Terror In Moscow

[Cusefan]

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You guys are really underestimating some of the fanatics within our country. To think that Timothy mcveigh is one in 300,000,000 is ignorant and dangerous, its only a matter of time before a buildinh gets blown up or a politician is assassinated.

As far as the tea party thing goes, they worry me because they are saying stuff that gets that .001% riled up. In Pittsburgh a few cops were assassinated because a nut thought thought the government was going to take his guns away. People need to be more responsible in what they say in front of the podium because some people will take everything literally and grab a AK47

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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Man, those pictures are GRAPHIC.

Agreed. I was shocked to see that on a news site, one showed a dead guy all bloody and you could see his face. Then one showed a severed arm or leg and bodies on the floor.

[SPTO]

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As far as the tea party thing goes, they worry me because they are saying stuff that gets that .001% riled up. In Pittsburgh a few cops were assassinated because a nut thought thought the government was going to take his guns away. People need to be more responsible in what they say in front of the podium because some people will take everything literally and grab a AK47

That's why the Tea Party folks worry me. They spout a lot of rhetoric that will appeal to nutbars and extremists. Hell, there's even a racial undertone to some of the rhetoric i've heard that's pretty troubling. I've also heard some telephone messages left to senators and congress people that just blows me away in the vitrol and hate being spewed out.

The polarization of the American public is at it's most extreme since probably the Civil War days.

[jetercanoturn2]

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You guys are really underestimating some of the fanatics within our country. To think that Timothy mcveigh is one in 300,000,000 is ignorant and dangerous, its only a matter of time before a buildinh gets blown up or a politician is assassinated.

As far as the tea party thing goes, they worry me because they are saying stuff that gets that .001% riled up. In Pittsburgh a few cops were assassinated because a nut thought thought the government was going to take his guns away. People need to be more responsible in what they say in front of the podium because some people will take everything literally and grab a AK47

Yea there's no doubt, alot of evil and ignorance out there. Crazy ish like people believing Bush blew up the towers, now that's scary. I had a GF whose mom was a devout Christian allegedly I might add.... and she honestly though Bush blew up the toweres, it really is amazing how much ignorance is out there, and that's as political as I'm a go, don't want to violate the TOS.

[OSUFan_88]

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You guys are really underestimating some of the fanatics within our country.

I don't think so. I think a lot of us have a real good feel on the fanatics within our country.

But to suggest that America will ever see anything like Chechnya is foolishness. Hell, you can probably include Canada and Mexico into that as well.

As for the Tea Party, it is their legal right to speak. To single them out is foolish and irresponsible. They only cover a view point of some Americans and if you really think there will be a sustain revolt against the Federal Government that does not involve at least a 20 states, then you'd be fooling yourself.

[SPTO]

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As for the Tea Party, it is their legal right to speak. To single them out is foolish and irresponsible. They only cover a view point of some Americans and if you really think there will be a sustain revolt against the Federal Government that does not involve at least a 20 states, then you'd be fooling yourself.

I don't think there's going to be a sustained revolt but stranger things have happened. You are right though that they're too small a group right now to really matter but their voice is loud and very clear. It's just a troubling thing to see it happening.

The only way the Tea Party Movement becomes something that's truly a danger to society as we know it is if they have a leader who feeds on their fears and misconceptions about things. When that happens then you know the crap is going to hit the fan.

At least Sarah Palin is smart enough not to completely wrap her arms around the movement and I sometimes wonder if these people even realize that they're being played because no politician in his or her right mind would fully embrace a group that's so far out of the margins.

Nonetheless it's an interesting and somewhat disturbing phenomenon that warrants some scrutiny.

Anyways i'll bow out of this conversation for now. If you want to discuss more with me just PM moi

[jetercanoturn2]

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I don't think so. I think a lot of us have a real good feel on the fanatics within our country.

But to suggest that America will ever see anything like Chechnya is foolishness. Hell, you can probably include Canada and Mexico into that as well.

As for the Tea Party, it is their legal right to speak. To single them out is foolish and irresponsible. They only cover a view point of some Americans and if you really think there will be a sustain revolt against the Federal Government that does not involve at least a 20 states, then you'd be fooling yourself.

Yea the Tea Party is not the start of the secon Civil War lol We are not that ignorant anymore. There may be a few extremists in that group, but most of them are harmless decent people rallying for something they feel is important. And our President, Senators, etc... are always at risk. Obama probably more then any other President. There will always be fanatical idiots and extremist's out there, that's just the way it is and always will be.

However, Mexico is not immune to that type of activity in my opinion, that place is really going down hill from what I've heard, Like I said they can't even control their own Drug Cartels from starting an ongoing war, It's getting real bad over there, and I don't like how close that is to the US.

[Cebby]

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That's why the Tea Party folks worry me. They spout a lot of rhetoric that will appeal to nutbars and extremists. Hell, there's even a racial undertone to some of the rhetoric i've heard that's pretty troubling. I've also heard some telephone messages left to senators and congress people that just blows me away in the vitrol and hate being spewed out.

The polarization of the American public is at it's most extreme since probably the Civil War days.

The United States is polarized, but it's not close to polarized enough for a civil war or even mass violence.

The best way to think about American politics is the Auburn/Alabama/Tennessee football rivalry. Is there a lot of hate? Yes. Does it consume way to much energy relative to how big the issue is? Yes. Do all sides act without any regard for rational thought? Yes. Is it possible for an occasional assault to take place? Yes. Will any of the three try to blow up the other program's stadium during a game? No.

The Tea Party movement is just the right's version of the anti-war movement from 2003-2005. They're upset with the direction the country is going in so they protest and make ridiculous Hitler comparisons but are mostly harmless.

This isn't even close to Chechnya whose inhabitants have been engaging in guerrilla wars with Russia for well over 150 years now.

[jetercanoturn2]

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Nobody else is worried about the instability of Mexico?

[daflyboys]

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I'm suprised no attacks like this haven't started happening in America.

This is why we CANNOT put terrorist suspects on trial as if they were ordinary, regular criminals. Should this undermine our intelligence methods and techniques, we have had it. But in all their infinite wisdom, this is what the ACLU would have us do. Oh yeah, the ACLU. The same group of whackjobs that wants to protect NAMBLA. Isn't that lovely?

[Cusefan]

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The Tea Party movement is just the right's version of the anti-war movement from 2003-2005. They're upset with the direction the country is going in so they protest and make ridiculous Hitler comparisons but are mostly harmless.

Remember when people called those Anti-War Protesters Traitors and Anti-American, Well the door swings both ways.

Yea the Tea Party is not the start of the secon Civil War lol We are not that ignorant anymore. There may be a few extremists in that group, but most of them are harmless decent people rallying for something they feel is important. And our President, Senators, etc... are always at risk. Obama probably more then any other President. There will always be fanatical idiots and extremist's out there, that's just the way it is and always will be.

However, Mexico is not immune to that type of activity in my opinion, that place is really going down hill from what I've heard, Like I said they can't even control their own Drug Cartels from starting an ongoing war, It's getting real bad over there, and I don't like how close that is to the US.

Yea There is no way this Tea-Party thing could end up as a Civil War or even unrest, Most Americans are too Lazy and Fat to take up arms against Fellow Americans. Manufacturer Bob is not going to go grab a M16 to fight them damn dirty Hippies.

But to suggest that America will ever see anything like Chechnya is foolishness. Hell, you can probably include Canada and Mexico into that as well.

I dont think anyone Suggested that a Chechnya like situation could happen here in the States. To our Credit, Americans handle Fear quite well. We do not cower or back down when we are attacked, We Eliminate the problem with due haste.

As for the Tea Party, it is their legal right to speak. To single them out is foolish and irresponsible. They only cover a view point of some Americans and if you really think there will be a sustain revolt against the Federal Government that does not involve at least a 20 states, then you'd be fooling yourself.

You wouldn't Yell Bomb in a crowded area, yet that is what some of these tea partiers are doing in different words. Telling a bunch of Crazy Militia men that the Government is going to take away their guns is not only irresponsible but untrue. How often do we hear these people say they are going to take away all our Guns, yet no Self respecting politician would ever suggest anything close to taking away guns.

[Cebby]

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Nobody else is worried about the instability of Mexico?

Unless you live in a border state, there's not much reason to.

Terrorists want exposure in the US. Drug cartels want Mexican police/army to be terrified of them, but they want the DEA and FBI as far away from them as possible.

If you're a drug dealer competing with a Mexican cartel or going to Mexico you should be terrified. If you live in a border state you should be on guard. Otherwise, you should be fine.

[Cebby]

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Remember when people called those Anti-War Protesters Traitors and Anti-American, Well the door swings both ways.

Of course it does. Side A is in power so side B protests and propagates end of the world hypotheticals while side A mocks them. Then side B takes power and side A protests and side B mocks.

It's a time honored tradition and as long as you don't sympathize with either side, it's quite enjoyable. Personally I love going onto the two main fringe sites that represent the left and right. The detachment from reality on both sides is enjoyable and it's hilarious to me.

[TheMatrix31]

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I know I was the one who started the topic, but please, let's lay off our domestic politics and try to keep it on point.

[jetercanoturn2]

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Unless you live in a border state, there's not much reason to.

Terrorists want exposure in the US. Drug cartels want Mexican police/army to be terrified of them, but they want the DEA and FBI as far away from them as possible.

If you're a drug dealer competing with a Mexican cartel or going to Mexico you should be terrified. If you live in a border state you should be on guard. Otherwise, you should be fine.

Nah I'm not the least worried about Drug Cartels, even if I lived in the South west, but I can't help but think terrorists are gonna make Mexico their route to the U.S., I'd say that is the softest area to get into the U.S, even with Border patrol.