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  • CMH
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    • Oct 2002
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    #1

    Thoughts on being a teacher...

    I've been in a bit of a standstill and thought I bring this up to the OS brotherhood.

    I've been working for a production company for almost 5 years now, but am seeing most of the reason why I started at the position dissolving as the company moves in a new direction. While I love being a fundraiser (which is where our focus has turned), it's not what I wanted to do.

    I'm finding my schedule beginning to tighten. I work late nights during event season and have been finding that ramp up as we work more and more events every year.

    Because of that, my boss (who thinks life's pleasure is to work - seriously, he says this all the time) has routinely been asking me why I'm leaving so early when I get out of work at 6 PM. It's becoming annoying. It's as if he's trying to scare me into staying later. Obviously, I have to when we work an event because events start at 7 PM, but on a regular work day?

    The point is, I'm burned out on this job and I'm trying to find a career.

    Some might know this, other don't, but working in film & television has been my goal. As I mentioned, one of the reasons I took this job was because my boss promised I'd be running a video production department. That hasn't happened. It's been the opposite as he now says it's a waste of time.

    I am currently working on my resume to apply for jobs at networks based in New York City, but am also considering teaching.

    The reasons are simple: Schedule.

    While working at a network would put me in position to work in television, I don't really know what the hours are like, I don't know for sure I even qualify for the positions I could apply, and I worry that I won't be able to do any writing or filming of my own if the schedule is intense.

    I see teaching and I'm thinking of summers off, a more relaxed schedule (in comparison to production which is ridiculous) and benefits (I get none currently).

    And yes, I know eventually I'd like to be in a position to write for a living, but it's not like you just walk into that type of job. I need both time and energy to do that on my own while I earn a steady paycheck.

    So, for you teachers, is there something I'm not seeing here? Are there things about teaching I should know about before I start to really consider it?

    I know I'm not certified, so I'd likely have to do the NYC Fellowship Program and see if I'm accepted. I know I'll have to go back to school to get certified. I'm still thinking even all that would give me more time in life so I can focus on my actual goals.

    And really, if writing doesn't work out (it's not easy), I can see myself wanting to step into administration positions for the Department of Education. I guess the idea of a career excites me.
    Last edited by CMH; 08-09-2012, 09:08 AM.
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  • DerkontheOS
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    • Jul 2009
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    #2
    Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

    My mom works for the school district around here and she loves the schedule... Summers off and holiday vacations.

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    • NDAlum
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      • Jun 2010
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      #3
      Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

      My girlfriend loves teaching but hates all the paperwork associated with it along with not getting compensated fairly. She teaches special needs children.

      This is her last year of teaching if everything else goes right on her road to becoming an occupational therapist.
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      • cjonesfan921
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        • Jan 2005
        • 20081

        #4
        Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

        I've looked in to getting the right certification in my state. I do have some interest in teaching, but it is also just to give myself some options. I don't want to be limited in what I am able to do.

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        • GAMEC0CK2002
          Stayin Alive
          • Aug 2002
          • 10384

          #5
          Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

          If you get in the right school district, with the right administration and half-way motivated student body you'll love it. The first year can be tough (they usually stick the new teacher with the rough ones) , but that's true of most jobs.

          The teaching part is easy once you get your routine down and lesson plans in place. The challenging part is motivating of unmotivated kids that have a sense of entitlement and/or no respect.

          You really can't beat the schedule though (on a 4 block -90min each system) 2hrs of your 7hr day is spent in planning and lunch.

          You learn tricks that make grading tests and quizzes easy. Scantron answer sheets are your best friend.

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          • CMH
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            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #6
            Originally posted by NDAlum
            My girlfriend loves teaching but hates all the paperwork associated with it along with not getting compensated fairly. She teaches special needs children.

            This is her last year of teaching if everything else goes right on her road to becoming an occupational therapist.
            Can you elaborate? The bad is what I'm interested in. I know the good but no one ever talks about the bad with exception to things like: I hate the kids!

            Well, kids suck. I already know that. But I've always been interested in hoping to positively influence a kid's life. I know it'll be hard but every job is hard.

            I deal with clients crying all day. All that changes is the age. It's all the same bs no matter where you go.

            But how much is this paperwork? What kind of paperwork?

            Anyone have comments about which age group is better, worse?

            By the way, I'd be interested in teaching English. Writing, you know. Only makes sense. And if I can try to teach these kids to be better writers/speakers, I'd win a miniature war against poor grammar.


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            • GAMEC0CK2002
              Stayin Alive
              • Aug 2002
              • 10384

              #7
              Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

              Originally posted by CMH
              Can you elaborate? The bad is what I'm interested in. I know the good but no one ever talks about the bad with exception to things like: I hate the kids!
              Meetings (focus group, entire staff, district, etc)
              Parents involvement (usually a lack of)
              Duty (morning, lunch, after school)
              Admin support (not dealing with trouble makers you send out)
              Lack of resources (depends on the school disrtict)

              Can only speak on my end, but there isn't a ton of paperwork besides lesson plans..obviously (office referrals, short-term and long-term goals for the year, peer evaluations..that's about it)

              It's really not that bad. It always irks me when I have to give up my planning period to cover for other teachers that are absent, but didn't arrange for a sub. How hard is it to call the sub. agency or go online? 2-3 min. max
              Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 08-09-2012, 11:13 AM.

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              • Knight165
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                • Feb 2003
                • 24964

                #8
                Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                Until they allow caning....I would look into swamp logging or something.

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                • Lieutenant Dan
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 5679

                  #9
                  Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                  My dad was a high school teacher for over 20 years, he retired sometime in the late 80's or early 90's.

                  What he loved: the teaching itself, most of the kids, schedule, benefits, summers off

                  What he loathed: some of the staff/administrators, HATED meetings and school beauracracy in general LOL, lazy kids.

                  He was over six feet with a strong presence and a Marine. Really, he had very little problems with kids being disrespectful. I know I was scared of him my whole kid and teen life.

                  For myself, I had interest in becoming a teacher but I could never pin down WHAT I wanted to teach. And I didn't want to teach at any level other than junior college which really limited me (I wanted to teach to people that wanted to be there). So, that never really went anywhere.

                  You should netflx/rent 'Mr Holland's Opus' too. Good movie about a musician who becomes a high school teacher to earn money while he writes his big 'opus'. Kinda cool to see what he goes through trying to reach the kids in his music classes, and gives you at least a little idea of why teaching is considered a noble profession. There is often some sacrifice that goes with it.

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                  • Blzer
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42515

                    #10
                    Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                    I was a computer science major in college, intent on becoming a video game designer. While looking for jobs last summer, I wanted to do substitute teaching as a fallback. It worked well with being able to coach softball and still having weekends off.

                    Long story short, I ended up substitute teaching high school every school day last year. The students loved me, and I loved them. I've tutored in the past, I've coached forever... this just felt right and natural. I'm still fresh out of school, so I pretty much know how to solve everything as well, so helping them was no problem.

                    I am now starting a teaching credential program next month, and want to become a HS math teacher. One reason I really want to, as you said, is because of the schedule. Get out by 3:00 (or so), work weekdays only, and get a summer break and winter break.

                    There is very, very little downside if you like teaching and you like kids. This was meant for me.
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                    • NDAlum
                      ND
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #11
                      Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                      From what I hear from my girlfriend...

                      1) It would be better if teachers were paid hourly instead of salaried. I never take home work and if I work late I get paid extra. That does not exist for teachers! She is usually drowning in paperwork. Keep in mind that she is an EC teacher which has more paperwork.

                      2) Meetings.
                      - School Improvement Team
                      - EC chair meetings
                      - Parent/teacher conferences
                      - School events
                      - Physical fitness initiatives

                      There are too many meetings. She doesn't get compensated for these meetings which she doesn't get much out of.

                      I think to sum it up: underappreciated

                      She works so HARD and does a GREAT job only to have more responsibility placed on your shoulders.

                      What she loves: time in the classroom with her kids (K-5)
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                      • tWoSour
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                        • Aug 2006
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                        #12
                        Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                        I don't have anything to say about teaching, but I can talk on the tv network aspect. I'm basing this off the fact that you said network, not another production complany.

                        I work for an ABC affiliate somewhere in New England (I'm keeping it slightly vague), and I work in the production department (currently training to become a director). At my station, the production shifts are either 4:30am-1:30pm or 3:30pm-12:30am. I work the nightside shift (3:30-12:30), and I love it. I found a job that allows to me to sleep in everyday, and work all holidays (remember, news works everyday....Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc).

                        Those shifts aren't for everyone, and some people that I work with don't like them. If you go the news route, good luck. I bet working news in NYC would be a blast (but not for me, I hate big cities)

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                        • NYJets
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #13
                          Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                          I'm working on becoming a teacher. Spent the last year interning in a school and getting my masters. Doing my student teaching next.

                          Negatives I think can be the emphasis on standardized tests can really stop creativity and teaching for understanding. Writing lesson plans can suck. And like mentioned, there's a lot of stuff you have to do outside of the actual teaching.

                          But it really depends what district your in. Like some districts you have to deal with parents who won't get involved at all, the one I've worked in you deal with crazy parents who are way too involved.
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                          • CMH
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                            Thanks guys. A lot of this is helpful.

                            A friend of mine who is a teacher suggested I try substituting to see how I feel about it.

                            That's an option, but if I make that move, I'm making a very serious move. In order for me to substitute, I'd need to leave my job. There is simply no time at my current position to substitute.


                            Originally posted by tWoSour
                            I don't have anything to say about teaching, but I can talk on the tv network aspect. I'm basing this off the fact that you said network, not another production complany.

                            I work for an ABC affiliate somewhere in New England (I'm keeping it slightly vague), and I work in the production department (currently training to become a director). At my station, the production shifts are either 4:30am-1:30pm or 3:30pm-12:30am. I work the nightside shift (3:30-12:30), and I love it. I found a job that allows to me to sleep in everyday, and work all holidays (remember, news works everyday....Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc).

                            Those shifts aren't for everyone, and some people that I work with don't like them. If you go the news route, good luck. I bet working news in NYC would be a blast (but not for me, I hate big cities)
                            When I say network, I mean something like Viacom and working for a network like Nickelodeon or Comedy Central.

                            I have interest in being involved in anything that covers on-air content. But, I wonder if I really really want to do that. Maybe I'm just enamored by the idea of saying I work for Nickelodeon. However, will I really enjoy doing all the production work?

                            I can't say. I can say that working on film sets and events for both independent films and my current position has become a chore for me. I just don't have the passion for it anymore. I feel like it controls too much of me and doesn't give me the space to do my own thing.

                            One concern with teaching is bringing the work home. I know I'll have to set up lesson plans, grade exams/papers, things like that. I'm not excited about that part. I rather have a position that doesn't bring work home. But, production is an all-the-time thing. I'm basically on-call every moment because if something goes wrong at an event I'm not working or a client needs something to look over, I'm the one that needs to resolve the issue.

                            There's no such thing as vacation when you need to log-in every day to do work even when you're staring at a beach.
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                            • CMH
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #15
                              Re: Thoughts on being a teacher...

                              Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                              Meetings (focus group, entire staff, district, etc)
                              Parents involvement (usually a lack of)
                              Duty (morning, lunch, after school)
                              Admin support (not dealing with trouble makers you send out)
                              Lack of resources (depends on the school disrtict)
                              The meetings are probably the only thing that I'd need to get comfortable with.

                              Obviously, I know parents can be a nightmare (depending on the parent) and that's not easy. I already know the lack of resources story.

                              How often do you have meetings?
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                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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