Any paranormal things you believe in?

[cch99]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

It’s like in the Matrix. Even if it’s not real it sure as hell feels like it to me. I can’t stop it or change it so it’s real enough.

There’s a part of me that thinks at the end of the day. What difference does it make. In the long run really nothing matters. It matters to you while you are alive but beyond that even if there is something else in a certain sense it doesn’t really matter. You live in your own head.

I mean if you think about it everything is really ridiculous. Rules upon rules. From religion to religion. It’s kind of funny.

Interesting to talk about but no matter what is there is about nothing you can do in the grand scheme to make a difference.

Try to treat people right and do what makes you happy.

I will say that if it’s like the Matrix and you could control it at all and I find out I’m pissed. I could have been in the NBA dunking on Jordan.


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[Blzer]

Any paranormal things you believe in?

This is going to totally start as a Matrix-based question that I planned on asking several days ago. I thought about it while away from home, and at the time didn't know where to post it, so I think here would be best. Hopefully somebody kind of knows the answer:

After Neo asks Morpheus if he can go back and he says no, Morpheus then tells Neo (I think I have this quote down pat):

"We have a rule: we never free a mind once it's reached a certain age. It's dangerous; the mind has trouble letting go. I've seen it before, and I'm sorry."

I was curious if this meant that the person simply has trouble as they're being reinserted into the matrix itself, or after they're reinserted they have a little lingering effect and act on it later like Brooks from Shawshank?

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I know this seems like an inconsequential question since the result is the same regardless, but this is all regarding "refusing to accept the reality you're living." What ultimately becomes the point of this civilization if we are all just in a simulation, after all? You'd think those in our universe who found out we were a part of something greater (non-spiritually so, at least) that some of us would be contacted and perhaps even crossed over to that side? I mean unless we don't work in real time, this simulation has gone on for at least six thousand years or so? Are our makers also human? Are they ageless? Is this run as fast as a microsecond to them and working parallel to another run nearby? Are the words I type right now of my control or a variable in an equation?

I think this is where Occam's razor kicks in (as we say that the simplest solution is the best/most likely solution). No matter the answer as to how/why we're alive, a biological/potentially spiritual answer currently holds more logical weight than a technological answer. Saying that "we can't prove that we're not in a simulation is not proof that we are." I just told my smart-*** student the other day that there is one of me while all ten groups each have four group members, so if he has a question it's best that he asks them before asking me, blah blah blah... anyway, he goes: "Prove it." He wants me to prove that there's only one of me. What the **** kind of question is that? He's in this "prove it" phase of responding to me that I don't have time for. I shouldn't have to disprove a counterclaim simply because one is made, because it's simply a fallacy.

I'm not saying the computer simulation idea is wrong or absurd, but what greater idea are we pointing to here? That the simulation contains glitches and anomalies like ghosts, vampires, werewolves, and aliens? That we are surrendering to and protected by a greater power than ourselves such as gods and angels? That the possibility of life only existing on earth is the cause of the parameters set forth in said simulation? I haven't read anything about this before (outside of asking "What if we created a simulation?") and this is admittedly the first time I had ever heard of this question for ourselves, but for me it's just a question. I don't see the reason behind seeing it as truth. And I realize that's what The Matrix is all about in the first place, but those who learn about the other form of control are also freed (I also always wondered... do they then become "missing persons" in that world?).

End rambled thought.

[cch99]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

I don’t know the answer to your matrix question but at the end of the day if it feels real to your head it’s your reality. Does the actual reality even matter?

As far as simplest solution to me would be what you see is what you get. There is no big point. You live, you die. There is no grand plan it just is.

Now I don’t think I agree with that whole line of thinking., simplest answer, because it doesn’t hold up a lot. Sure it does sometimes but generally I don’t think it does most of the time.


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[Blzer]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

I don’t know the answer to your matrix question but at the end of the day if it feels real to your head it’s your reality. Does the actual reality even matter?

That's part of what I'm saying for the question of this being a simulation. Why would those in this world (or The Matrix's computer world) ever have a want, will, or need to question their own reality? Of course, until you see someone stop bullets or a person morph into an agent, but I haven't seen that here so...

As far as simplest solution to me would be what you see is what you get. There is no big point. You live, you die. There is no grand plan it just is.

Now I don’t think I agree with that whole line of thinking., simplest answer, because it doesn’t hold up a lot. Sure it does sometimes but generally I don’t think it does most of the time.

You're right on the simplest being "no grand plan," though I guess I was speaking more to the testimonies of people seeing the paranormal or maybe stating "the things in the Bible really happened," etc. By solution, I meant explanation as to how those things could have happened in the first place. If people's solution to that is that we exist as a simulation, I'm not seeing a shred of evidence really pointing in that direction or line of thought. Of course, the other solution pointing to what you said would really be those stories are fabricated or hallucinogenic.

I'm sure the idea is likely somewhat inspired by The Matrix, but I'm also sure this has been thought up before and since 1999 anyway. Not to mention that although the Wachowski's had a lot of spiritual/biblical undertones in the trilogy, their inspiration likely drew from the idea of the singularity, closer to that of The Terminator than some other messianic film or literature.

[cch99]

Any paranormal things you believe in?

People think they see things all the time. Even when there are eyewitnesses at times people don’t pay attention to details, etc.

I mean I’ve never seen anything that couldn’t be explained. In a sense that I mean nothing supernatural.

If people want to believe whatever they want I’m pretty much fine with it. Even if I don’t believe or disagree I don’t need to rain on anybody’s parade unless it negatively effects me or someone else personally.

The funny thing is the way my head works I pretty much think we will never know. It’s fun to talk about but at the end of the day I don’t think we get to know.

Though honestly if this life is some type of test or something religious based I think a. It’s bs because how and where your born and live life make a huge amount of difference. B. It’s the old infinity question because even then after that then what.

Dahhhh.


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[PVarck31]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

Just a reminder, any talk about religion is prohibited here.

Not saying anyone has broken any rules. But just try to keep it very limited.

Thanks.

[l3ulvl]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

I've never watched any Matrix movies so I skipped the previous posts.

Plus they were too long

[Majingir]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

My main alien theory, everything people believe about them is wrong. Do they really need water or oxygen or anything to survive? Who knows what kind of things could've survived/evolved over millions/billions of years on some other planet.

[l3ulvl]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

My main alien theory, everything people believe about them is wrong. Do they really need water or oxygen or anything to survive? Who knows what kind of things could've survived/evolved over millions/billions of years on some other planet.

oh I'm so with you on that, just because we thrive on oxygen doesn't mean every single living creature in the universe does

[PVarck31]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

My main alien theory, everything people believe about them is wrong. Do they really need water or oxygen or anything to survive? Who knows what kind of things could've survived/evolved over millions/billions of years on some other planet.

oh I'm so with you on that, just because we thrive on oxygen doesn't mean every single living creature in the universe does

https://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/possibility-silicon-based-life-grows/

A growing theory in silicon based life.

[Master Live 013]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

Definition of paranormal
:not scientifically explainable: supernatural.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paranormal

No.

I don't consider extraterrestrial life to fall under the paranormal. It is highly probable that life exists somewhere outside of Earth in the vast Universe.

[pietasterp]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

I believe in the curse of Bobby Layne.

[l3ulvl]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

I believe in the curse of Bobby Layne.

bring in all the investigators you want, this is something that cannot be debunked

(plus no one cares about the Lions, so investigators will never be brought in anyway), is this a win or loss for Lions fans?

does anyone care? no?



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[onlybygrace]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

If it cannot be demonstrated to exist, then i dont waste my time believing it.

I hold ZERO supernatural beliefs.

[Jr.]

Re: Any paranormal things you believe in?

If it cannot be demonstrated to exist, then i dont waste my time believing it.

I hold ZERO supernatural beliefs.

Depends on your definition of demonstrated. There's a lot of video evidence of supernatural phenomena

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