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  • GAMEC0CK2002
    Stayin Alive
    • Aug 2002
    • 10384

    #46
    Re: Anyone good at probability?

    I went 2 for 3. Not too bad.

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    • deaduck
      MVP
      • Mar 2009
      • 2389

      #47
      Re: Anyone good at probability?

      Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
      I went 2 for 3. Not too bad.
      Way better than me, I got my silly self hung up on the nature of the questions.

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      • PVarck31
        Moderator
        • Jan 2003
        • 16869

        #48
        Re: Anyone good at probability?

        I woke up and somehow I was in this thread. I thought I was dead, and gone to hell.

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        • GAMEC0CK2002
          Stayin Alive
          • Aug 2002
          • 10384

          #49
          Re: Anyone good at probability?

          Originally posted by deaduck
          Way better than me, I got my silly self hung up on the nature of the questions.
          Back when I was in grade school i tested for and was labeled "gifted and talented". All the GT kids got taken out of regular school all day, once a week, from grades 4-8. We'd have logic problems and enrichment units.

          It was fun times (I'm 30 now).

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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42515

            #50
            Re: Anyone good at probability?

            Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
            Back when I was in grade school i tested for and was labeled "gifted and talented". All the GT kids got taken out of regular school all day, once a week, from grades 4-8. We'd have logic problems and enrichment units.

            It was fun times (I'm 30 now).
            Yeah, in 4th and 5th grade we had something called GATE (gifted and talented education). We had some logic problems and also dissected a lamb's eye for some reason.
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            • mudman
              Rookie
              • Sep 2003
              • 200

              #51
              Re: Anyone good at probability?

              Originally posted by deaduck
              The question isn't crystal clear...it's dependent on the unexplained manner in which the 4 are picked from the group of Dem/Rep. Replacement issues aside...if you know the result of each draw as a single action...the remaining probability changes.
              The 'manner in which the 4 are picked' is random and being chosen at random is very specific. If they weren't being chosen randomly, the problem would have to give the criteria that governs the process of choosing them. None was given so it's assumed to be random. This is very standard, otherwise you'd have questions that ended in a bunch of crap that, basically, would act as a disclaimer to all the "well, it doesn't technically say (insert condition)... so it's not clear".

              I use to think that until I watched a top notch mathematician destroy the assumptions of math. She shreaded all the axioms of Geometry/Trig...evicerated Calculus and about gave me a concussion verbally by ruining the concept of zero for me forever. Plus she was kind of cute.
              Your 'top notch mathematician' is probably viewed as joke in the mathematics community. If she 'evicerated' calculus, we'd never have landed anybody on the moon, or even successfully launched a shuttle for that matter...or made it much past the wright brothers when it comes to flight. There's a reason every law of nature, every chemical and biological process can be explained through mathematics.

              Oh, and zero isn't a concept, it's a number that represents a quantity. Infinity is a concept, zero is not.

              I'm 99% sure I already know the answer, but....got a link, or even a name of this chick?

              I would love to see what BS she's spewing out these days.
              Last edited by mudman; 06-22-2010, 09:13 PM.

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              • deaduck
                MVP
                • Mar 2009
                • 2389

                #52
                Re: Anyone good at probability?

                Originally posted by mudman
                The 'manner in which the 4 are picked' is random and being chosen at random is very specific. If they weren't being chosen randomly, the problem would have to give the criteria that governs the process of choosing them. None was given so it's assumed to be random. This is very standard, otherwise you'd have questions that ended in a bunch of crap that, basically, would act as a disclaimer to all the "well, it doesn't technically say (insert condition)... so it's not clear".
                You completly missed my point. Not that the pick was random...but That if you knew the results of the previous pick before making the next. It changes the probability.


                Originally posted by mudman
                Your 'top notch mathematician' is probably viewed as joke in the mathematics community. If she 'evicerated' calculus, we'd never have landed anybody on the moon, or even successfully launched a shuttle for that matter...or made it much past the wright brothers when it comes to flight. There's a reason every law of nature, every chemical and biological process can be explained through mathematics.

                Oh, and zero isn't a concept, it's a number that represents a quantity. Infinity is a concept, zero is not.

                I'm 99% sure I already know the answer, but....got a link, or even a name of this chick?
                Man, I don't even know where to start...let's start with the lady...not sure of her name. This would have been at the University of Tennessee in 1988 and she was a guest lecturer in my Abstract math class. She had multiple degrees and had wrote a couple of books on the fallibility of math. I tried one but her writing was above my pay grade. She had a taller thinner Janeane Garofalo thing going on. If you know her name please share it, I'd love to see whats she's done sense way back then.

                Considering the packed auditorium she spoke to and the enjoyability of the talk, I tend to disagree with your idea that she was a joke. You can disagree with her all you want about her ideas but she was insanely smart... and not a brain to be ridiculed.

                And she's not the first or only person to reason while zero has a numerical standard, it has little value philosophically or conceptually. As for the "quantity" it represents...There was a reason the class was about abstract mathmatics.

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