Another School Shooting

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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A bunch of you guys seem pretty gun-ho on the death penalty, I just want to remind you that we can't let emotion, or revenge run a justice system. Because when people let emotion get the best of them, that is how situations like this one arise in the first place.

I guess I'm just an eye for an eye person. Our justice system is too soft, people arent afraid nor intimidated by it. Going to jail is the least of their worries.

If someone kills someone I believe they deserve death. Going to jail with your cable tv and free meals a day isn't the punishment they deserve in my opinion.

[JBH3]

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I become a little bigger fan of cruel and unusual punishments for psychopathic and/or sadistic criminals every day.

It's time to give capital punishment some teeth again.

I agree. Especially for child killers/pedophiles.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02...y6202062.shtml

Unfathomable is the correct word, What the hell, Why? I read all that with my mouth wide open and horrified. I swear everyone that was guilty of this should be shot execution style. WTF...

They were absolutely sick individuals.

I once had that same line of thought as well. It wasn't until I took my criminal justice courses in college as part of my degree that I started to rethink it.

The cost of carrying out a death sentence is extraordinarily high. Insanely so. This is because every state and the federal government are required to carry out a lengthy appeal and review process in order to make sure that the verdict of guilty is 100% correct. If there is even the smallest amount of doubt as to the guilt of the suspect, they can not carry out the execution. Now why is this? While I am not speaking for everyone, I personally feel as though the execution of a wrongfully convicted innocent person is far, far, far, far worse than any crime any human being could commit.

I actually feel that imprisoning someone for life is a far better punishment than death. When a criminal is executed, they no longer can feel pain. They no longer have any worries, or anxiety, or suffering. If you leave someone locked up for life, they have to worry about someone beating on them or raping them in jail. They have to deal with the fact that they have no freedom and can never get it. If they get ill, they have to suffer with illness. Basically, it's worse torture because they CAN suffer and they CAN feel pain. Plus, if for some reason it's found that the convicted was in reality innocent and the jury (who are human and no human is perfect) made a mistake.

Now as for a punishment I would agree with, that would be sanding their gentials raw each day and immersing them in lemon juice. Every time the scabs form, rip them off and repeat the process.

I definitely see this side of it too. I've had my own experience w/ the death penalty. Currently, there is a trial going on in the building I work in on MCB Quantico. It is to decide the fate of LCpl Wade L. Walker.

Since you took criminal justice you're probably aware of the cost on the taxpayer to take a capital case to trial.

Through the appeals process Walker was granted a new trial to decide life in prison or death. This due to determine the premeditated nature of the murders him and 3 other Marines committed in 1992 in the Jacksonville, NC area. Because through appeals his defense said that him and other Marines were inebriated that this negates 'premeditation'.

More info on the case is here. Basically it's cost our base in upwards of $300K between FY09 and FY10 to refit the courtroom, contract expert consultants, and bring in witnesses etc. Way too much money to decide the fate of a scumbag human being. So I can definitely see locking them up and throwing away the key.

Although how much does it cost to keep a person alive who is doing life in prison?

[legendkiller5]

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I guess I'm just an eye for an eye person. Our justice system is too soft, people arent afraid nor intimidated by it. Going to jail is the least of their worries.

If someone kills someone I believe they deserve death. Going to jail with your cable tv and free meals a day isn't the punishment they deserve in my opinion.

The United States has far and away the harshest justice system in any democratic country in the world. The problem isn't this; it's the sources of the criminals and the "correctional" system itself. But that's another topic for another day.

I do agree that prison for some people is better than their life was on the outside.