posted by Cebby
              I think the first thing to do is eliminate any major market for three reasons.

              1. They don't lose teams. Of the top 13 markets, I believe the last to lose a professional team are the LA Rams and the Washington Senators.

              2. None of them are actually all that bad. Of the top 13 markets, LA, NY, Philly, Dallas, Chi, the Bay, Boston, ATL, Houston, Detroit, Phoenix, and Tampa have all had championship contending teams in the 2000s, and 8 (I think, I don't know entirely about hockey) have had chip teams.

              3. Of the remaining city (Washington), in the last 10 years we've seen Major League Baseball return to the city, 3 local Final Four programs (GMU, Georgetown, and UMD), a local National Championship NCAA basketball team (UMD), easily the best highschool basketball in the country, and the best player in the world in hockey. Football has suffered, but if you're a Ravens fan it's all good, and if you're a Skins fan next year is uncapped.

              To me it boils down to Cleveland, Kansas City, and Seattle.

              Cleveland has the 'chip' drought, but has a top 3 player in the NBA and a solid MLB team. I would imagine most fans are OSU fans, so they have that too.

              KC has the worst MLB, no basketball success in the NBA (obviously) or instate college wise (though Lawrence isn't too far away). The Chiefs were solid from 2003-2006, but lost every playoff game.

              Seattle is more of a "kick to the testes" city. Their teams have been solid, but haven't delivered what they could have. Their NBA team moved, their NFL team went from "should've won the chip" to doormats in 2 years, and their MLB team went from the "All Could've Been" team to "All Playing for Someone Else" in 3 years.

              Personally, I'd go:

              1. Kansas City
              2. Seattle
              3. Cleveland
              The Tribe are going nowhere soon. Ever since the Dolans took over the Tribe, they have been a dead franchise walking. It pains me to say this because I love the Indians more than any of my other Cleveland teams. When your sports city has a website called waitingfornextyear.com, you know that city is the worst. And you guys talk about the Cavs, as much as it pains me to say this, but if LeBron leaves, the Cavs go back to the days of Ricky Davis trying to shoot at his own hoop for a triple double (still hate that jerk).

              My list goes:
              1. Cleveland
              2. Oakland
              3. Seattle

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              • Bellsprout
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                • Oct 2009
                • 25652

                #22
                Re: Worst sports team cities.

                Milwaukee.

                Bucks have sucked for awhile now, the Brewers were good for a year and not so good last year. Not to mention the market is so small there's not much that can be done to fix either team and make them good for more than a couple years when their good players go to bigger markets for tons more money (C.C.).

                Put another way: Our teams are so bad that just making the Playoffs, like the Crew did in 08, felt like we had won the World Series.
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                • BunnyHardaway
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                  • Nov 2004
                  • 15195

                  #23
                  Re: Worst sports team cities.

                  Originally posted by Cebby
                  Seattle is more of a "kick to the testes" city. Their teams have been solid, but haven't delivered what they could have. Their NBA team moved, their NFL team went from "should've won the chip" to doormats in 2 years, and their MLB team went from the "All Could've Been" team to "All Playing for Someone Else" in 3 years.
                  However they were just granted a successful MLS franchise that appears to be the second coming of the New York Cosmos. Not to mention the Mariners are on the upswing, but I guess the whole Sonics situation negates both of those things.

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                  • MC Fatigue
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                    • Feb 2006
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                    #24
                    Re: Worst sports team cities.

                    Toronto always comes to mind. So much money, so little to show for it.

                    I always find it a little sad to think about the Raptors. I mean seriously, look at their draft pick history:

                    Damon Stoudamire
                    Marcus Camby
                    Tracy McGrady
                    Vince Carter (not entirely their pick, but traded for on draft day or something like that).
                    Chris Bosh

                    What do they have to show for it? A bunch of ungrateful players who wanted out as quickly as possible... They could have had one hell of a team and instead they've got absolutely nothing. I'm not really sure how they've managed to hold onto Bosh for so long.

                    I don't even watch basketball, I find it fairly boring, but I can't help but feel pretty bad for the Raptors with their history.

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                    • justamush
                      Cutch Happens
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 930

                      #25
                      Re: Worst sports team cities.

                      Originally posted by WeAreAllWitnesses
                      Milwaukee.

                      Bucks have sucked for awhile now, the Brewers were good for a year and not so good last year. Not to mention the market is so small there's not much that can be done to fix either team and make them good for more than a couple years when their good players go to bigger markets for tons more money (C.C.).

                      Put another way: Our teams are so bad that just making the Playoffs, like the Crew did in 08, felt like we had won the World Series.
                      Wouldn't the Packers also be included in this discussion? I know they are not in Milwaukee, but I'm sure most people in Milwaukee root for them.

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                      • justamush
                        Cutch Happens
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 930

                        #26
                        Re: Worst sports team cities.

                        To answer the OP, I would go with Cleveland. They have Lebron (for now), so at least the Cavs are good.

                        But there football team is joke who is going to have their 3rd Head Coach in 3 years, and the 2 best pitchers in the World Series were Cleveland Indians as recent as 2 years ago. If that is not a kick in the gut I don't know what is.

                        Obviously Pittsburgh wouldn't qualify because of the Steelers and Pens, but we still do have the Buccos!!!! So we might be the best at some sports, but we are the worst in baseball. 17 and counting!!!!!!

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                        • Jasong7777
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                          • May 2005
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                          #27
                          Re: Worst sports team cities.

                          Cleveland
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                          • Cebby
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 22327

                            #28
                            Re: Worst sports team cities.

                            Originally posted by JJLinn
                            However they were just granted a successful MLS franchise that appears to be the second coming of the New York Cosmos. Not to mention the Mariners are on the upswing, but I guess the whole Sonics situation negates both of those things.
                            Nobody cares about American soccer and I don't see how some New York beverage is relevant to the conversation. You might as well bring up the WNBA or some Nascar driver being from a city.

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                            • BunnyHardaway
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                              • Nov 2004
                              • 15195

                              #29
                              Re: Worst sports team cities.

                              Originally posted by Cebby
                              Nobody cares about American soccer and I don't see how some New York beverage is relevant to the conversation. You might as well bring up the WNBA or some Nascar driver being from a city.
                              Seattle Sounders FC averaged 31,000 per home game which shattered MLS attendance records, and this was their first year in existence. That number ranked 50th in the entire world. They also drew nearly 67,000 at Qwest Field in a friendly against Barcelona and 65,000 in a friendly against Chelsea.

                              You can also make sarcastic comments about the Cosmos all you want, but in the late 70's they sold out Giants Stadium on a consistent basis and fielded one of the best teams in the world.

                              Just because you don't care about American soccer doesn't mean nobody else does.
                              Last edited by BunnyHardaway; 12-23-2009, 12:10 PM.

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                              • throwmonkey
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 750

                                #30
                                Re: Worst sports team cities.

                                Originally posted by Cebby
                                Seattle is more of a "kick to the testes" city. Their teams have been solid, but haven't delivered what they could have. Their NBA team moved, their NFL team went from "should've won the chip" to doormats in 2 years, and their MLB team went from the "All Could've Been" team to "All Playing for Someone Else" in 3 years.
                                Could add in the Washington Huskies winning 17 football games the last 6 years as well.

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