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  • SPTO
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    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #31
    Re: What is this world coming to?

    While I agree with Scott that this has always happened but probably not at the frequency that we see it today. One other thing is i've noticed that things like beatings and such are often videotaped and then posted online. What the hell kind of behavior is that? Don't people want to help others. If you don't want to physically get involved then call the cops or something.

    I think that's a great illustration of what desensitization can do to a society.
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    • 55
      Banned
      • Mar 2006
      • 20857

      #32
      Re: What is this world coming to?

      The person who videotaped the crime was in on it himself. That's why they posted it with the watermark of their rap group/label or whatever it was. That's how the perpetrators were tracked down, by their own ineptitude.

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      • EnigmaNemesis
        Animal Liberation
        • Apr 2006
        • 12216

        #33
        Re: What is this world coming to?

        Originally posted by 55
        The person who videotaped the crime was in on it himself. That's why they posted it with the watermark of their rap group/label or whatever it was. That's how the perpetrators were tracked down, by their own ineptitude.
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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #34
          Re: What is this world coming to?

          Originally posted by 55
          What difference does it make? They went out to a bar for a beer and to hang out. What's the big deal about that? I go out to bars 2-3 nights a week and almost always stay there until they close, which here in Cleveland is at 2:30 am. So do millions of people every week and this type of attack is not normal behavior.

          The neighborhood where I do my radio show is absolutely atrocious in terms of crime as well and my show is on from 1-5 am. We've had several cars broken into and/or stolen from the radio station's lot and surrounding areas alone in the last year even though it's well know that we have surveillance cameras. I'm a pretty big guy, but I know I'm not Bruce Lee and can't take on seven dudes so that's why I have my CCW and always carry at night. They might beat me up and get my wallet, but not before I put a hole in one of them.
          Makes a big difference in certain areas.. shoot and normal or not normal, its definitely not as rare as you think (not the recording)

          I went through Jr high school with guys getting jumped over nfl starter jackets.. depending on where you are and what time... you'd be surprised what you see

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          • NDAlum
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            • Jun 2010
            • 11453

            #35
            Re: What is this world coming to?

            I work in an area like that. There are fights every day after school and we have to break them up. It's just disgusting that environments like that exist. It seems so uncivilized and barbaric.

            How do people even get like that?
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            • EnigmaNemesis
              Animal Liberation
              • Apr 2006
              • 12216

              #36
              Re: What is this world coming to?

              Originally posted by 23
              Makes a big difference in certain areas.. shoot and normal or not normal, its definitely not as rare as you think (not the recording)

              I went through Jr high school with guys getting jumped over nfl starter jackets.. depending on where you are and what time... you'd be surprised what you see
              I think what he was trying to say is, people should be allowed to walk down the street at 1AM and not have to deal with this, and not be vilified as if they were in the wrong, and "should have known".

              And yes, I know exactly what you meant. I watched a schoolmate get gunned down on the front steps one morning in a drive by back in the day when gang tensions were high.

              Ever since that day, I was inspired to get my permit once I was legal age to do so.
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              • 55
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 20857

                #37
                Re: What is this world coming to?

                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                I think what he was trying to say is, people should be allowed to walk down the street at 1AM and not have to deal with this, and not be vilified as if they were in the wrong, and "should have known".
                Pretty much exactly what I meant. I'm out during those hours all the time and the vast majority of people that are also out aren't looking for trouble.

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                • Lintyfresh85
                  Where have I been?
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 17492

                  #38
                  Re: What is this world coming to?

                  As for the area where the guys were jumped... it's not that bad of a spot... and that's what scary.

                  You have to keep your eyes open at all times.
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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #39
                    Re: What is this world coming to?

                    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                    I think what he was trying to say is, people should be allowed to walk down the street at 1AM and not have to deal with this, and not be vilified as if they were in the wrong, and "should have known".

                    And yes, I know exactly what you meant. I watched a schoolmate get gunned down on the front steps one morning in a drive by back in the day when gang tensions were high.

                    Ever since that day, I was inspired to get my permit once I was legal age to do so.

                    No doubt I agree... also its not about they should;ve known as much as it is, your awareness has to be much much higher because alot of crazies operate in some shady stuff late at night

                    That said man no one deserves to get beat, jumped or any of that stuff like that. Depending where you are you just have to know how to defend yourself just in case or just know how to fight.

                    I dont know if calling things uncivilized and barbaric is the right choice or words to use, but you can trace certain types of things back as far as peoples childhoods, how they were trained, and raised. etc...

                    Things happen man... more than anything without trying to blame society or someone's parent or whatever the case may be, those guys are grown men, and they will have to own up to their actions one day whether they want to or not.

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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #40
                      Re: What is this world coming to?

                      I grew up in Richmond California and this happen a lot and my dad grew up in Richmond California. My Grandpa grew up in a poor part of Frenso and that happen a lot too. My point is violence has always been apart of the world. I do think it is getting worst in some area's. Like parents killing kids and kids killing parents. That seems to be happening more. Scary times indeed. The thing that is wierd for me is when I see crimes done by kids here, they will most likely be in my class the next day. Some get charge as adult too. Just sad, but that is the world.

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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #41
                        Re: What is this world coming to?

                        I will just say one more thing. The older I get the less I want to go out at mid night. It is crazy world. Always has been, but bad guys like to cause trouble at night.

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                        • brett the jet favre
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                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1938

                          #42
                          Re: What is this world coming to?

                          Originally posted by 55
                          What difference does it make? They went out to a bar for a beer and to hang out. What's the big deal about that? I go out to bars 2-3 nights a week and almost always stay there until they close, which here in Cleveland is at 2:30 am. So do millions of people every week and this type of attack is not normal behavior.

                          The neighborhood where I do my radio show is absolutely atrocious in terms of crime as well and my show is on from 1-5 am. We've had several cars broken into and/or stolen from the radio station's lot and surrounding areas alone in the last year even though it's well know that we have surveillance cameras. I'm a pretty big guy, but I know I'm not Bruce Lee and can't take on seven dudes so that's why I have my CCW and always carry at night. They might beat me up and get my wallet, but not before I put a hole in one of them.


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                          • LingeringRegime
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                            • Jun 2007
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                            #43
                            Re: What is this world coming to?

                            Originally posted by Scottdau
                            I will just say one more thing. The older I get the less I want to go out at mid night. It is crazy world. Always has been, but bad guys like to cause trouble at night.
                            Yeah, I don't like to be out late for that very reason. Nothing good happens after midnight.

                            As for the video, it's a shame. The answer is getting a license for carrying a concealed weapon, but even if you use it you will probably go to jail for life. Things like that piss me off to no end, people who commit hate crimes deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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                            • 55
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 20857

                              #44
                              Re: What is this world coming to?

                              Go to jail for life for using a legal concealed weapon in self defense?

                              If you truly shoot someone in self defense you won't serve a single night in jail.

                              Here are a multitude of examples:

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                              • Jackdog
                                Wolverine Soldier
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 7719

                                #45
                                Re: What is this world coming to?

                                I never leave home without it.

                                This should be charged as a hate crime.
                                Last edited by Jackdog; 02-03-2011, 09:33 AM.
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