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  • z Revis
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    • Oct 2008
    • 13639

    #16
    Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

    Summit County Common Pleas Judge Patricia Cosgrove sentenced Williams-Bolar last week to five years in prison, but suspended all but 10 days.
    I read this part wrong, thinking she had to spend 5 years in prison. I about freaked.

    Still, 3 years of probation and if she slips up once she's in prison for 5 years? A little stupid. Someone already said it, common sense should've prevailed here.
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    • NDAlum
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      • Jun 2010
      • 11453

      #17
      Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

      Originally posted by Cebby
      You guys don't understand how schools are funded.

      The school she was sending her kids to are mostly funded by property taxes. She wasn't paying property taxes in that county.

      The school she was supposed to send her kids to are mostly state funded on a per kid basis. By not enrolling her kids in the this school she cost the school tens of thousands in funding.

      That's why she was charged. If her children were going to the incorrect school within a school district it doesn't matter. When you cross district lines you are committing theft. Given the line about "almost always resolves cases without courts", I'm guessing they figured it out, told her, and she continued to do it.
      Exactly. Schools also get money by their attendance rates.

      We have truancy spots in our area to go around and pick up the kids who don't go to school and take them. Seriously

      Bottom line: the media can twist this story any way they want.
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      • z Revis
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        • Oct 2008
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        #18
        Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

        Originally posted by Cebby
        You guys don't understand how schools are funded.

        The school she was sending her kids to are mostly funded by property taxes. She wasn't paying property taxes in that county.

        The school she was supposed to send her kids to are mostly state funded on a per kid basis. By not enrolling her kids in the this school she cost the school tens of thousands in funding.

        That's why she was charged. If her children were going to the incorrect school within a school district it doesn't matter. When you cross district lines you are committing theft. Given the line about "almost always resolves cases without courts", I'm guessing they figured it out, told her, and she continued to do it.
        Ah OK, this makes it a lot more bearable.
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        • Jukeman
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          #19
          Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

          I thought the NCAA only pimped their students

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          • AUChase
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            • Jul 2008
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            #20
            Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

            I understand what she did was against the law, but it's still a severe penalty.

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            • NDAlum
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              • Jun 2010
              • 11453

              #21
              Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

              Originally posted by Jukeman
              I thought the NCAA only pimped their students

              I learn something new every day!
              I don't get it

              Originally posted by AUChase89
              I understand what she did was against the law, but it's still a severe penalty.
              Well for the charge she was convicted of, there was probably a harsh minimum penalty. I am assuming this was a serious felony based on the state laws.

              10 days in jail, 10 days of community service (assuming 8 hr days), and supervised probabtion.

              If she spent 2 days in jail when first arrested she'll get time served on those, so 8 days.
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              • GAMEC0CK2002
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                • Aug 2002
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                #22
                Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                Originally posted by Cebby
                You guys don't understand how schools are funded.

                The school she was sending her kids to are mostly funded by property taxes. She wasn't paying property taxes in that county.

                The school she was supposed to send her kids to are mostly state funded on a per kid basis. By not enrolling her kids in the this school she cost the school tens of thousands in funding.

                That's why she was charged. If her children were going to the incorrect school within a school district it doesn't matter. When you cross district lines you are committing theft. Given the line about "almost always resolves cases without courts", I'm guessing they figured it out, told her, and she continued to do it.
                Pretty much. The school district I work for is in a legal suit with the neighboring school district about kids that live on the county lines. Logistically and common sense says they should be going to school in my district and the other school district paid us money for them going here for almost 60 years. Now that money is tight, they told us we can keep the kids but they aren't paying the money. A state law was recently put on the books that says that they have to pay and that's what they are suing about.

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                • Gotmadskillzson
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                  • Apr 2008
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                  #23
                  Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                  If everybody enforced this law nationwide, it would be a hell of a lot of parents in jail. Because I know when I was a kid, damn near half the kids didn't even live in the district that they went to school in. Instead they were using their grand parents address to register. Hell some even went as far as using addresses of people they didn't even know and would just say the phone was disconnected.

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                  • Chrisksaint
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                    • Apr 2010
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                    #24
                    Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                    I used my grandma's address so I could go to a certain Elementary and then Middle School. However no one bothered to question it at the Elementary school since she was the P.E. teacher their and the Middle School just assumed that I legitly lived their I suppose.
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                    • snepp
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                      • Apr 2003
                      • 10007

                      #25
                      Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                      Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                      I used my grandma's address so I could go to a certain Elementary and then Middle School. However no one bothered to question it at the Elementary school since she was the P.E. teacher their and the Middle School just assumed that I legitly lived their I suppose.

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                      • Dice
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6627

                        #26
                        Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                        Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                        If everybody enforced this law nationwide, it would be a hell of a lot of parents in jail. Because I know when I was a kid, damn near half the kids didn't even live in the district that they went to school in. Instead they were using their grand parents address to register. Hell some even went as far as using addresses of people they didn't even know and would just say the phone was disconnected.
                        Chicago would have a gang of parents in jail.
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                        • Dice
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #27
                          Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                          Originally posted by NDAlum
                          Exactly. Schools also get money by their attendance rates.

                          We have truancy spots in our area to go around and pick up the kids who don't go to school and take them. Seriously

                          Bottom line: the media can twist this story any way they want.
                          Still doesn't justify the grand theft charge. YES, I understand the intricacies of federal funding for students. The school they were trying to put their kids into was a public school. The other school the mother did not want their kids to attend was also public school. And from my understanding, public schools are free to the public. So it's still puzzling to me on how can you steal $30,000 from a service that's free to the public?
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                          • p_rushing
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                            • Feb 2004
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                            #28
                            Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                            Originally posted by Dice
                            Still doesn't justify the grand theft charge. YES, I understand the intricacies of federal funding for students. The school they were trying to put their kids into was a public school. The other school the mother did not want their kids to attend was also public school. And from my understanding, public schools are free to the public. So it's still puzzling to me on how can you steal $30,000 from a service that's free to the public?
                            Public school isn't free, you pay taxes for it. Your county property taxes go towards schools in your county/district. She didn't live in that district, so she wasn't paying taxes for that school. She was living in another district, so she wasn't paying those taxes, and her district could have less taxes or even 0. $30,000 for 2 kids for 2 years is really a discount for what the taxes could be.

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                            • Segagendude
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              #29
                              Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                              She got the idea from The Simpsons........

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                              • Dice
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #30
                                Re: Mom jailed for enrolling kids in wrong school district

                                Originally posted by p_rushing
                                Public school isn't free, you pay taxes for it. Your county property taxes go towards schools in your county/district. She didn't live in that district, so she wasn't paying taxes for that school. She was living in another district, so she wasn't paying those taxes, and her district could have less taxes or even 0. $30,000 for 2 kids for 2 years is really a discount for what the taxes could be.
                                I understand the statement of 'Education is not free'. I get that. But the SERVICE is at no up front cost. And plus, the service is a non-profit service. So even though the service is already paid for, it's still free to the PUBLIC. What you are pointing to is mainly Tax Fraud or Tax Avoidance. Legally, they can charge her and her father for that. BUT they didn't steal $30,000 from anybody. So I'm still not on board with the grand theft charge.
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